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Fri Dec 28, 2012, 12:30 AM

President Obama is destroying the GOP..


and the problem is?


Krauthammer, however, seized on the comments by LaTourette, arguing that the “civil war” that has broken out among Republicans is bad for the party, and is exactly what President Obama wanted to create. He said that, politically, Obama “has won.”

“I argued a month ago that from the president’s perspective this was never about fiscal issues or economic issues. … He had one objective. He came off of winning election but he still had a recalcitrant House. He wants a four years where he can have his own agenda that he can enact. It would be stopped by the House, the same way the House stopped it in the last two years,” said Krauthammer.

“What to do? To destroy the Republicans, to fracture them and to create a civil war in the House, which he has done. … This was extremely clever tactically on his part. (He insisted) that the one thing they had to agree to was an increase in tax rates. If he was only interested in the budget, in fiscally balancing it, he would have said, ‘I don’t care how you get the money, you could do it through exemptions and deductions.’ But he insisted on rates, not because it was an economic issue, but because it was a way that you’d have the House divided, you’d have them calling each other ‘chuckleheads,’ and you’d have a Speaker who if not deposed, is extremely weakened. And this sets him up for the (next) two years, the four years in which he can have his way over Republicans.

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Reply President Obama is destroying the GOP.. (Original post)
HipChick Dec 2012 OP
mindwalker_i Dec 2012 #1
unblock Dec 2012 #2
Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #6
mykpart Dec 2012 #3
Tx4obama Dec 2012 #4
DevonRex Dec 2012 #5
Tarheel_Dem Dec 2012 #8
DevonRex Dec 2012 #10
TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #7
Barack_America Dec 2012 #15
Fridays Child Dec 2012 #9
AmBlue Dec 2012 #14
Fridays Child Dec 2012 #16
ReRe Dec 2012 #11
hfojvt Dec 2012 #12
eShirl Dec 2012 #13
malaise Dec 2012 #17

Response to HipChick (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 12:37 AM

1. Taking personal responsibility again, I see

Between holding the economy hostage, dictating terms to vaginas, pledging allegiance to some scruffy-looking nerfherder giving hand jobs to the rich, they need to be destroyed. They're doing it to themselves and doing a damn fine job.

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Response to HipChick (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 12:40 AM

2. actually, the gerrymandering had a lot to do with it, as did the american voters.

the gerrymandering meant that many republicans are now in safe, partisan republican districts (having corralled the democrats into a small number of extremely safe democratic districts).

so they're no longer worried about losing to a democrat, they're now only worried about losing to another republican in the primary. so they're hell-bent on being extreme, regardless of what's in the nation's interest.


this puts them at odds with the rest of the republicans, who need a few democratic votes to get re-elected, or who actually have greater ambitions and need to have a more moderate track record.

this may be unintended consequences, but they did it to themselves quite by design.

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Response to unblock (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 12:47 AM

6. This is very true.

I've been saying for quite some time gerrymandering has been abused to the point it now poses a dangerous to our country.

I know, I know, neither side want's to eliminate gerrymandering. When you get the lucky draw to be the party in power after a census, the last thing you want to do is lose that delicious political edge. Well, look where that's gotten our country. We now have one party which has padded their chances to the point they can no longer govern. They're being held hostage by the extremest in their party who have absolutely no reason to compromise. The entire nation is suffering as a consequence. That's not even mentioning the people who were gerrymandered out of fair representation. Which no one really seems to care about.

Something needs to be done about gerrymandering. It's no longer a viable political tool as it's always been viewed as in the past.

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Response to HipChick (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 12:40 AM

3. Good for him!

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Response to HipChick (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 12:47 AM

5. Do you think

many people here will give Obama any credit for that?

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Response to DevonRex (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:06 AM

8. Nope. See below.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:16 AM

10. Well

that sure as hell didn't take long, did it?

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Response to HipChick (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 12:49 AM

7. I don't see tactical genius but rather minimal sanity.

Get the rates first if the choice is between loopholes and rates.

Loopholes open and close with little fanfare all the time. Rates are the tough row to hoe.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:24 PM

15. It's not exactly breaking news that tax hikes are the Republican's kryptonite.

And it doesn't exactly take a genius to realize that teabaggers would rather self-destruct than vote for tax increases. After all, the Tea Party was created by the 1% to obstruct Congress and oppose anything that would cut into the 1%'s profits.

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Response to HipChick (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:07 AM

9. LaTourette blames the teabaggers.

Repukes invited the "chuckleheads," as LaTourette calls them, to the party and they've been feasting on their hosts like a bad case of crabs, ever since. Now, Krauthammer is giving cover to the parasites so that they keep on sucking the lifeblood out of those 'pukes, right up the whole lot of them turns completely white and dies.

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Response to Fridays Child (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:17 PM

14. Really! And why do you suppose...

...they don't blame the 'baggers?? Even when going down in flames, they'd rather blame Obama. Stupid move. I think if they'd find the balls to throw the 'baggers out they might be able to survive as a party.

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Response to AmBlue (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 04:05 PM

16. Not sure I understand your response.

Your anger seems misdirected. LaTourette is a Congressional Repuke, correct? It's the media that continues to provoke and stoke the baggers. Without manufactured conflict (which is the media's brand) government might conceivably be more functional.

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Response to HipChick (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:42 AM

11. It's not good...

... to be bad. They are reaping what they sowed. Too bad, so sad. Karma coming down on 'em.
Tsk. Tsk. Tsk.

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Response to HipChick (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:44 AM

12. well we do not really need a Republican Party

now that Democrats have taken over the job of passing tax cuts for the rich.

Obama is gonna get his way though, and force those Republicans to pass - massive tax cuts for the rich.

What a victory for us that will be

I can hardly wait then until Obama forces them to accept the chained CPI and the Keystone Pipeline.

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Response to HipChick (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 04:08 AM

13. He campaigned on raising taxes on the rich, and got re-elected.

So I guess it's the American People who are destroying the everything-before-country (a.k.a. "America Last") GOP.

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Response to HipChick (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 04:07 PM

17. I didn't see your thread

This is fall down funny!!!

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