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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:02 PM

octoberlib (1,671 posts)

Scott Brown: Obama Has Sent Senate Republicans A Fiscal Cliff Proposal

President Barack Obama reached out and provided Senate Republicans with another offer to avert the so-called fiscal cliff, Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown wrote on his Facebook page.

"I'm rushing to get on plane and thought I would keep you all informed," Brown wrote.
Meanwhile, CNN's Dana Bash reported that Obama told Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell that he would send him a "scaled-back" offer that would likely erase some, but not all, of the tax hikes scheduled to hit beginning Jan. 2.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/fiscal-cliff-obama-scott-brown-offer-proposal-taxes-cuts-spending-2012-12#ixzz2GHCTnoSl

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Scott Brown: Obama Has Sent Senate Republicans A Fiscal Cliff Proposal (Original post)	octoberlib	Dec 2012	OP
BULLSHIT.	Panasonic	Dec 2012	#1
Boehner has abdicated the House responsibility, apparently, want the Senate to send him one.	pinto	Dec 2012	#4
Just heard same on MSNBC.	Myrina	Dec 2012	#5
only the final bill needs to be passed first by the house.	unblock	Dec 2012	#7
They wont accept anything he proposes. Ever.	sellitman	Dec 2012	#2
He hasn't caved yet?	AnotherMcIntosh	Dec 2012	#3
... wait a couple hours, it's comin' ....	Myrina	Dec 2012	#6
Obama has sent Brown a lifeline to the senate. brown shouldnt act ungrateful n t	msongs	Dec 2012	#8
It won't matter. The teabagger controlled House will not work with any proposals offered	AlinPA	Dec 2012	#9
I thought the senate	xxqqqzme	Dec 2012	#10
Is this the same guy who has	xxqqqzme	Dec 2012	#11
How sad when a	ProSense	Dec 2012	#12
NBC: NO PROPOSAL sent to Senate...	brooklynite	Dec 2012	#13
But it's so much MORE fun to believe everything the media tells us! nt.	OldDem2012	Dec 2012	#17
Massachussetts	John2	Dec 2012	#14
No.	Mass	Dec 2012	#16
And Scott Brown is credible? Since when...	Mass	Dec 2012	#15

Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:04 PM

Panasonic (2,921 posts)

1. BULLSHIT.

As far as I know, no proposal was made, and it has to be done through the House first.

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:11 PM

pinto (97,891 posts)

4. Boehner has abdicated the House responsibility, apparently, want the Senate to send him one.

No clue to Brown's comment. I tend to wait for the principals involved to make the definitive statement.

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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:18 PM

Myrina (8,915 posts)

5. Just heard same on MSNBC.

n/t

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:27 PM

unblock (23,755 posts)

7. only the final bill needs to be passed first by the house.

most major bills get passed in slightly different forms, neither of which ever becomes law. then a reconciliation committee gets together to hammer out an agreement that will pass both houses. THAT version of the bill, if it's a revenue bill, must pass the house first. earlier versions never become law anyway, so they can start in either house.

in most cases it's really it's just a formality.

if the house were to pass (not likely) the bill the senate already passed or perhaps some future revenut bill, even if in the exact same form (again, unlikely), then it wouldn't become law until the senate passed it AGAIN, after the house passed it first (and then the president must sign it, of course, or have his veto overridden). but again, this is usually just a formality as if the senate already passed it, they're quite likely to pass it again.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:06 PM

sellitman (9,305 posts)

2. They wont accept anything he proposes. Ever.

Haven't the American people figured this out yet?

oh wait....

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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:09 PM

AnotherMcIntosh (7,520 posts)

3. He hasn't caved yet?

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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:18 PM

Myrina (8,915 posts)

6. ... wait a couple hours, it's comin' ....

n/t

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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:31 PM

msongs (30,485 posts)

8. Obama has sent Brown a lifeline to the senate. brown shouldnt act ungrateful n t

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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:35 PM

AlinPA (13,708 posts)

9. It won't matter. The teabagger controlled House will not work with any proposals offered

by the President.

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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:36 PM

xxqqqzme (13,429 posts)

10. I thought the senate

passed a bill last summer that would avert all this drama and the house has it gathering dust & cobwebs.

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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:39 PM

xxqqqzme (13,429 posts)

11. Is this the same guy who has

met with 'kings and queens'?

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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:39 PM

ProSense (98,145 posts)

12. How sad when a

tweet from soon-to-be ex-Senator Scott Brown is news.

GOP Source: ‘We’re Expecting Democrats To Finally Act’ On Cliff

President Obama is expected to send congressional leaders a scaled-back proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff, according to CNN and Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA).

"While we're expecting Democrats to finally act, I don't have a specific timeframe," a GOP source familiar with the matter told TPM.

Update: TPM is told separately that reports about an impending White House offer to Capitol Hill are not accurate, or at best an exaggerated read-out of GOP discussions with President Obama.

Update II: An aide to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) also tells TPM the reports are "not true."

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/gop-source-were-expecting-democrats-to-finally-act

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:46 PM

brooklynite (12,832 posts)

13. NBC: NO PROPOSAL sent to Senate...

Last edited Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:48 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

Mike O'Brien ‏@mpoindc
Well then: Senate Dems assert to @KellyO that reports of a new WH proposal on the fiscal cliff are incorrect. "We are nowhere."

Mike O'Brien ‏@mpoindc
And a sr. admin official to @PeterAlexander: "There is no proposal being sent up today. Scott Brown is wrong."

Mike O'Brien ‏@mpoindc
Man, Scott Brown sure is gonna be confused when his plane lands.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 02:29 PM

OldDem2012 (3,526 posts)

17. But it's so much MORE fun to believe everything the media tells us! nt.

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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 02:08 PM

John2 (1,717 posts)

14. Massachussetts

is going to hire this idiot again after firing him?

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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 02:27 PM

Mass (24,629 posts)

16. No.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 02:26 PM

Mass (24,629 posts)

15. And Scott Brown is credible? Since when...

Last edited Thu Dec 27, 2012, 02:28 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

The man who meets with kings and chiefs of state?

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