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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 09:31 AM

Teachers in Utah to get (required) concealed weapons training

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Gun group offers training for Utah teachers

PAUL FOY
Associated Press


SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Classroom teachers could stop school shootings by carrying concealed weapons, say gun-rights advocates who plan to offer the required training Thursday for 200 Utah teachers.

The Utah Shooting Sports Council said it would waive its $50 fee for concealed-weapons training for the teachers. Instruction featuring plastic guns is set to begin at noon Thursday inside a conference room at Maverick Center, a hockey arena in the Salt Lake City suburb of West Valley.

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Utah educators say they would ban guns if they could and have no way of knowing how many teachers are armed. Gun-rights advocates estimate that 1 percent of Utah teachers or 240 are licensed to carry concealed weapons. It's not known how many pack guns at school.

"It's a terrible idea," said Carol Lear, a chief lawyer for the Utah Office of Education, who argues teachers could be overpowered for their guns or misfire or cause an accidental shooting. "It's a horrible, terrible, no-good, rotten idea."

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 09:35 AM

1. The training is required to get a CCL, there is no requirement to carry concealed in Utah schools.

Just in case anyone else found the story confusing.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 09:52 AM

2. It's just dumb enough to look attractive to the Obama-Duncan DOE:

>>>"It's a terrible idea," said Carol Lear, a chief lawyer for the Utah Office of Education, who argues teachers could be overpowered for their guns or misfire or cause an accidental shooting. "It's a horrible, terrible, no-good, rotten idea." >>>>

Maybe they can cut a multi-billion dollar deal w. a contractor like Pearson or the Gates-funded Danielson Group to produce elaborate teacher gun-handling evaluation rubrics.

$$$Goodies for everyone!

Yay.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:51 AM

3. If this is a one day class I would say it is a waste of time. IMO

How long do their regular classes last?

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:06 AM

6. Depends on the instructor...

However, most classes are a day or less.

Question; How long is the CCW/CPL course?
Answer; CCW/CPL classes are a one day class, usually between 8-9 hours.

Source: http://www.americanfirearmstraining.com/FAQ.html (In Detroit)

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:52 AM

4. Knowledge is EVIL!

 

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:55 AM

5. is anyone going to teach gun retention to the same teachers?

What happens when two or three middle or high schoolers wrestle and take the teacher's gun away? I'm giving it 6 months after the first teachers start packing.

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