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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:03 AM

Yes, George HW sent us to war, but he also....

Signed the Americans With Disabilities Act, signed the Clean Air Act, broke his pledge and raised taxes on the rich and, and was the only Southern Republican in the House to vote for the Civil Rights Act.

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RandySF Dec 2012 OP
burrowowl Dec 2012 #1
a la izquierda Dec 2012 #7
Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #2
moondust Dec 2012 #4
uppityperson Dec 2012 #3
JCMach1 Dec 2012 #5
a la izquierda Dec 2012 #8
orleans Dec 2012 #6

Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:05 AM

1. More than Raygun he was responsible for

Iran-Contra the killed 200,000 to 250,000 Guatemalan Indians, we could go on!

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Response to burrowowl (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 07:23 AM

7. No, no, no...

Listen, I'm all for slamming GHWB for his despicable Latin America actions. But Iran-Contra was Nicaragua, not Guatemala. Contras were counter revolutionaries, becuase the revolutionaries won in Nicaragua.
Guatemala, in 1986 (the year of the scandal), was starting to wind down- not done by any stretch, but calming down some.

Now, Reagan and GHWB were buddy-buddy with the Guatemalan military government, especially Efraín Ríos Montt...but Iran-Contra was a separate matter.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:12 AM

2. Went to war as part of an international coalition authorised by the UN...

following the Iraqi invasion of a sovereign state which was condemned by not just the US but the UK, France, China and the Soviet Union in a unanimous Security Council resolution. The first Gulf War was legitimate and waged for good reason (unlike the 2003 Iraq War).

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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 02:48 AM

4. "They didn't finish the job in Iraq."

I heard that for years afterward. Some people blamed GHWB for not ordering troops on into Baghdad to get Saddam as long as they were there. Of course that wasn't part of the coalition mandate but the hard-liners didn't care about no damn mandate! I suspected "finishing the job" was part of the reason GWB/Cheney wanted to invade Iraq in 2003; it had been eating at them for more than a decade.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:16 AM

3. He was the power behind Reagan and did so many bad things. Yes, it isn't black/white but shades of

grey and he is on the dark side.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 05:25 AM

5. Central American death squads

Had Bush Sr.s fingerprints all over them.

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Response to JCMach1 (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 07:24 AM

8. Yep.

Ask my students what I think of bush and Reagan's policies.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 05:38 AM

6. he also sired that fuckhead who stole two presidential elections and

well, we all know what happened then

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