5 Feminist Demands She Wants You to Ignore

[XemaSab]

Living in the 21st century means you will encounter more than a few "independent ladies" while you’re out on the prowl.

We're not talking about the stereotypical feminists here. The modern feminist can simply be a working woman who pays her own bills and doesn’t need a man in her life to be happy.

Enter you, the lucky guy who is thrilled at the prospect of a non-clingy girlfriend. Not so fast. While the notion of the sexy feminist isn’t completely false, you need to be aware of those pesky feminist demands that even the most independent of women is expecting you to ignore. Why don't women just tell you what they want, you ask? Silly rabbit, then they wouldn't be women!

Here's what you need to know.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/03/26/feminist-demands-wants-ignore/#ixzz1kJn1ZDjX

[cyberswede]

1. What is the purpose of this post?

I'm probably obtuse, but I really want to know why you posted this.

[XemaSab]

5. Because THERE ARE NO WORDS

Honestly, I was FLOORED by this.

[cyberswede]

8. I agree

I would have been happier if I hadn't clicked on the link. My own fault.

[polly7]

52. It's funny, actually.

Only because that kind of thinking is so bizarre ..... what era is that person from? No harm, no foul in pointing out the idiocy we're still faced with.

[mike_c]

2. first, I gotta say that the original article, at the link...

...is way better illustrated than your excerpt.

Second, um, well.... I haven't actually read the article yet, but I'll get back to you. Did I mention that the original article is well endowed ILLUSTRATED?

on edit-- OK, I read it. Takes about 40 seconds, LOL. Puff piece. I presume your point is that fox and feminism don't mix well?

[cyberswede]

6. yes...

...she has great big beautiful...EYES.

[mike_c]

39. LOL....

XemaSab's right-- the article is appalling.

[daleanime]

3. You want me to go to a Faux's newsite....

to find out what Feminists really want?

[Initech]

9. Yeah that's like asking Pat Robertson what defines bigotry.

[Ian David]

4. Thanks. I always take my advice on male-female relations from Fox "News." n/t

[Fuzz]

7. Can I get some popcorn?

[Angry Dragon]

11. Here

[Fuzz]

20. TYVM. Now back to our scheduled outrage programming.

[Fuzz]

49. Neat! A scolding! Am I grounded?

Sheesh, lighten up a bit. There was no giggling.

[Fuzz]

59. Right now you are very entertaining. Whatever evil you think I meant I assure you does not exist.

[Angry Dragon]

10. I get all my information about women from

Newt and Rush

[leeroysphitz]

17. How is that working out for you?

[Angry Dragon]

18. ...............

[CTyankee]

12. Some of these comments are certainly interesting! I learn new things about people!

XemaSab in right on, in my book. This article is meant to put down feminists. It's as plain as day. Why anyone on DU can't see that, I truly cannot fathom...

[Warren Stupidity]

29. I am allergic to 'links to false noise'.

So the OP is just a big 'wha?'

[CTyankee]

40. I am allergic to links of false noise, too. But not the noise you wish it to be....

sorry...Fail...

[Warren Stupidity]

70. I'm sure you made a devastating point there.

[lapislzi]

13. So. Much. Fail.

I need a shower after reading that piece of misogyny masquerading as "advice for men."

[cyberswede]

21. ...under the Health section, no less.

[Solly Mack]

14. Number 6: Don't play in traffic

[unblock]

15. the hyperlink shows they filed this story under "health".

which is as stupid as the substance of the article itself.

[DFab420]

16. Wow......really?

nice to see fox news is still a classy place.....

[MineralMan]

19. Uff da! Now there's a piece of crap of an article.

A sexist contradiction in every paragraph.

[d_r]

22. I honestly didn't know

that they were posting articles to the internet back in the early 70s. Anyway, I'm glad that you were able to find this, proves they were idiots back then, too.

[obamanut2012]

58. hahahahaha

[CTyankee]

41. Of course. Look at the reaction to my reaction!

Look at the reaction to my reaction and see what happens!

[CTyankee]

45. I AGREE with you. I can't understand what your problem is.

good lord, I am agreeing with everything you are saying except what you think my strange strategy is. I am at a loss to even understand it...what on earth are you talking about?

[CTyankee]

53. First of all, I am not a man. I am a 72 year old woman, mother of 2 women and 3 granddaughters.

I have a HUGE stake in the outcome of all this stuff.

I am very glad that XemaSAb posted this. She shined a light on what is "passable" stuff on the web these days. It is fine that she exposes what she did as garbage. I have seen a lot of garbage over the years and this is just another manifestation.

Yes, I want it to stop now. ENOUGH!

[Texasgal]

57. Disgusting

and very sad about the current state of DU3 sometimes.

[Arctic Dave]

27. LOL, niiiice. Nt

[Blue_Tires]

28. Fox lifted it from AskMen.com

Non-fox link...Wow -- Supposedly written by a woman as well?!?

http://www.askmen.com/dating/heidi_300/347_feminist-demands-she-wants-you-to-ignore.html

[redqueen]

30. You're surprised by that?

The patriarchy is extremely well established, and the vast majority of women grow up internalizing all its messages.

[stevenleser]

67. Assuming they arent intentionally capitalizing on it.

THere are many right wing women pundits who do just that. They know how misogynistic right wing men feel about feminist women and they tell them exactly what they want to hear and get paid big bucks for it.

[LadyHawkAZ]

31. And once you've got ignoring THOSE down pat

Faux News will give you a handy guide on how she really doesn't mean "No" and "Stop!". (Ads on this page will be 100% attorney's offices)

[CTyankee]

47. then you shouldn't go after me, your ally in all of this!

I have been a feminist for more than 40 years. I am old. I have 3 granddaughters. I am worried sick about their future. I have fought, in my professional life (I am retired) to protect reproductive rights) when I worked for Planned Parenthood of CT.

You attack me. Look what you are doing...

[DisgustipatedinCA]

54. seabeyond: this is a pattern.

Like CTYankee, I think I know where you're coming from, and I think we have broad agreement between us. But, there's often a generalization about "men" or "DU men" that makes some of us feel like we're being accused of something without cause. And before you can even say "if you didn't say anything wrong, then I'm not addressing you", please understand that this is the big problem with generalization. It still feels like an accusation, despite yours and others' protests to the contrary. Over and over at DU, the following pattern can be observed:
1) a thread involving feminism is started,
2) a generalization is made about "men", or about "DU men"
3) the generalization is often tightened up ("I didn't mean you", or "if you're not displaying the behaviors I'm talking about, then this doesn't apply to you", and so on).
4) people like me say to themselves, 'hey, why is that person talking about men in general? I'm a man, and I'm not like what's being described', and so on.

It's a simple matter of human nature to start to feel bad, put out, when an accusation is floated in your general direction, and you're very aware that the accusation does not correctly describe you. If the shoe were on the other foot, I'm certain that you would feel precisely the same.

Now let's size this appropriately. This is not going to ruin my day, and it's not going to make me write a big flameout of a goodbye letter to DU. But this is a repeated pattern that makes life on DU just a little less enjoyable, a little less fulfilling. I'd ask you to consider that from this other point of view, and act in accordance with your conscience. Thank you.

One final point: you're not the only person who has asked the OP why he posted this article. It's a perfectly valid article to post, not because it contains words to live by, but because it's always, always useful to check the temperature of the GOP and of the GOP voting public. It's not pretty, and as others have said in other threads, GOP voters are on the very cusp of being openly racist. I contend it's also very useful to know what these dolts are doing/thinking when it comes to women's issues. Conversely, although no one came right out and said this thread should be locked, the inference was there. That's too much of a chill for my comfort--let's keep the thread, and see where the conversation goes.

Thanks.

[obamanut2012]

63. I believe Xemasab is a female

[DisgustipatedinCA]

66. Thank you

My mistake.

[obamanut2012]

68. No problem

Some posters might not realize that.

[redqueen]

33. Aw, but she's only saying that cause she's worried about looking like a slut,

don'tcha know.

If you don't take advantage of her, she won't think you're a real man, and will put you in the friend zone! (Cause ladies are always finding men attractive and being interested in them, and then later deciding that they're just not manly enough to sleep with.)

/PUA asshole

[LadyHawkAZ]

42. It does help perpetuate a common myth

that women are helpless, rather stupid, easily dominated creatures that don't really know what they want and can't think for themselves, so someone else has to think for them. This is where that idea leads, and people believe it.

This is why some of your ideals scare the hell out of me, no matter how well intentioned they are. Someone judged not capable of saying yes will eventually be unable to say no.

[eShirl]

38. It's like an MSM article from the early-mid 70s.

[LeftyMom]

48. Fox News said "playa" and "benjamins" in an article?

Gender politics completely aside, somebody really, really doesn't know their own demographic.

[TwilightGardener]

55. Helping carry heavy bags or complimenting a partner on his or her looks is something

both genders appreciate. But taking over decision-making? Uh, no. Unless we've already worked that out in our relationship, you're not deciding where we're going to go or what we're going to do without my input.

[ecstatic]

56. I actually liked the article

It might be labeled wrong or in a controversial way, but a lot of the younger guys (at least around here) don't seem to understand some of the points made. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/02/28/why-are-men-angry-manning-up-author-kay-hymowitz-explains.html

[David__77]

69. Wow that author is really antimale

What? She wants men as unthinking work units? How fulfilling... Men aren't adolescent they're redefining adulthood for the better

[joshcryer]

65. Oh no, what have you done?

OK, I can admit, I don't see anything wrong with offering to help someone with packages or bags, either male or female, mind you, but if someone seems like they're expending more effort than necessary, I always offer to help, and I'm as anti-social as they come. Just something programmed into me from my upbringing. But it certainly isn't a "help poor weak women" thing, it can be men, women, young or old. If they seem like they need help, I offer, so it doesn't really apply to this particular article, just something that caught my eye.