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Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:26 PM

It is, indeed, a long shot, but it is possible Nancy Pelosi could be the next Speaker of the House.

Election as Speaker is a very simple majority affair. Each party puts up a candidate and the members vote. There are four possibilities for each voting member:

1. Vote for your party's candidate.

2. Vote "present"

3. Vote for the other party's candidate.

4. Abstain

I'm sure any of us can play out the possibilities and permutations. If more than one, maybe two, repubicans does other than number 1, the shit will be bouncing off the fan blades and anything becomes possible.

Including Speaker Pelosi.

Which would be delicious.

And cause heads to explode.

Lots of heads.

Exploding.





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Reply It is, indeed, a long shot, but it is possible Nancy Pelosi could be the next Speaker of the House. (Original post)
Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 OP
Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #1
Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #3
Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #13
Volaris Dec 2012 #11
Coyotl Dec 2012 #2
sabbat hunter Dec 2012 #4
Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #5
MADem Dec 2012 #7
RomneyLies Dec 2012 #6
Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #8
PennsylvaniaMatt Dec 2012 #9
LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #10
PennsylvaniaMatt Dec 2012 #12
salin Dec 2012 #14

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:28 PM

1. They couldn't be that foolish could they?

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:31 PM

3. Given their strife and current internal acrimony, it is more possible than in a long time.

Again, it is, indeed, a long shot. But not impossible.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:23 PM

13. It would be so perfect!

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:06 PM

11. I can't imagine..but wouldn't that be some sweet icing on the General Election cake?

The GOP would be a National laughing stock, and all that bluster about the House remaining in GOP hands as a counter to Obama'a second term would just serve to embarrass them all the more.

And yes, there would be some 'sploded head parts on the walls.

(SPEAKER Pelosi ((AGAIN)), god that would ROCK. And, as an added bonus, it looks like Reid is running out of time to decide NOT to do fillibuster reform over in the Senate )

ON EDIT: Apperently, it's more possible than we think, given THIS:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022075883

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:29 PM

2. FAIL.

But, if you can turn a dozen of them into Dems in the next few weeks

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:31 PM

4. or it could even be

a non member of the house. There is nothing encoded in law that requires the speaker to be a member of the house. But I believe there is about much of a chance of that as there is of Pelosi becoming Speaker again in the upcoming session of congress.

More likely Boehner will become speaker again either because his party backs him or a combination of GOP and Democrats vote for him to be speaker over other candidates (a weak speaker that does not have the backing of their own party could play in to the Democratic party's hands)

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Response to sabbat hunter (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:33 PM

5. All true.

As I said, it is all a long shot . . . . . butcha nevah know.

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Response to sabbat hunter (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:41 PM

7. Democrats vote for him? The party leaders are chosen from within their own caucus.

It's not a free-for-all where Dems might vote for a Republican because there are two in the running and one is jerkier than the other. Each party puts forward one leader, and the party with the most seats in the body wins the day. Any Democrat who didn't vote for the Dem candidate despite a certainty that they wouldn't prevail would be targeted for a primary.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_picks_the_speaker_of_the_house

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:34 PM

6. It takes a simple majority of 218 votes

 

I doubt you'll flip any Republicans to Pelosi, but it's sitll possible.

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:46 PM

8. What I see as more likely are shenanigans in their party

An upstart candidate, abstentions, that sort of thing.

Like maybe the teabaggers revolting and voting for . . . . I dunno . . . . Bachmann.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 09:01 PM

9. It is not out of the realm of possibilities.

If all 201 Democrat Representatives vote for Nancy Pelosi, and more than 34 Republicans either abstain from voting or vote "Present", then might very well be looking at Speaker Pelosi!

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Response to PennsylvaniaMatt (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 09:15 PM

10. Wouldn't need 34 Republicans.

Democrats could get their Speaker with a simple majority of 218 votes. So that would be 17 Republicans or whatever the majority of those present during the vote.

Personally, I don't see that flying.

Anybody other than Boehner as Speaker from the R side would be suicide for them. I don't know of any Republican that has more maturity than Boehner. That just means that the quality in their party is so low.

The problem for the Republicans is that Teabaggers and others refusing to consider proposals they are weakening the ability of Boehner to be an effective Speaker. Starting the day he is re-elected they should refer him as the Lame Duck Speaker. And do some quacking within earshot of him or other Republicans.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:10 PM

12. You're Right - I just don't see any Republican voting directly FOR Pelosi

However, with the number of upset right-wingers growing by the weeks, it wouldn't really surprise me if they abstain from voting or vote Present! Nothing surprises me with this group of people!

Think about what a kick in the teeth THAT would be to Boehner! That the far-right would rather not vote for him and see Pelosi back as Speaker!

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:30 PM

14. as a youngster, I sat with a group of like minded folks on the eve of the 84 election

and we drew up all sorts of scenarios about how Mondale could win.

While I appreciate the sentiment and relish of your post - it reminds me of that night many years ago - when our hopes dimmed our rational thinking.

Mondale lost in an epic way.

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