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Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:54 AM

Another DU Christmas Present - The ReTHUG Wreck of a Post Shellacking Caribbean Cruise

http://nymag.com/news/features/republican-caribbean-cruise-2012-12/
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The whole thing was white, and broken, that much was clear. A week after the presidential election, when the dreams of Republicans were dashed with President Barack Obama’s victory over Mitt Romney, we were snorkeling in the blue waters of the Caribbean. In the distance was a shipwreck. “You could make out the pieces of it,” said Ralph Reed, the right-wing political operator who had bolstered the Evangelical Christian vote for Romney. “It was deep and murky.”

Jonah Goldberg, the National Review contributor and author of Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning, also bore witness to the once-great vessel that foundered off the coast of Fantasy Island and was now sunken and covered in white barnacles. “I saw the silhouette of it,” he says.

But what, exactly, were we looking at? It was Friday, November 16. We were in Honduras, gazing at a wreck off a resort called Fantasy Island, near Mahogany Bay. Through my goggles, I watched Reed, in white swim trunks and black flippers, flap his way down through the extravagantly blue waters to the old sunken barge, part of the $64.95 Shore Excursion available to passengers aboard the m.s. Nieuw Amsterdam, an 86,000-ton cruise ship owned by Holland America Line. It was day five of the National Review magazine’s Post Election Cruise 2012, and the GOP’s recent problems were, mercifully, about 760 nautical miles away. The cruise, featuring the star columnists of William Buckley’s 57-year-old conservative biweekly, had been planned long in advance, and everybody had believed it would be a victory party. An ­e-mail from the magazine’s publisher arrived a few days before we embarked: “Do not despair or fret. At least not next week.”

Onboard the Nieuw Amsterdam, no one could follow his advice. “Who sent Obama here to destroy America?” a fiftysomething woman asked me one evening over dinner, as if it were a perfectly reasonable question. And here onboard the cruise ship, it was. If the Nieuw Amsterdam was a kind of ark of American alienation, at least it was an eminently comfortable one. The ship was a country unto itself, eleven stories high, 936 feet fore to aft, with eleven bars, six restaurants, two swimming pools, five hot tubs, a large café, and a library. There was the endless buffet on the Lido deck, slot machines and craps in the casino, an Asian lounge singer who did a mean “Copacabana,” a discothèque and a chamber-music cocktail lounge, cigars and Cognac by the pool, gift shops, and a full-service spa.

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Reply Another DU Christmas Present - The ReTHUG Wreck of a Post Shellacking Caribbean Cruise (Original post)
malaise Dec 2012 OP
Kolesar Dec 2012 #1
malaise Dec 2012 #2
arely staircase Dec 2012 #8
PennsylvaniaMatt Dec 2012 #41
arely staircase Dec 2012 #42
PennsylvaniaMatt Dec 2012 #43
Kolesar Dec 2012 #45
d_r Dec 2012 #3
JHB Dec 2012 #27
d_r Dec 2012 #28
JaneyVee Dec 2012 #4
malaise Dec 2012 #6
ThoughtCriminal Dec 2012 #5
Berlum Dec 2012 #7
catbyte Dec 2012 #12
Berlum Dec 2012 #23
malaise Dec 2012 #20
Capt. Obvious Dec 2012 #9
GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #10
malaise Dec 2012 #21
Capt. Obvious Dec 2012 #11
abelenkpe Dec 2012 #13
abelenkpe Dec 2012 #14
lunatica Dec 2012 #15
malaise Dec 2012 #18
Berlum Dec 2012 #25
malaise Dec 2012 #32
arely staircase Dec 2012 #16
lunatica Dec 2012 #24
jmowreader Dec 2012 #31
otohara Dec 2012 #17
malaise Dec 2012 #34
pamela Dec 2012 #19
malaise Dec 2012 #22
JHB Dec 2012 #26
hobbit709 Dec 2012 #29
tjwash Dec 2012 #30
malaise Dec 2012 #33
UCmeNdc Dec 2012 #35
malaise Dec 2012 #38
yardwork Dec 2012 #36
malaise Dec 2012 #37
yardwork Dec 2012 #39
watch the sky Dec 2012 #40
malaise Dec 2012 #44

Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:29 AM

1. Featuring the moron who wrote the book: "Dow 36,000"

Kevin Hassett, a former economic adviser to Mitt Romney, hosted my table of eight that night, arriving in a bright-green golf shirt and rimless glasses. He announced that this would be a “family” conversation in which he was the moderator.
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Hassett, with an oddly cheerful, Oh-What-My-Country-Has-Done-Now mien, predicted economic doom under Obama, the most likely scenario being another Great Depression, which would make 2008 look like a joyride.

That prompted a tall, extremely tanned blonde named Kay, from Old Greenwich, Connecticut, to ask Hassett, the co-­author of the 1999 book Dow 36,000, “So what do we do with our money?”
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There was a study that showed that stocks have the best return over long periods. Clowns like Hassett have extended that data and claimed that "you won't lose money in the stock market if you invest for a long period of time". That's bu!!$hit.

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Response to Kolesar (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:59 AM

2. The best part of this is that it was supposed to be a

victory trip

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Response to Kolesar (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:06 AM

8. i like the fact they are asking him

what they should do with their money - or at least the tanned woman is.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:14 PM

41. I have a Republican relative....

She was frantic and called her financial advisor wondering if she should sell all of her stocks..........after watching Neil Cavuto.

The financial advisor told her not to - thankfully.

I swear to God, the fear that is propagated from Fox News on older people is terrible. The 60-65% of seniors in this country that vote Republican, watch Fox News, etc. is basically a case of brainwashing with fear and ignorance. It is very sad.

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Response to PennsylvaniaMatt (Reply #41)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:19 PM

42. i have a rightwing coworker (a low paid teaching assistant) whose father recently passed away

she said she was so upset about the "death" tax and how that was going to eat up all of the money he left her. when i pointed out that didn't kick in until the millions of dollars she was floored. she had no idea that the several tens of thousands she got would be tax free - since she only listens to right wing info. sources.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #42)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:42 PM

43. Yes, A lot of it is what the right wing info. sources IMPLY, and don't directly SAY

I have noticed the same thing with what Fox reports when it comes to taxes. For example, they may mention that President Obama wants to raise taxes, but they conveniently leave out that it is for people who make six figures, however, many of their viewers think it will affect them, when in actuality, a majority of Fox viewers do not make more than $200,000.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 02:52 PM

45. Oh, good catch! eom

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 09:38 AM

3. this is why they can't face the reality

of changing demographics -

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Susan from Princeton granted that the Republican Party is “lily white and it’s a problem and it is messaging and Mitt Romney screwed up royally.”

But Ms. O’Sullivan again took umbrage. As everyone went silent, she recalled a conference she attended in Australia in which a liberal nun (who “didn’t even have the decency to wear a habit”) criticized America for its “inner-city racism.” Offended, Ms. O’Sullivan recounted what she wished she’d said to this nun:

“Pardon me, madam, but I have been in your country of Australia for ten days and the only Aborigines I’ve seen have been drunk on the street, and at least if we were in my country they would be serving the drinks at this conference!”

Ms. O’Sullivan then warned against watering down the purity of the conservative agenda to placate minorities or, as she put it, rather succinctly, “the bastardization of the product.”

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Response to d_r (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:55 PM

27. Oh, I think the weren't facing reality even when demographics were in their favor...

“Who sent Obama here to destroy America?”
Asking for financial advice from the author of Dow 36,000?
BOSS: You notice none of the workers are white.
CAREGIVER: Except the managers upstairs.
BOSS: Well, that’s the way it should be.


This kind of delusion isn't fresh off the still. Vision that blinkered requires careful aging, free from any contaminants for a long, long time.

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Response to JHB (Reply #27)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:09 PM

28. exactly

they didn't become republicans because they wanted to hang out with a bunch of minority folks. Heaven forbid.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 09:41 AM

4. Wow. That is a great article. Inside the mind of RWNJs. K&R!

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 09:58 AM

6. Long but well worth the read

Happy Holidays

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 09:55 AM

5. While they are "awakening" to the reality of demographics

they are still firmly in the bubble of the perpendicular universe for everything else.

NO clue that they are disastrously wrong about pretty much everything.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:04 AM

7. They deserve each other

...cruising aboard the Nieuw Amsterdam? WTF? That sounds like a fancy French socialist name, or something.

Why do Republicans HATE good old-fashioned American boats? American boats not good enough for them? What is wrong with these people?

Some folKs are claiming that the doCumenTarY phOtO below was snapped during an occult Republican Black Ops ritual held on the shuFFleboarD courT of the Niew Amersterdam:

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Response to Berlum (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:28 AM

12. Bush on velvet?!?

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Response to catbyte (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 11:00 AM

23. This one is suitable for framing.

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Response to Berlum (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:52 AM

20. Love that !!

Happy Holidays !!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:14 AM

9. FAIL

“Minorities came out like crazy,” said Hassett, sighing. “White people didn’t get to the polls. There are far more African-­Americans voting than they expected.”

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:15 AM

10. “Who sent Obama here to destroy America?”

That little, imaginary demon in your head sent him, lady. Seek professional help. And, take all your nutbag shipmates with you.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:53 AM

21. It's nice to see all their comments

They remind me of WilLIARd's 47% ('I thought we were speaking in private' comments)

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:20 AM

11. FAIL

As we drained the Pinot Noir, Hassett gave his audience the insider’s view of the Romney campaign, describing how its election-monitoring software crashed on November 6 and Obama was probably behind it, “because those guys are so evil.”



The table grumbled in assent.



“The thing we have to understand is, these are people who don’t have any morals,” said Hassett. “They’ll do anything. I’m one of their No. 1 targets. I mean, they really want me bad.”



Then Hassett pivoted to the liberal media. “I actually think that Goebbels was more critical of Hitler than the New York Times is of Obama,” said Hassett, tucking into a piece of strudel. “I was in the middle of the fight against the propaganda, and I have stories like you wouldn’t believe. These people are so evil. They’re basically Fascists. It’s unbelievable.”

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:28 AM

13. Socialists fascists....

I love how people can't decide which one. It doesn't make them look ignorant at all.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:29 AM

14. My parents would have fit in well with these loonies. Nt

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:42 AM

15. The thing that floored me was John Yoo's mother said while he tried to stop her,

These are the last three paragraphs:

On the leeward side of the Nieuw ­Amsterdam, John Yoo stood next to his mother, Sook Hee Yoo, a small, elegant Korean woman in black-framed glasses. She described herself as nonpolitical, an objective observer. And she had a diagnosis.

“To protect the ego, you have a defense mechanism: denial and projection,” she told me as her son leaned in to hear over the party din. “You deny your problem, saying it’s your fault and not mine. Instead of projection, blaming other people, we have to think of a positive solution. But I didn’t hear that yet.”

“They are still grieving,” she concluded as her son winced and began to break in, fearing she’d gone too far. “I hope not for more than six months. The grieving process should only be six months. If it goes on for more than six months, it could go into a major depression.”

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And that shirtless fella feeding the iguana is Ralph Reed.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:50 AM

18. Amazing indeed

I'm lovin' it Happy Holidays!!!


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Response to lunatica (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:28 PM

25. Yoo be an eeevil Republican torture fReak

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Response to Berlum (Reply #25)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:22 PM

32. The phrase

Fuck Yoo was designed for that war criminal!!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:42 AM

16. "Ralph Reed took off his shirt and fed an orange to a giant iguana."

not something i expected to read this morning.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #16)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 11:02 AM

24. That's him in the photo that malaise provided

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #16)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:19 PM

31. This isn't a reprint of a Hunter Thompson book, but it feels like it

When Ralph Reed feeds an iguana, how do you tell them apart?

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:44 AM

17. Priceless

oh woes us...

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Response to otohara (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 05:05 PM

34. Jonah Goldberg's page 6 comment was freaking priceless



“This is a more downbeat bunch this year,” he said. “We lost in 2008, but it was almost boisterous and fun. This, a little less so. People were dyspeptic.

“Their conception of what the country is about, they really were sure the country would reject Barack Obama,” he continued. “I do think it hits them hard. The fear I have, why this election stung, I think, Obama has successfully ­de-ratified some of the Reagan revolution in a way that Clinton never could and didn’t even try to. That’s what freaks people out, that feeling in their gut, either Obama has changed the country, or the country has sufficiently changed that they don’t have a problem with Obama. That’s what eats at people.”

And the truth is that the country has sufficiently changed and people don't have a problem with Obama. It's over for these old white men.
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This was a great read

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:51 AM

19. I love it.

As the Republican image stood today, said Lileks, “we’re the stupid people, we’re the yokels, we’re the dumb, we’re the racists, we’re the hicks, we’re against everything that’s hip and cool.”


Um, yeah, asshole. That's exactly what you are.

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Response to pamela (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:54 AM

22. That pretty much sums them up

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:36 PM

26. At least it was a "green" cruise. After all, with that many cranks on board...

...there wasn't much need to turn the engines on.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:32 PM

29. If ever a ship should have disappeared in the Bermuda Triangle, that one should have been it.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:55 PM

30. Freeps AHOY!

What's up with the far right and the love of oversized cruise ships?

Compensating for something maybe?

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Response to tjwash (Reply #30)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:40 PM

33. Fits in with their oversized expectations in November

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 05:21 PM

35. John Yoo's mother's observations were totally spot on

Good article......

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Response to UCmeNdc (Reply #35)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 06:03 PM

38. For real

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 06:02 PM

36. Ship of Fools.

Good article. Thanks for posting.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #36)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 06:03 PM

37. Great article

Glad I found it. Happy Holidays!

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Response to malaise (Reply #37)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:03 PM

39. Happy Holidays to you too!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:09 PM

40. Ship of Fools, v2012 N/T

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Response to watch the sky (Reply #40)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 08:57 AM

44. Welcome to DU watch the sky

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