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Tue Dec 25, 2012, 07:40 PM

Missouri Democrats argue over Limbaugh statue

JEFFERSON CITY A Missouri Capitol statue of Rush Limbaugh, like the man it honors, continues to be a source of controversy.

Most recently, it has sparked some Democrat-on-Democrat squabbling, with Gov. Jay Nixon’s administration coming under fire from lawmakers who say the governor isn’t living up to promises to give Limbaugh’s likeness the boot.

Former House speaker Steve Tilley announced in March that he was inducting the conservative radio host into the Hall of Famous Missourians. In May, a private induction ceremony was held and the bronze bust of Limbaugh was unveiled.

Missouri House Democrats say they were repeatedly promised by Nixon’s administration that the statue would never be installed alongside other inductees in the third-floor rotunda of the Missouri Capitol.

Rep. Jeanne Kirkton, a Webster Groves Democrat, said she was told personally by Office of Administration commissioner Doug Nelson that “it wasn’t going to happen.”


Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/24/3980879/missouri-democrats-argue-over.html#storylink=cpy

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Reply Missouri Democrats argue over Limbaugh statue (Original post)
proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 OP
iemitsu Dec 2012 #1
NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #5
iemitsu Dec 2012 #6
Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #11
iemitsu Dec 2012 #12
donco Dec 2012 #2
Indydem Dec 2012 #3
iemitsu Dec 2012 #13
Faygo Kid Dec 2012 #4
Jamaal510 Dec 2012 #7
n2doc Dec 2012 #8
proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #10
RC Dec 2012 #9
iemitsu Dec 2012 #14
proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #15
iemitsu Dec 2012 #17
backscatter712 Dec 2012 #16

Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 07:46 PM

1. Perhaps Missouri ought to consider opening a Hall of Infamous Missourians,

Limbaugh would be appropriate in such a setting but not along side characters who make Missouri proud. Limbaugh is too controversial to be chosen for the honor of being with the famous.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 07:59 PM

5. That's what I was thinking - "infamous"

rather than "famous".

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Response to NashvilleLefty (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:12 PM

6. A simple change makes the notion less offensive.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:48 PM

11. That has been on the table.

33 years of my life in SW MO. Many a "hero" in that area were infamous.

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Response to Lady Freedom Returns (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:09 PM

12. I'm in favor of a State Hall of Infamy since I believe

that places are defined by all the colorful characters that sprang from the local earth (or those who moved there and had an impact).
We should remember the people and the events that influence our time and place. They hold valuable lessons that ought to help guide our lives.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 07:50 PM

2. I think that should be a requirement

to have an anti-drug billboard visible in the background wherever it is put.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 07:55 PM

3. This is an ugly can of worms.

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Limbaugh is a douchebag and generally considered one of the lowliest creatures on earth.

But he is famous and he does have millions of listeners every day. He is from Missouri.

Qualifying famous people by whether they are politically popular by the current regime is just not something that we should be advocating.

After all, there are more republican governorships across the country than Democrat, and no famous liberal should get shit on.

Be careful what you wish for.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:40 PM

13. Helen Keller is a great example of how politics can effect

the way a community feels about a given character. Her story was and is remarkable. Few exceed her as an example of how one can overcome handicaps. Americans loved her and flocked to hear her speak or see her at other public appearances until she came out in favor of socialism. Then she became persona non grata. She was relegated to the scrapheap of unimportant personalities and became the butt of young boy's "Helen Keller" jokes (where she always responded with frantically wiggling fingers).
This dynamic and ground-breaking woman is largely forgotten in today's America. The lessons she drew from her experiences were not the lessons those in power thought we ought to learn, so Keller was marginalized, forgotten.
I do not mean to equate the contributions of Keller with Limbaugh. the two are not the same. In my opinion, Keller's life and work served to improve conditions and lives in her community while Limbaugh's efforts have been destructive and harmful to civic life, but both of them leave us with the opportunity to gain valuable insight, to help explain who we are and why we are like we are.
I agree that Limbaugh ought to be recognized by his fellow Missourians and understood for his popularity and his misguided message.
Rush has been too instrumental a character on recent talk radio and, through that medium, in politics. Someone needs to take credit for his being. And by recognizing Limbaugh in Missouri the rest of us will know that if that state produces another like him we will need to look at conditions and traditions that abound there, and fix them.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 07:57 PM

4. Born the same year. My goal is to outlive him.

Steaming pile of shit deserves zero respect. If I get the chance, I will piss on his grave.

I feel that way about no one else, but I HATE that pompous coward, and will never backtrack in that opinion.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:30 PM

7. I understand he's famous and from MO,

but really...can anybody say with a straight face that Rush deserves to have a statue among the likes of Dred Scott and Harry Truman? If they just HAD to give him something, why not a plaque instead? Also if they needed to have extra officers and security on hand for it, something should tell you right there that having a statue of him may not be a good idea.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:34 PM

8. All I ask is that they allow people to urinate on it.

Put a trough around it's base, wash it off every so often. Is it too much to ask?

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Response to n2doc (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:42 PM

10. Best idea yet.

LOL

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:52 PM

9. You have to remember that Missouri has a history of being a bloody Red State.

 

So of course the Democrats are arguing about this. There are more than a few tea-bag Dems here.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:55 PM

14. Who paid for that bust of Rush anyway?

The Koch bros? Where did it come from that local democrats are just now concerned about its inclusion in the Hall of Fame? Did the citizens of Missouri have to pay for it? With no debate?
What is the process in Missouri for determining who is recognized, in the capitol, with a bust? Can any notable, who donates one, get a statue of her/himself put on display?
I suspect that the bust was not inexpensive, even if it is of Rush. It seems odd that the work already exists while the concern over whether or not it should be included is still under debate.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:09 PM

15. I think it was private donations.

Democrats are mad because they say the governor (a Democrat) promised to remove it.

The speaker of the house picks the busts for the hall of fame. And he is a whacky right winger.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:11 AM

17. Thanks for the answers.

How can a governor promise to remove it if its the Speaker of the House's job to determine who gets a spot in the Hall?

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:44 PM

16. They should set that bust of Rush up in the bathroom...

right above the toilet!

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