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Tue Dec 25, 2012, 07:22 PM

Anyone heard anything about this?

http://www.examiner.com/article/armed-homeowner-shoots-intruders-while-children-have-sleepover

I googled it and the only sites I see that discuss this article appear to be, shall we say, biased. But Snopes has nothing one way or another. Anyone has any further information confirming or denying?

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Reply Anyone heard anything about this? (Original post)
Geoff R. Casavant Dec 2012 OP
CurtEastPoint Dec 2012 #1
PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #2
Control-Z Dec 2012 #3
Indydem Dec 2012 #4
catnhatnh Dec 2012 #5
iemitsu Dec 2012 #6
wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #7
iemitsu Dec 2012 #8
Citizen Abroad Mar 2013 #9

Response to Geoff R. Casavant (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 07:27 PM

1. Here's a link to the original story on local TV and

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Response to Geoff R. Casavant (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 07:50 PM

3. Don't even know what to say:

"Thanks to the homeowner being armed and thinking quickly, the report was on a failed home invasion rather than a mass shooting at a child’s slumber party."

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Response to Geoff R. Casavant (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:01 PM

4. This is why having a firearm is legal, constitutional, and important.

FOUR people tried to get into a persons home for God only knows what terrible purposes and a responsible, armed homeowner stopped them and saved his children.

Score one for us "gun nuts".

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Response to Geoff R. Casavant (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:16 PM

5. 3 armed guys at 3am were not just guessing at random...

...keep watching this until the whole truth comes out.

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Response to Geoff R. Casavant (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:23 PM

6. What kind of sleep-over includes both a 12 year old boy

and a one year old boy?
I wonder what the intruders thought they would find in the home?

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Response to Geoff R. Casavant (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:30 PM

7. strange....

"....A Sacramento, Calif. homeowner recently defended not only himself, but several children that were having a sleepover at his house, when three men attempted to break into his home. According to a report on December 23, 2012, by News 10, at a little after 3:30 a.m. Saturday morning the suspects attempted to break into the home and opened fire."

opened fire?
on what, who?
then...
"The homeowner reacted quickly by grabbing his own gun and defending his home and the children inside."

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Response to wildbilln864 (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:23 PM

8. Yep, pretty strange.

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Response to Geoff R. Casavant (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 12:18 AM

9. 2008 Suprme Court DC v. Heller protects home self defense

This is being made into more of an issue than it is for several reasons.

1) It serves the purpose of the pro-gun lobby to make a big deal out of it

2) Facts and statistics do not support any frequency to suggest this is an ongoing risk to public.

3) In 2011 according to FBI Uniform Crime Reports there were 201 firearm related private citizen 'justifiable homicides' - this situation qualifies as such

4) The frequency of multiple attackers and victims is very rare. Chances are there is more to this story than a burglary.

5) The frequency of firearm use by private citizens in self defense has been proven to be a gross exaggeration with estimates of use upwards of 2.5 million times a year - the FBI only reports 10,266,737 Violent and property crimes with clearance rates ranging from a low of 11% */- for car theft to 68% for homicide - 2.5 M is 25%. Firearm injury rates are two to one of fatalities, this story is an example of that so around 600 persons were injured or killed in similar circumstance in 2011 - applying a two to one ratio to shots fired would suggest 1,800 circumstances where home owners discharged a weapon even if one were to apply 20 to 1 your final figure of firearm use in self defense is 36,000 far from 2.5 M. An estimate that is being accepted by both sides of the argument is 64,000

6) This event took place about ten days following Newtown - it is making a reappearance in the last week of March 2013 as if it were current, 3,053 people have died in firearm related violence in the interim.

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