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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:11 PM

 

Is it true Senator Chuck Schumer and Diane Feinstein both have a CCW

A check of Pistol License records shows that Senator Schumer possesses an "unrestricted" pistol permit, a rarity in New York City.



Senator Diane Feinstein on the Left Coast who possesses something more rare an unrestricted concealed weapons permit.



Is this true because I always thought they were very antigun ?

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Reply Is it true Senator Chuck Schumer and Diane Feinstein both have a CCW (Original post)
former-republican Dec 2012 OP
JohnnyBoots Dec 2012 #1
former-republican Dec 2012 #2
still_one Dec 2012 #40
Matt_R Dec 2012 #61
Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #2
former-republican Dec 2012 #6
BigDemVoter Dec 2012 #4
MADem Dec 2012 #27
BigDemVoter Dec 2012 #43
DonViejo Dec 2012 #47
MADem Dec 2012 #60
TheCowsCameHome Dec 2012 #5
former-republican Dec 2012 #7
madinmaryland Dec 2012 #8
cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #35
Brother Buzz Dec 2012 #9
former-republican Dec 2012 #10
Brother Buzz Dec 2012 #11
former-republican Dec 2012 #12
Brother Buzz Dec 2012 #13
Recursion Dec 2012 #38
OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #14
cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #36
still_one Dec 2012 #41
wercal Dec 2012 #56
Brother Buzz Dec 2012 #57
Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #15
dballance Dec 2012 #16
Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #21
Coyote_Tan Dec 2012 #24
Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #34
Coyote_Tan Dec 2012 #55
dballance Dec 2012 #50
Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #53
OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #17
former-republican Dec 2012 #20
ChazII Dec 2012 #18
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #26
Thinkingabout Dec 2012 #19
charlyvi Dec 2012 #22
libdem4life Dec 2012 #29
Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #63
Ter Dec 2012 #23
doc03 Dec 2012 #25
realgreen Dec 2012 #31
Enrique Dec 2012 #28
Recursion Dec 2012 #45
Recursion Dec 2012 #30
still_one Dec 2012 #32
Recursion Dec 2012 #33
still_one Dec 2012 #37
Recursion Dec 2012 #39
still_one Dec 2012 #42
Recursion Dec 2012 #44
still_one Dec 2012 #49
TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #54
still_one Dec 2012 #58
-..__... Dec 2012 #46
Recursion Dec 2012 #48
JDPriestly Dec 2012 #51
still_one Dec 2012 #59
obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2012 #52
CTyankee Dec 2012 #62

Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:15 PM

1. Yes

 

In their world anmd Bloomberg's only plutocrats should be armed. Bloomberg has referred to NYPD as his own personal army in the past.

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Response to JohnnyBoots (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:16 PM

2. So do as I say ......not as I do

 

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Response to former-republican (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:45 PM

40. They have never been for a ban on guns, just on assault weapons, large magazine clips, and

Background checks

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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:16 PM

2. If so it would not surprise me.

i just posted on another thread that the elite and wealthy will always have access. Their lives are so much more important than ours and only they can be trusted to safely own weapons.
Hyprocisy in DC is a given.

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Response to Mojorabbit (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:22 PM

6. I guess some are more equal than others .....

 





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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:18 PM

4. Damn, Ms. Feinstein surprises me. . .

But I wasn't too much of a fan of hers while living in CA. Barbara Boxer? Now that's what I call a Senator!

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Response to BigDemVoter (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:42 PM

27. She came to prominence as a result of a political assassination.

Harvey Milk, anyone?

Murdered in cold blood by the Twinkie Defense dude?

I wouldn't be surprised if that's when she armed herself; back when she thought anyone could pop up and kill her...!

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Response to MADem (Reply #27)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:52 PM

43. Yeah, I remember. Was living in SF at the time. . .

Stupid me. I didn't even think of that. WTF?

I still don't like her though!

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Response to MADem (Reply #27)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:57 PM

47. Mayor Moscone's assassination made...

City Council President Feinstein into Mayor. I remember the press conference she held immediately after the assassinations, announcing the Mayor and Harvey were shot. She was breathless when she announced Dan White was the suspect. She was in an obvious state of shock.

I haven't purchased Twinkies since the court decision. My partner and I raised four sons, they never had Twinkies. They never saw FOX TV of any kind either...it was blocked.

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #47)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:16 AM

60. IIRC, she had to identify the bodies--and she came upon either the

Mayor or Harvey just after they had been shot. That does affect one--how could it not?

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:23 PM

7. why?

 

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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:24 PM

8. How about a link. Sure, they may have a CCR, but does that mean they do.

I do know people in gov't that have a CCR, but do not carry.

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Response to madinmaryland (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:38 PM

35. I'd guess it means you can decide when you carry and there's NO requirement to carry.

Having it though makes them seem more than a little bit hypocritical if they're now advocating laws that would keep "their subjects" from carrying.

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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:25 PM

9. Diane Feinstein has had a CCW for years and makes no bones about it

She's against assault weapons, not firearms.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:26 PM

10. Can everyone that is not a felon be issued one in CA?

 

I don't know what the concealed carry laws are in CA

I thought it had to be open carry and unloaded.

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Response to former-republican (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:29 PM

11. If the Sheriff is in your back pocket

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:30 PM

12. So more or less the elite

 

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Response to former-republican (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:32 PM

13. So more or less by county

Elite is subjective.

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Response to former-republican (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:42 PM

38. I'm pretty much iffy on concealed carry to begin with, but that's the main problem with "may issue"

It has a way of translating to "whim of the sheriff", which has a way of translating into "be rich and white".

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:37 PM

14. Good to know that she's willfully ignorant and not just stupid.

 

these military-style rifles (assault weapons) account for less than 3% of gun-homicides per year. Hell, more people are killed by "hands/fists/feet" than those evil rifles. By and far it's pistols account for a majority of gun-deaths and multiple shootings (over 70%).

Facts never seem to matter to our hypocrite congress-critters though. Maybe if they had to live by the rules the rest of us do ,they'd be more effective.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:40 PM

36. LOL so IF she carries, she ONLY carries a six-shooter (revolver)?

Come now...

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:49 PM

41. She also has never been for an outright ban on guns. Assault weapons and large magazine clips

Are their issues

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 02:09 AM

56. Sincere question

What capability, autoloading characteristic, or magazine capacity would a politician like the senator put into a gun control law, which would rid us of assault weapons but not the average pistol?

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Response to wercal (Reply #56)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 02:28 AM

57. A sincere answer to your question may be found in the Gun Control & RKBA (Group)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172

Legislation and regulations dealing with gun control ain't exactly my bailiwick.

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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:46 PM

15. Concern Trolling is a fine art.

Many here have it down to a science, it's truly amazing.

Not that you'd ever do it.


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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:47 PM

16. I Think It is Justified Given Threats to Senators

I don't find it hypocritical or bothersome that they have CCW permits. They don't get Secret Service protection like the President yet they have tons of threats. I think it's just good sense to arm themselves to protect themselves. They have a valid reason. They are not raging against other people with a valid reason to have a CCW permit. They are trying to legislate against the wide open ability of any asshole to get a weapon.

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Response to dballance (Reply #16)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:20 PM

21. There are plenty of women out there with

violent ex husbands and worthless restraining orders for example that deserve one just as much.

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Response to Mojorabbit (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:31 PM

24. Fuckin A +1

 

Not to mention people in bad areas, travelers and those who just don't want to be unprepared.

Just for the "important" people apparently.

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Response to Coyote_Tan (Reply #24)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:34 PM

34. 1+ A nikcuF

Not to mention first graders and such.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #34)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 01:58 AM

55. Anything to contribute to the point...

 

... Other than conforming to elitist stereotypes?

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Response to Mojorabbit (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:14 PM

50. Totally Agree With You /eom

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Response to dballance (Reply #50)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 01:28 AM

53. I hope you have a joyous holiday season

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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:53 PM

17. Having read the responses to your query, I am a little surprised to hear they both are...

 

I actually wondered about Biden since he's been put in charge of the 'task force' and that would be a little tricky if it turned out that he was an avid fan of guns for hunting or targets or some such.

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Response to OneMoreDemocrat (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:39 PM

20. I think he might have one , not sure though

 

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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:53 PM

18. According to usliberals.about.com

http://usliberals.about.com/od/liberalpersonalprofiles/p/SenFeinstein.htm


Interesting Personal Note:

Senator Feinstein is a staunch gun control advocate. Despite her stance, in the 1970s, she obtained a concealed firearms carry permit, and carried a handgun with her. A CCW permit was then rare in California, and was the only such permit in San Francisco. At the time, she was the target of a terrorist group that had shot out all the windows in her home. She no longer carries a gun.

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Response to ChazII (Reply #18)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:36 PM

26. It was shortly after a council member was shot and killed

milk I think, who was openly gay. She was the first on scene.

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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:53 PM

19. If it is legal to obtain a CCW then both would be able to get permits

I have not heard either say they are for banning all guns. If you have a link where they indicated they would like to ban all guns I would like to see it. However sensible reasoning would conclude if we are having the number of mass shootings in recent years it is time to take some action. NRA wants to put everything on mental illness, movies and video games. While these issues may indeed be a factor the weapons of choice on first shots has been weapons which fire rapidly and has the ability to fire many rounds without changing the source and to hear some brag can be changed in seconds. While the second amendment gives the right to bear arms I have never read where the second amendment gives anyone the right to go on a mass murder of innocent people. It would seem to entice the NRA to tell their members and everyone else this senseless killing has to stop, they would serve everyone to say gun rights will have restrictions and less will be available. I thought at one time the NRA taught gun safety but with the recent events the powers that be are nit even mentioning safety, just blame every one and things but don't think the guns had anything to do with the killings.

I come from a family of great hunters and they do not purchase weapons which overkill the game in which they seek. In fact they use and consume the game and don't throw it away because it is blown to bits. We don't allow jets to take off and land on our freeways, they have airports controlled by air traffic controllers. Don't criticize Feinstein or Schumer for having a CCW, they just might be on the side of reasonable weapons, excellent Senators to sponsor a reasonable weapons ban and not do away with the right to bear arms. Remember the Second Amendment does not allow any and all weapons. The privilege has been abused and now restrictions are required. Don't get mad at those having to make the laws to restrict, get mad at the dealers and manufactures who does not have any control.

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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:21 PM

22. Diane Feinstein was in City Hall the day Harvey Milk was murdered.

Dianne Feinstein, who was then President of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, saw White quickly exit Mayor Moscone's office from a side door and called after him. White sharply responded with "I have something to do first."
White proceeded to his former office, and intercepted Harvey Milk on the way, asking him to step inside for a moment. Milk agreed to join him. Once the door to the office was closed, White positioned himself between the doorway and Milk, pulled out his revolver and opened fire on Milk. The first bullet hit Milk's right wrist, as he tried to protect himself. White continued firing rapidly, hitting Milk twice more in the chest, then fired a fourth bullet at Milk's head, killing him, followed by a fifth shot into his skull at close range.
White fled the scene as Feinstein entered the office where Milk lay dead. She grabbed his wrist for a pulse, her finger entering Milk's bullet wound. Horrified, Feinstein was shaking so badly she required support from the police chief after identifying both bodies. Feinstein then tearfully announced the murders to a stunned public, stating: "As President of the Board of Supervisors, it's my duty to make this announcement. Both Mayor Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk have been shot and killed. The suspect is Supervisor Dan White."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscone–Milk_assassinations

I'm pretty sure that's when she began carrying a gun. I don't think she carries it anymore, though.

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Response to charlyvi (Reply #22)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:50 PM

29. She, like most "liberals", is for strict controls and gun management...not bans.

Responsibility and accountability and fees and taxes and periodic re-registration...for the monitored privilege of weapon ownership, freedom and protection.

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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:27 PM

23. The worst of them all is Sean Penn

 

He goes on tirades against guns, and supports a national handgun ban. Yet around 7 years ago, his Grand National was stolen. Guess what was in the glove compartment? A licensed gun. I'm sorry, but limousine liberals are almost as bad as neo-cons. I can't stand them.

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Response to Ter (Reply #23)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:36 PM

25. If everyone else wasn't armed they wouldn't have to be armed either I guess. Rosie

O'Donnell is another she don't think anyone should have guns but she also has armed body guards. Who would want that body anyway?

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Response to doc03 (Reply #25)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:07 PM

31. I'm sure there is someone out there that wouldn't.

 

After all while she is a beautiful person, she isn't the American ideal of beauty. You forget that there are CONservatives out there that are judgmental and hateful.

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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:43 PM

28. who cares if they are hypocrites?

if this issue depends in any way on the sincerity of Chuck Schumer or Dianne Feinstein, God help it.

But it doesn't.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #28)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:54 PM

45. Fair enough

And I do take your point. (And I'll take either of their sincerities over any R's.)

It does kind of undermine the "guns don't make anyone safer" argument, though.

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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:57 PM

30. Kucinich did for a while too (nt)

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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:26 PM

32. It isn't an assault weapon, and it is Done Because of all the death threats they get. Mike Malloy

Have a gun for the. Same reason.


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Response to still_one (Reply #32)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:29 PM

33. I thought having a gun didn't make someone any safer? (nt)

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Response to Recursion (Reply #33)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:41 PM

37. Are you a public figure? How many death threats have you had? In addition they are calling

For getting rid of assault weapons, stronger background checks, and large capacity magazines

Not a total ban on guns

To your original point for most people guns do not make them or their families safer

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Response to still_one (Reply #37)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:44 PM

39. Why does it make her safer but not someone with an abusive ex-husband?

In fairness I haven't seen you yourself claim that having a gun doesn't make you safer, but I see it a lot on the board.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #39)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:50 PM

42. Assault weapons and large magazine clips are her issues

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Response to still_one (Reply #42)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:53 PM

44. Feinstein places hold on concealed weapons bill

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/18/dianne-feinstein-concealed-weapon-bill_n_1434798.html

She hasn't made it as much of a crusade as assault weapons, true.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #44)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:59 PM

49. That has other issues involved. Should other states be forced to recognize another states concealed

Weapons

That has implications beyond concealed weapons

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Response to still_one (Reply #37)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 01:52 AM

54. Yeah, only rich folks and their families are safer, see. The masses are a danger to themselves, see.

Who gets to decide, our "betters" is who. Our ever trustworthy stewards.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #54)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:19 AM

58. That is a nice distortion, she never was against guns, just assault rifles and large magazine clips

Which incidently I use for hunting squirrel

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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:55 PM

46. He looks pretty happy to me...

 

never let a good photo-op go to waste... (even with a POS Tec-9)



Pinstripe suit and an AK?!?



Either strut around for the cameras with a "Chicago typewriter", or, throw on some low riding baggy jeans, Oakland Raiders baseball cap (worn backwards), or mix and match 3rd World camo.

What staff member/publicist approved of this shit anyways???



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Response to -..__... (Reply #46)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:58 PM

48. Why is her finger on the trigger?

And why is he firing the most poorly-designed gun, ever?

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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:16 PM

51. If you knew the personal history of Senator Feinstein and the assassination of Harvey Milk,

you would understand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Milk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianne_Feinstein

Feinstein was traumatized by the murder of Harvey Milk. She discovered his body.

So that is probably why she needs a gun carry permit and why she fights hard for gun control.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #51)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:23 AM

59. Actually I suspect the distortion of her position is intentionally being misrepresented. Feinstein

Never was for a banning of guns, only assault rifles, large clips, and for adequate background checks
and laws

The op is taking a talking pont directly from the right wing talking heads like mark Levin, who do not care what her position actually is, but do what the right wing loves to do intentionally mislead




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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:46 PM

52. I like the way

you do that CCT- Concealed Concern Trolling.

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Response to former-republican (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:12 PM

62. do they comply with the laws governing such permits? If so, what is your problem?

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