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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:05 PM

I talked to 11 hunters yesterday and none of them said they needed a semi-auto or even a third shot.

I had a family reunion and I have a lot of uncles and cousins who hunt and hunt together every year. I dropped out of hunting 20 years ago after I got 2 grouse with two shots and figured I'd quit while I had a perfect record of never missing.

But there are photos of my relatives with 30-40 birds piled on the front of their cars and a few of my cousins got their first deer before they learned to drive.

You would think given the NRA's portrayal of hunters that these men would all be gun nuts....

Well nothing could be further from the truth. NONE of the ten men or one youth are NRA members, even the four of them who served in the military.

Every single one of them said that for hunting birds there is no need for anything other than a double barrel shotgun, or if you can't afford one, a pump action shotgun. They also said that only ONCE did someone hit three birds with three shots and that was with a Double barrel shotgun and fast reloading skills, not a semi-auto. Of the ones who hunt deer they said that NEVER has a single one of them ever hit anything with the third shot ever and this is over a period of 45 years and involving at least a 60 different hunters over that time. Almost every one of the deer hunters used a single shot rifle, a pump slug gun, or a bow.

The fact is that any gun that fires more than three shots is for killing targets that don't run from the sound of gunfire.

In other words if you fire more than three shots you are wasting ammo, endangering people around you, polluting the soil against the next year's crop of game, and importantly you are scarring away any future game that day with the extra noise.

I still remember one of my uncles nearly crying and cursing himself, because he shot a pheasant when he thought it was a different bird. Even though pheasants were legal to shoot he explained to me that they were too rare around this area to kill even if the Gaming Commission didn't forbid it. He said, "I really wish we could just stun these birds with rubber shot or something. It's not like when i was a kid and our family needed the meat. Besides you are the only chef in the family good enough to make any of these birds taste better than a turkey from the store. i want you to take a good look at this dead pheasant because it will be the last one you ever see on this land living or otherwise."

I wonder if hunters like my family are the norm and are drowned out by all the NRA crap.I guess that is too bad because the hunters of my family are the kind of people other hunters should aspire to be.

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Reply I talked to 11 hunters yesterday and none of them said they needed a semi-auto or even a third shot. (Original post)
slampoet Dec 2012 OP
slackmaster Dec 2012 #1
slampoet Dec 2012 #5
former-republican Dec 2012 #6
slampoet Dec 2012 #11
formercia Dec 2012 #12
RetroLounge Dec 2012 #16
slackmaster Dec 2012 #20
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #2
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #14
neverforget Dec 2012 #18
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #22
ileus Dec 2012 #3
slampoet Dec 2012 #8
ileus Dec 2012 #17
slampoet Dec 2012 #21
Skittles Dec 2012 #26
meow2u3 Dec 2012 #29
Recursion Dec 2012 #4
JohnnyBoots Dec 2012 #7
former-republican Dec 2012 #9
slampoet Dec 2012 #10
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #13
ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #15
Paladin Dec 2012 #19
slampoet Dec 2012 #23
jal777 Dec 2012 #24
Igel Dec 2012 #25
Berserker Dec 2012 #27
OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #28
qkvhj Dec 2012 #30
HeeBGBz Dec 2012 #31
ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #32
flvegan Dec 2012 #33

Response to slampoet (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:07 PM

1. Hunters tend to tell tall tales

 

Did any of them tell you about a 1,000 yard head shot on a 30-point buck?

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:15 PM

5. That's a song by "Da Yoopers"

I haven't ever heard a single tall tale from any of them about hunting in my entire life. Many of these men served in Vietnam and have too much respect for life and meat to tell tall tails. Also one of them was a sniper, so we tend to be modest about such things out of respect.

Bragging is something the family kinda doesn't do unless you are young.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:22 PM

6. lol

 





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Response to former-republican (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:29 PM

11. Wow. that is real close range too.

What is that like 150 feet? If that? yikes.

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Response to former-republican (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:30 PM

12. The gravel dinged him.

Lucky it wasn't a Moose. You have two choices if using a call: Shoot or give it up.

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Response to RetroLounge (Reply #16)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:08 PM

20. I'm sorry the literary reference went over your head

 

But I am not an "NRA guy" nor did I call anyone a liar.

Lighten up and have a good holiday break. You're taking stuff way too seriously.

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Response to slampoet (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:08 PM

2. You described good hunters

Who care for the land too. The NRA used to...but then came a coup in the 1980s.

I wish the NRA went back to the past.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:39 PM

14. The NRA safety and training programs are still there and going along

You don't hear much about them since it is boring and lacks the salaciousness to attract eyeballs.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:02 PM

18. Well when Insane Wayne is your spokesperson it tends to color your view

of what the NRA has become: a lobbying group for gun manufacturers and Republicans.

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Response to neverforget (Reply #18)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:17 PM

22. Not my spokesman...but I understand what you mean

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Response to slampoet (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:11 PM

3. I'll be taking my son youth day Saturday, we'll take the AR

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Response to ileus (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:24 PM

8. Considering that in this thread you admit to shooting animals you don't eat.....

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Response to slampoet (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:56 PM

17. We eat game animals...

or give them away. depending...

Varmints are a different story, but you knew that.

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Response to ileus (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:17 PM

21. Who eats Crow and Coyote?

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Response to slampoet (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:37 PM

26. COWARDS

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Response to slampoet (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:53 PM

29. Wacko Wayne will when we get through with him

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Response to slampoet (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:13 PM

4. Yes, but hunting is an edge case of gun ownership. Fewer than 20% of gun owners hunt

Personally, when I've carried a gun as a civilian it was because of snakes and coyotes, which is a very different situation from stalking game (at least as far as I remember I've only used a pump-action shotgun for that, but I'm also not much of a hunter).

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Response to slampoet (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:23 PM

7. What does hunting have to do

 

With Second Amendment?

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Response to JohnnyBoots (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:25 PM

9. nothing

 

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Response to JohnnyBoots (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:26 PM

10. I am saying that every one of these hunters didn't have a problem with more restrictions.

Even the three that live in Detroit.

It is attempting to prove the point you are trying to make. More restrictions don't affect responsible hunters in the least.

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Response to slampoet (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:37 PM

13. Those are fair comments for upland bird hunters

Though I know many who use semi automatic shotguns of the 1100 family with a magazine block

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Response to slampoet (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:51 PM

15. Sure, they don't need them for hunting, but ask them about fishing.

Shooting fish in a river can be very difficult, and a semi-automatic rifle really comes in handy.

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Response to slampoet (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:02 PM

19. Most Present-Day Gun Activists Don't Like Hunting.


There is open scorn aimed at hunters by gun activists (including the insulting term "fudd"), along with repeated statements that the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. The sort of firearms which gun activists like---semi-auto pistols and military-styled semi-auto rifles---are not designed for sporting purposes, they're designed to kill human beings.

Sounds like you have a good family.

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Response to Paladin (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:19 PM

23. Thank you. I am lucky.

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Response to slampoet (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 05:05 PM

24. I hunt with semi-autos..

I use a semi-auto .22lr, a 20ga Remington 11-87 semi-auto shotgun. These guns provide me with a quick follow up shot on game when needed. I stive for quick humane kills when I hunt.

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Response to slampoet (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:35 PM

25. Don't confuse "need to" with "have a right to."

There are a lot of rights I don't experience a need for. Doesn't matter if I need them, want them, or disregard them. I have them.

Never had a need to not have troops quartered in my house during peacetime. Situations never come up, to be honest. Perhaps it has for you or others. Still, that doesn't mean I don't have the right not to have them billet in my living room.

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Response to slampoet (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:39 PM

27. You would think given the NRA's

 

portrayal of hunters that these men would all be gun nuts....
Nope that would be just the far left on DU not all Democrats.

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Response to slampoet (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:50 PM

28. Cool story bro... but the 2A is not primarily concerned with hunting.

 

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Response to slampoet (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:01 PM

30. A small problem

 

The second amendment is not about hunting. Not one word of it is about hunting. Our courts have already decided that this is the right of the individual.

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Response to slampoet (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:17 PM

31. They used to call my grandpa "Ole One Shot"

When he went hunting, he took one shell. If he didn't bag a deer with that one bullet, he didn't get his deer.

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Response to slampoet (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:28 PM

33. Such irony.

Sweet, sweet irony.

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