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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:49 PM

DU IMO is now a *** **** news source.

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Not at all like it use to be. I can't expect to find much news here unless it's about guns or politics or gun politics or the politics about guns. Not much else to read about here anymore. Many of the good bloggers have left or seldom post. I expect more will be devoting a better portion of their time on other sites. I'm not getting all the news I want to read here ...not even a 1/4 of it. While their may be some bias on other sites it certainly is not as bad as it is here right now. Someone needs to change what's going on here. The rules are not being followed and it's a free for all. The jury system is a joke right now. I'll give you one example and that's it. Try to post here in GD and look at the "Forum purpose:" description. Yea you may be noting the irony of this post as it may be deemed as being "whining about DU". I won't apologize for wanting DU to be better. Right now DU is what you make it for the most part. It's no longer a big tent. The balance has diminished. The far left, progressives, anti war, anti corrupt government, global human rights, people with a world view, ect are marginalized. Good luck with that. Ya know ...in a divorce it's never all one persons fault and with that in mind there are good Republicans and good Naderites and Greenies. What? Do you think Democrats are flawless? We are suppose to discuss issues not attack anyone and everyone you don't agree with. I expect a bombardment of insults in return for this post and that reflects what this site has become ....just another school play ground where the bullies, jocks, cheerleaders and clicks rule and the more important news gets lost within the bucket of rants and rages and worship of the stars and royalty.

That's right and irony doesn't escape me ...this is a rant.

BTW this song says it all: Rose Colored Glasses - Buddy Emmons

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Reply DU IMO is now a *** **** news source. (Original post)
L0oniX Dec 2012 OP
liberal N proud Dec 2012 #1
L0oniX Dec 2012 #2
theKed Dec 2012 #3
Fumesucker Dec 2012 #4
L0oniX Dec 2012 #5
ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #7
L0oniX Dec 2012 #8
Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #6
L0oniX Dec 2012 #10
Whovian Dec 2012 #9
hfojvt Dec 2012 #13
L0oniX Dec 2012 #15
Whovian Dec 2012 #20
Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #16
hfojvt Dec 2012 #11
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #12
hfojvt Dec 2012 #17
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #23
Jim Warren Dec 2012 #18
n2doc Dec 2012 #14
L0oniX Dec 2012 #21
freshwest Dec 2012 #24
HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #19
L0oniX Dec 2012 #22
Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #25
Initech Dec 2012 #26
REP Dec 2012 #27

Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:53 PM

1. DU has always discussed current topics and many times to obsess

Gun topics are current and will likely remain that way for the weeks to come sprinkled with Fiscal Cliff talk. Not just 2 months ago, it was all election and before that another mass killing. And how long have we beat to death the Susan Rice thing and Benghazi?

DU is still a good source to learn current events as it serves as a user fed aggregate news source. You learn what is happening here many times before the M$M has it listed.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:55 PM

2. My real complaint is that now I have to keep more tabs open to get the news.

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:57 PM

3. Be the change

you want to see.

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:00 PM

4. Better than all Michael Jackson all the time

Whew, I remember that obsession and I didn't give a flip about it.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:00 PM

5. OMG

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:04 PM

7. Holy poop! I was going to mention the death of MJ. nt

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Response to ZombieHorde (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:07 PM

8. Please do. Let's bomb GD with MJ threads ...oh ...and OJ threads too ...

and maybe a little ...Kate is knocked up and showing her breasts threads too.

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:01 PM

6. Resolution of the violence problem in this country is a very important issue and it's being played

 

out right now before our eyes. We are making it happen, we are choosing the course. Another world is possible!

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:12 PM

10. Good luck. Mean while 1000's of children in other countries are dead because of our policies.

Stop the wars and our out of control military presence and when we show our society that we are not going to tolerate our government killing the innocent then maybe it will come home to roust on the US people too.

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:12 PM

9. Considering the Gungeon is your favorite group, what's the prob?

 

It doesn't surprise me of your complaining about it though considering the tenor of discussion in GD though.

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Response to Whovian (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:16 PM

13. that's pretty funny

His favorite group.

A whole 1, count 'em, one post in the last ninety days.

Yeah, he's a gungeon nut.

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Response to Whovian (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:16 PM

15. Well for one, the Gungeon is not my favorite group ...second, you obviously...

don't have anything constructive to say here. You IMO are part of the problem with your insults. Thanks for making DU a better place and being an example for what I have said in my post.

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:23 PM

20. I did not notice the "1" and do sincerely apologize.

 

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Response to Whovian (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:19 PM

16. i'd really like to agree with you but you need to reflect before posting.


Favorite group: Gun Control & RKBA, 1 posts in the last 90 days (0% of total posts)


1 post in the gungeon does not a gunner make.

By the way my favorite group is frequently the stupid gungeon, and I am about as anti-gun and gungeoneers as you can get here and not be banned by the pro-RKBA gungeon host.

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:13 PM

11. DU has always had an issue du jour

with dozens and dozens of threads on that issue.

I cannot think of one that has been so dominant as the gun issue though. Seems like the front page of DU is about 90% guns right now and has been since Sandy Brook.

I expect we will move on in another week, unless there is another mass shooting.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:14 PM

12. This morning two fire fighters killed

Two wounded.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:20 PM

17. see, if even that counts as a mass shooting

then it will never stop.

Because two people get shot almost daily in this country.

Last night in Kansas City alone, about four people were killed by gunfire.

Or was it four by car accidents and two by gunfire? In all the commotion, I lost count.

Somewhere in this country there's always somebody who ain't treating somebody right.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:28 PM

23. Yup, but fire fighters don't normally get shot at

Merry Christmas.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:21 PM

18. Issue du jour

Hmmp, good phrase. How many children, adults, first responders die every week as a direct result of US foreign policy? Like it or not, that is being done in the name of the American people and the way many in the rest of the world view it.

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:16 PM

14. Then post some good stuff

DU is what you make of it. I post a load of stuff here, mainly in cartoons and science, because I like to do it and I like to let other people see the things I am interested in. Why don't you pick a subject and do the same?

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Response to n2doc (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:23 PM

21. n2doc ...you are so much appreciated by me and many others.

Choices ...all I can do is bring in the news from other sources and express my opinion on them. If I were to choose to bring in examples of peoples lives that have been saved as a result of them being armed to help bring some balance to the discussion I would get attacked ...so I am not going to do that. World human rights and eco news doesn't get traction during the rage. I might just take a break from coming here for a while as others have said they are doing. I'd rather not have to search through threads to find the news I would be concerned about.

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Response to n2doc (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:33 PM

24. Hey! And here it is the holidays. This makes me feel better:



'Firefighter saves a kitten.' Gawd only know the evil and corruption of the human race, the cruelty, venality and indifference in the real world. We can discuss that without going apocalyptic and never offering solutions.

n2doc, many of us appreciate your offerings to lighten the pain and bring us to remember what is better. Thanks and as kpete says, Merry Everything and Happy Always.

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:22 PM

19. Should probably have been posted in Meta

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:27 PM

22. I would have but it's about GD and the front page. I was hoping it would bring out some comments...

from those of like mind ...as in "am I the only one who thinks this way".

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:37 PM

25. I had a situation some months ago where I realized that I could nolonger...

...come here and basically get "All the news that a Lefty would be interested in". I popped onto Reddit and a few other, more general places, and found that even the more contentious discussions there were far more civil and informative than here.

I don't see a reason for DU to have come to this. DU really should be much more useful (it certainly was in the past)...but here we are.

If I want to find out what's going on, going to a generic news dump like Google News is still giving me more useful information than DU and that's just an absurd notion, IMO. I've been here forever. DU should not be like this: There's just no reason for it.

I don't entirely understand it, TBH. I know that Skinner has directed the hosts of GD that if people are enjoying a story, let it stay though it might be off topic, rather than shut it down on a technicality. I can't agree more with the spirit of that idea, but the actual situation on the ground is there is a far worse signal to noise ratio because of it.

Not to mention disruptors and all that other stuff, which does play a part too.

The funny thing is, there's still more than a niche for what DU originally was. But DU's not really meeting those needs and it's too bad.

I like Bold Progressives website as well as Common Dreams. If others have suggestions, kick them in here. I'm not saying desert DU for something else, I've just spent so much time here I don't have a very good lexicon of other Progressive sites- especially ones to post on.

PB

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:39 PM

26. Um yeah 20 children were just murdered. Forgive us as we sort through what's real and what isn't.

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:42 PM

27. Locking

This does not meet the SoP of this Forum.

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