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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:15 PM

When Assault Weapons are Permitted on the Street and in the home,

assaults will take place on the streets, in homes, in schools, in theaters, in malls, in factories, in hospitals, etc.

For those who want to distract from this point with bemoaning definitions of assault weapon, go ahead. You look like a calloused and heartless fool.

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Response to morningfog (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:18 PM

1. So was Newtown not an assault, since he didn't use an assault weapon? (nt)

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Response to Recursion (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:28 PM

3. It definitely was an assault weapon, even though some state did not define it as such.



It was manufacturered and marketed to appeal to yahoos' baser instincts -- and it is very popular among folks who like the most lethal weapons available. Where I live, the gun show lines were long this weekend with yahoos lined up to buy another assault weapon to add to their already large weapons cache. These folks are a danger to society, and all the bull to the contrary is just that -- NRA BS. If they can't, or won't change, their weapons need to be severely restricted.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:30 PM

4. No AWB, federally or in any state, has called that an assault weapon

Never at any point.

Can you at least accept that as a factual statement, or should I dig up the text of the '94 ban and every state ban and show you?

Being classified as an "assault weapon" has nothing and I mean absolutely nothing to do with a gun's lethality.

NB: the weapon is AFAIK illegal in California, but not because of the state's AWB

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Response to Recursion (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:39 PM

7. It is an assault weapon. It would not be so popular among the yahoos if it were not.


Definitions need to be tightened.

The biggest problem with those who covet such weapons is they will always push the letter of the law. They don't understand the spirit of the law, morality, what's good for society, or anything like that. Therefore, the next restrictions placed on guns need to be simple -- ban all semi-autos and make public carrying in most circumstances. Also, begin a concerted effort to change society's attitudes toward guns.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:41 PM

8. Tell me what you mean by "assault weapon"

I'm tired of this getting called derailing. I really don't know what you mean and I want to. Do you mean it's black and has a pistol grip?

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Response to Recursion (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:54 PM

10. Nope, I've heard that question from gun lovers for decades -- tired of trying to explain


to folks who sound and act like flat-earthers/birthers.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:00 PM

11. Well, we haven't been conversing for decades, and I think it's a fair question

Tell me what you mean by "assault weapon"; I do actually want to know.

(And, in fairness, "black with a pistol grip" is what my own survey of my anti-gun friends came up with.)

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Response to Recursion (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:50 PM

14. How does it differ from an M-16 when that M-16 is on semi- mode?

The US military calls it an assault rifle whether it is on the semi or full auto mode.. Either way it is considered an assault weapon by the military...

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Response to Bandit (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:55 PM

15. Well, if the safety couldn't go to burst, the main difference is that the M16 would be heavier

Though generally people use the .223 Remington rather than the 5.56 NATO.

But then again it would also be pretty much indistinguishable from the Mini-14 (posting a link to the page so people who don't like to see guns don't have to see it) http://www.americanrifleman.org/blogs/ruger-mini-14-gotw/ which people keep saying they don't want to ban.

In fact, an M16 that can't fire burst isn't really different from nearly every rifle sold in the US today.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:30 PM

5. It wasn't CT has a ban on them

 

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Response to morningfog (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:20 PM

2. I'm keeping my AR 15 in my home

 

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Response to morningfog (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:37 PM

6. There were absolutely no assaults or murders before firearms were invented.

 

Un-invent them now.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:02 PM

13. Right, because I can walk into an elementary school and take out 27 people in 3 minutes

with a stick.

Move on, please.

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Response to morningfog (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:49 PM

9. We have had what you incorrectly call assault weapons in society since the end of WWI

What is the impetus now to ban them? What has changed?

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Response to morningfog (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:02 PM

12. Thank you.

But be prepared for them to come in and list all the minutiae of their precious weapons, along with photos. I call it bullying behavior, if not down right threatening.

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