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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:32 PM

BS to the gun control diversion of blaming the mentally ill and violent movies and games.

We have always had mentally ill people and violent movies and games (which i don't like or view) but mentally ill people seldom had access to the type of weapons like they do now. And movies and games don't shoot people. People with guns shoot people!!

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Reply BS to the gun control diversion of blaming the mentally ill and violent movies and games. (Original post)
kelliekat44 Dec 2012 OP
samsingh Dec 2012 #1
intaglio Dec 2012 #2
qkvhj Dec 2012 #3
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #4
TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #5
kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #6

Response to kelliekat44 (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:44 PM

1. by mentally ill, maybe they're looking in the mirror

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Response to kelliekat44 (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:16 PM

2. Theres this and the straw man arguments and the false equivalence

All has to be opposed, not given a free pass.

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Response to kelliekat44 (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:49 PM

3. yep the old days

 

When we had very few gun laws.
Guns were common in schools with teachers and students storing them for hunting or even working on then in metal shop.
When mentally ill people were more closely monitored.
When there was a much higher percentage of two parent households.
Before violent video games.
Before violent blood and guts movies.
But mainly before we started giving out kids drugs from the shrinks that are known to increase thoughts of homicide and suicide by 10 to 12 times. Many of the children who are medicated with these drugs have no mental problems at all. They have behavioral problems because they have never been taught to sit down, shut up, and respect parents and teachers.


Before all of this we had no school shootings at all.
Before all of this guns were accepted almost everywhere and we didn't have the school shooting problems we do now.
The M-16 platform did not magically appear yesterday. The semi-automatic AR-15 version of that platform have been around since the early 1970's and we didn't have the school shooting problems then either.

There are a lot of pieces to this puzzle but what is clear is that the guns alone did not make this problem and do not cause it today.

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Response to qkvhj (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:00 PM

4. My where to start

While you got partial points for the structural violence, you are conflating with mirror. By your logic South Korea should have a mass shooting a day.

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Response to qkvhj (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:13 PM

5. Clearly, then, Americans can no longer handle the

responsibility of lightly-regulated gun ownership.

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Response to qkvhj (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 12:28 AM

6. One thing is absolutely true: without a gun you can't shoot someone. A two-year old might be alive

today in Tenn. had his granddad not had a gun. At least the kid would not have been accidentally shot.

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