Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:53 AM
Earth_First (11,602 posts)
These firefighters were VOLUNTEERS
Rousted out of bed in the early morning, pre-dawn hours, left their loved one's behind; not knowing that by selflessly answering the call for help a job that already carries the inherent dangers of firefighting, that they would have to lay down their lives to the hands of an armed gunman.
On Christmas Eve. Enough.Is.Enough. 
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Author | Time | Post |
 These firefighters were VOLUNTEERS (Original post) |
Earth_First | Dec 2012 | OP |
| Cooley Hurd | Dec 2012 | #1 | |
| samsingh | Dec 2012 | #9 | |
| Daemonaquila | Dec 2012 | #31 | |
| samsingh | Dec 2012 | #35 | |
| coalition_unwilling | Dec 2012 | #45 | |
| laundry_queen | Dec 2012 | #54 | |
| roguevalley | Dec 2012 | #56 | |
| no1uno | Dec 2012 | #57 | |
| baldguy | Dec 2012 | #72 | |
| Bluenorthwest | Dec 2012 | #2 | |
| AllyCat | Dec 2012 | #3 | |
| tradecenter | Dec 2012 | #4 | |
| cantbeserious | Dec 2012 | #5 | |
| former_con | Dec 2012 | #41 | |
| Trajan | Dec 2012 | #51 | |
| Zoeisright | Dec 2012 | #55 | |
| dflprincess | Dec 2012 | #63 | |
| Trajan | Dec 2012 | #67 | |
| Cherchez la Femme | Dec 2012 | #61 | |
| Starboard Tack | Dec 2012 | #58 | |
| golfguru | Dec 2012 | #64 | |
| daleanime | Dec 2012 | #6 | |
| EC | Dec 2012 | #7 | |
| ReRe | Dec 2012 | #8 | |
| Liberalynn | Dec 2012 | #10 | |
| pipewrench | Dec 2012 | #11 | |
| SoapBox | Dec 2012 | #12 | |
| Thor_MN | Dec 2012 | #13 | |
| nadinbrzezinski | Dec 2012 | #15 | |
| 2naSalit | Dec 2012 | #16 | |
| AAO | Dec 2012 | #18 | |
| happy xenusmas eve | Dec 2012 | #14 | |
| triplepoint | Dec 2012 | #17 | |
| riverbendviewgal | Dec 2012 | #37 | |
| bvar22 | Dec 2012 | #19 | |
| NoMoreWarNow | Dec 2012 | #20 | |
| Chorophyll | Dec 2012 | #21 | |
| Daemonaquila | Dec 2012 | #33 | |
| amuse bouche | Dec 2012 | #22 | |
| 99Forever | Dec 2012 | #23 | |
| sheshe2 | Dec 2012 | #24 | |
| narnian60 | Dec 2012 | #28 | |
| Cha | Dec 2012 | #25 | |
| Bernardo de La Paz | Dec 2012 | #26 | |
| uponit7771 | Dec 2012 | #34 | |
| coalition_unwilling | Dec 2012 | #46 | |
| In_The_Wind | Dec 2012 | #27 | |
| Lifelong Protester | Dec 2012 | #29 | |
| Iggy | Dec 2012 | #30 | |
| Sherman A1 | Dec 2012 | #40 | |
| Iggy | Dec 2012 | #50 | |
| Sherman A1 | Dec 2012 | #69 | |
| Walk away | Dec 2012 | #43 | |
| Cherchez la Femme | Dec 2012 | #62 | |
| golfguru | Dec 2012 | #66 | |
| Walk away | Dec 2012 | #73 | |
| golfguru | Dec 2012 | #76 | |
| Walk away | Dec 2012 | #78 | |
| golfguru | Dec 2012 | #79 | |
| oldbanjo | Dec 2012 | #74 | |
| Daemonaquila | Dec 2012 | #32 | |
| riverbendviewgal | Dec 2012 | #36 | |
| pipewrench | Dec 2012 | #38 | |
| Sherman A1 | Dec 2012 | #39 | |
| Historic NY | Dec 2012 | #42 | |
| Liberal_in_LA | Dec 2012 | #44 | |
| Panasonic | Dec 2012 | #52 | |
| blueamy66 | Dec 2012 | #70 | |
| AtheistCrusader | Dec 2012 | #47 | |
| oldbanjo | Dec 2012 | #75 | |
| Historic NY | Dec 2012 | #77 | |
| MissDeeds | Dec 2012 | #48 | |
| Auntie Bush | Dec 2012 | #49 | |
| savebigbird | Dec 2012 | #53 | |
| Lady Freedom Returns | Dec 2012 | #59 | |
| Cherchez la Femme | Dec 2012 | #60 | |
| Bonobo | Dec 2012 | #65 | |
| eilen | Dec 2012 | #68 | |
| arthritisR_US | Dec 2012 | #71 |
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:54 AM
Cooley Hurd (20,689 posts)
1. Kick and rec!
Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #1)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:17 PM
samsingh (10,347 posts)
9. the gun nut was protecting his right to burn down his property
Response to samsingh (Reply #9)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:21 PM
31. Stop the stupid hate - it's getting old.
Response to Daemonaquila (Reply #31)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:43 PM
samsingh (10,347 posts)
35. in this case i hadn't realized the brave firefighters had died, otherwise my
Response to Daemonaquila (Reply #31)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:07 PM
laundry_queen (4,195 posts)
54. NRA has made every death political from now on. Blame them, not DUers. nt
Response to laundry_queen (Reply #54)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:58 PM
roguevalley (32,811 posts)
56. my dad was a volunteer. no one is a better group than firefighters. this breaks my heart
Response to Daemonaquila (Reply #31)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:16 AM
72. It's not "stupid hate"; it's reasonable, well-directed hate.
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:24 AM
AllyCat (7,520 posts)
3. I'm actually hoping the media keep the ID of shooter quiet.
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:40 AM
5. Tragic and Disgusting - Enough - Repeal The 2nd Amendment - Outlaw All Firearms Now!
Response to cantbeserious (Reply #5)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 06:34 PM
Trajan (15,950 posts)
51. These kinds of posts seem ....fishy ....
Response to Trajan (Reply #51)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:09 PM
Zoeisright (7,846 posts)
55. Here's someone with a STAR and a HIGH post count who agrees with the "fishy" post.
Response to Zoeisright (Reply #55)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:57 PM
dflprincess (19,526 posts)
63. I agree as well. n/t
Response to Zoeisright (Reply #55)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 01:45 AM
Trajan (15,950 posts)
67. It's still a strawman ....
Response to Trajan (Reply #51)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:16 PM
61. Concealed carry? Assault weapons? + 30 weapon clips?
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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #5)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:11 PM
Starboard Tack (7,957 posts)
58. Not necessary. The Second does not mention guns, but arms.
Response to cantbeserious (Reply #5)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 01:13 AM
64. I am for confiscation of all guns
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:03 PM
EC (11,422 posts)
7. Sad this type of thing is happening again.
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:15 PM
ReRe (2,875 posts)
8. It looks like an all-out war...
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K&R
... on the innocents, on the angels of our society. A war between evil and good. Is the USG up to the challenge? This evil permeates this society, thanks to the NRA and associated gun enthusiast groups & to the gun manufacturers. How to weed out the Manchurian candidates among us? I don't know about everyone else, but my family is going to discuss this situation this week, and how to handle things should something like this happen to anyone in our family. Love above all else this Christmas. My heart goes out to those firemen families, both the dead and the injured, and to the Webster community.  |
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:55 PM
Liberalynn (5,547 posts)
10. My sister knew one of them
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:59 PM
11. Sad times when a military escort is required to fight a fire.
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Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:15 PM
13. As if fire coats aren't heavy enough, adding Kevlar is going to weigh them down.
Response to Thor_MN (Reply #13)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:24 PM
16. Along with errant FauxNews types for fomenting this kind of shit.
Response to Thor_MN (Reply #13)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:26 PM
AAO (1,497 posts)
18. And let them pay so much in fines
Response to triplepoint (Reply #17)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:02 PM
riverbendviewgal (2,461 posts)
37. LaPierre represents the Oat Keepers
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:34 PM
19. My heart is grieveing for these Heroes.
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:52 PM
Chorophyll (5,042 posts)
21. This was an act of terrorism.
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:55 PM
22. Ugh
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This country has gone completely mad
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Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:13 PM
sheshe2 (4,888 posts)
24. Oh dear God! This has to stop!
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:06 PM
26. NRA-LaPierre solution: add armed shooters riding shotgun on every firetruck
Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #26)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:32 PM
uponit7771 (16,153 posts)
34. +1
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:14 PM
In_The_Wind (42,964 posts)
27. Our local firefighters are all volunteers.
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May those who lost their lives today rest in peace.
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Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:17 PM
Lifelong Protester (4,781 posts)
29. I am well PAST "Enough is Enough"
Response to Iggy (Reply #30)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:18 PM
Sherman A1 (11,560 posts)
40. You are correct
Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #40)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 06:22 PM
50. Since Congress Doesn't Have a PLAN
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for much of anything critical-- I understand why you don't recognize a plan when it is presented.
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Response to Iggy (Reply #30)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:49 PM
Walk away (4,596 posts)
43. Will his new plan be armed guards on fire trucks?
Response to Walk away (Reply #43)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:39 PM
62. An armed guard for every U.S. citizen.
Response to Walk away (Reply #43)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 01:20 AM
66. Shots fired at firefighters is very unusual
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Response to golfguru (Reply #66)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:23 AM
Walk away (4,596 posts)
73. Have you ever been to Israel?
Response to Walk away (Reply #73)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 01:45 PM
76. Bottom line- kids in Israeli schools are safer than USA n/t
Response to golfguru (Reply #76)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:17 PM
Walk away (4,596 posts)
78. Bottom line. Even Israel has better gun laws than we do!
Response to Walk away (Reply #78)
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:02 AM
79. Show me...
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Response to golfguru (Reply #66)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:03 AM
oldbanjo (676 posts)
74. I agree with some teachers being armed, some
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:00 PM
riverbendviewgal (2,461 posts)
36. Pictures of these brave men and the shooter
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:12 PM
38. Earth_First - here is the audio from the scene
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:14 PM
Sherman A1 (11,560 posts)
39. K&R
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Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:41 PM
Historic NY (19,737 posts)
42. Volunteers from my state ...Monroe County
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they were always cordial hosts. ....
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Response to Historic NY (Reply #42)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 06:45 PM
Panasonic (2,921 posts)
52. I went to college in Monroe County
Response to Historic NY (Reply #42)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:08 AM
70. from Buffalo.....
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I've been to Rochester a few times.....this just breaks my heart
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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #47)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:05 AM
oldbanjo (676 posts)
75. You need to trace down the people that let this nut out of jail.
Response to oldbanjo (Reply #75)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 03:45 PM
Historic NY (19,737 posts)
77. Its called the Parole Board....
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 05:50 PM
48. This breaks my heart
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Horrible, horrible acts of inhumanity this December. It is beyond comprehension. Love, prayers, and healing thoughts to their families, friends and colleagues.
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Response to MissDeeds (Reply #48)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 06:15 PM
Auntie Bush (15,264 posts)
49. May those firefighters rest in peace and blessings to all their families.
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 06:59 PM
53. The fact that they were volunteer firefighters is irrelevant.
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:40 PM
60. the entire town is in mourning
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I live less than 5 miles away. It's a beautiful spit of thin land, split so boats can cross over into Lake Ontario from Irondequoit Bay, and that there's no through automobile traffic. You can build a house there so that one side has beachfront on Lake Ontario and the opposite side has beachfront on Irondequoit Bay.
Good (?) people, very kind peaceful, helpful and polite. That reminiscence is no more. There's a wonderful bar on the other side of the split, it's called Marge's Lakeside Inn. Best 'secret' local point to meet friend s and have a few drinks. In the summer you can take your beverage out the sandy beach, grab an inner tube and sip beer like that whilst talking to old friends and new. I've come in by boat and waded in many a time. I know without a doubt they, if physically possible, opened tonite and are having a wake. If their water lines are frozen solid, right up the road is the Reunion Inn, which will be doing the same tonite. If you're in the area you may want to stop by, in respect. To hell with Christmas cleaning, tonite I'm going down and join the mourners. I keep out of the gungeon but this is double-shit icing on top of the fecal cake. I even got into words with a NURSE who said the firefighters should be armed... they were ambushed for new-born Christ's sake! Something MUST be done about this gun problem! That was no 'well-regulated miltia! That, nor the children in Newton, do not fit any part of the Constitution! Gun control must be enacted NOW. Than ks for letting me blow off some tiny bit of steam. |
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:51 AM
68. This is so sad. Last year a 15 y/o set fire to his house and killed his family in Webster
Response to Earth_First (Original post)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:12 AM
arthritisR_US (3,509 posts)
71. This breaks my heart
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