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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:58 AM

 

What is wrong with saying "Happy holidays?"



Trivia: Clement Moore's Night Before Christmas was changed by his editors to make "Happy Christmas" "Merry Christmas" and it stuck on this side of the Atlantic.

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Reply What is wrong with saying "Happy holidays?" (Original post)
Whovian Dec 2012 OP
HappyMe Dec 2012 #1
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #2
jwirr Dec 2012 #3
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #10
Mariana Dec 2012 #8
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #13
onecent Dec 2012 #15
TDale313 Dec 2012 #19
Posteritatis Dec 2012 #36
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #62
Posteritatis Dec 2012 #35
amandabeech Dec 2012 #39
Bake Dec 2012 #43
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #66
enlightenment Dec 2012 #4
LisaLynne Dec 2012 #6
grammiepammie Dec 2012 #77
Mariana Dec 2012 #7
OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #69
renate Dec 2012 #72
JHB Dec 2012 #5
elehhhhna Dec 2012 #9
denverbill Dec 2012 #11
TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #27
kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #32
Bake Dec 2012 #44
Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #12
onecent Dec 2012 #14
yardwork Dec 2012 #23
kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #31
yardwork Dec 2012 #33
Bake Dec 2012 #45
CTyankee Dec 2012 #38
kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #46
CTyankee Dec 2012 #61
amandabeech Dec 2012 #40
kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #47
amandabeech Dec 2012 #58
amandabeech Dec 2012 #70
socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #37
kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #48
pkdu Dec 2012 #16
Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #17
Evergreen Emerald Dec 2012 #18
yardwork Dec 2012 #34
oberliner Dec 2012 #65
Evergreen Emerald Dec 2012 #67
Arkansas Granny Dec 2012 #20
BigDemVoter Dec 2012 #21
treestar Dec 2012 #22
cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #24
NCTraveler Dec 2012 #25
kydo Dec 2012 #26
immoderate Dec 2012 #28
kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #29
SheilaT Dec 2012 #30
amandabeech Dec 2012 #42
Iggo Dec 2012 #41
GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #49
happy xenusmas eve Dec 2012 #50
Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #68
Jenoch Dec 2012 #51
socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #53
amuse bouche Dec 2012 #57
tularetom Dec 2012 #52
socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #54
amuse bouche Dec 2012 #55
JustAnotherGen Dec 2012 #56
longeyemom Dec 2012 #59
Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #60
former9thward Dec 2012 #63
Live and Learn Dec 2012 #64
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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:01 AM

1. There's nothing wrong with it.

Just as there's nothing wrong with Merry Christmas.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:01 AM

2. I've noticed more and more people aren't saying anything. And I find that sad. n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:08 AM

3. You noticed that I have not wished anyone anything. But that does not keep me from thinking what

I want to think. Buy the way I wish people HH when I do not know what they think and specify the holiday if I know their wishes.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:19 AM

10. That's what I use too, is Happy Holiday. n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:18 AM

8. I'm sure it won't be long before saying nothing will be interpreted

by some nutcases as an attack on Christmas and Christians.

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Response to Mariana (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:21 AM

13. Anymore I'm inclined to think no matter what I do or say, about 50% of the world is going

to hate me for no logical reason at all.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:24 AM

15. Yeppers...I agree with this... n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:04 AM

19. ^^^ this ^^^

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:16 PM

36. Of course. You vile fiend.

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Response to Posteritatis (Reply #36)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:45 PM

62. Yep, that's me!!!

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Response to Mariana (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:15 PM

35. I'm expecting someone to claim that "merry Christmas" is an attack on Christmas soon. (nt)

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:51 PM

39. Me, too.

This morning I did some last minute shopping at my local Safeway.

The place was absolutely hopping as was the wine store nearby.

I said "Merry Christmas" to folks that I thought were very likely to be Christmas celebrants. They all smiled and said "Merry Christmas" back.

I tried "Happy Holidays" with a couple of people whose name tag or appearance suggested non-Christmas celebrants, but that greeting didn't get the big smiles.

I didn't hear anyone else say anything.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:02 PM

43. It's because they're afraid of offending someone and getting a nasty reply.

Frankly, in the spirit of the season, if someone told me Happy Hanukkah (and I'm not Jewish), I'd thank them and wish them the same! It's just a holiday greeting. People trying to be kind. Why not respond in kind?

You'd think that just for a couple of weeks, people could put aside their assholiness. But noooooooooooooo.

Bake

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Response to Bake (Reply #43)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:16 PM

66. I live in a rather affluent and religious area and one would think the people would

be happy and kind, especially at this time of the year ... but no, I went shopping this morning and I never saw so many nasty looking and potentially grouchy people. I did my last minute shopping and went home ... and the horn honking because people thought you weren't cutting off enough people ... I guess they were rushing off to build another church. And I don't look like a teabagger, so I got stares about that too, apparently. I'm glad I'm leaving this place soon.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:09 AM

4. Nothing.

There is more than one holiday celebrated this time of year - Happy Holidays is inclusive. People who find it offensive have issues.



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Response to enlightenment (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:14 AM

6. I've always thought that.

For one thing, there is also freaking New Year's. We call it the Holiday Season, so ... yeah, there are multiple holidays happening, so people who are offended by do have issues and an agenda.

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Response to LisaLynne (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:15 AM

77. I've always thought that

Finally, I so agree. There are two holidays so I have always said Happy Holidays because I am wishing everyone both a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year and this was years before the controversy about Merry Christmas.

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Response to enlightenment (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:16 AM

7. Unfortunately, a lot of people seem to have issues.

I think their main issue is that they believe what they hear on Fox News and RW radio.

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Response to enlightenment (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 06:31 PM

69. Yep, around this time of the year, saying 'Happy Holidays'...

 

is a lot easier than going through the entire list.

Though I do tend to say 'Merry Christmas' a lot...only because I love to say it so much and I only get to say it once a year.

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Response to enlightenment (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 04:36 AM

72. Last year I was dropping off some stuff at the homeless shelter

Where all the volunteers are, I think it's safe to assume, unusually good people.

As I was leaving, I wished a guy decorating the front door "Happy holidays!" and he fairly assertively (assertively enough that I remember it a year later) replied "Merry Christmas!"

Okay, fine, so he celebrates Christmas. Now I know. But how does he know I do? Perhaps not everybody saying "Happy holidays" is playing it safe or being sensitive or politically correct. Maybe the person saying it doesn't celebrate Christmas themselves.

(As it happens, I do celebrate Christmas. But I was kind of disappointed to be thinking of Bill O'Reilly and the OMG War on Christmas at what should have been a friendly moment.)

It's a polite greeting both coming and going.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:14 AM

5. Robert Conrad summarizes "War on Christmas" outrage...





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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:19 AM

9. "Keep the HOLY in HOLIdays" seems to

confuse war-on-christmas whiners. Just saying.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:21 AM

11. When I was young Happy Holidays was introduced as a way to be inclusive to Jews.

It's saying 'whatever holiday you celebrate, have a happy one'. After all, you have no way of knowing most people's religion. I think that was even encouraged at our Methodist church.

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Response to denverbill (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:38 AM

27. I think that is the most considerate holiday greeting at this time of the year.

It is also a diverse enough greeting to include the New Year as well......

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Response to TheDebbieDee (Reply #27)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:10 PM

32. That's why the RW hates it. It's CONSIDERATE of

religious minorities.

We can't have that. Amurka is a Christian Nation (TM) and don't anybody forget it!!!1!!1!11

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #32)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:04 PM

44. Once a year, I manage to put aside my animus towards even RWers.

If somebody says Merry Whatever, Happy Everything, I'm not offended. I wish more people would.

Bake

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:21 AM

12. Nothing. That's been said for decades. To me, it represented rolling Christmas and New Year's Eve

together. Nowadays, I regard it as that, but also including Hannukah and other religious holidays around the same time of year. I don't always know if someone's Jewish, for example.

But there's nothing wrong with Merry Christmas, either, if you know the person you're speaking to celebrates Christmas.

Stores have ALWAYS said "Happy Holidays" to customers....rolling in Christmas and New Year's Even together, and including Jewish customers.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:23 AM

14. I always say "Merry Christmas". That is where my heritage came from and I'm

damned proud of it...and if someone cannot handle it it is their problem. I honor them if they say Happy Hanakuh...what's the big deal????

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Response to onecent (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:17 AM

23. There is no big deal. Nobody cares if you say Merry Christmas.

It's only the right-wing noise machine that claims that people don't like it when other people say Merry Christmas. The fact is that nobody cares.

Of course if you say it to Jewish people they may be a little taken aback. This has happened to me. You know what? After a slight pause they usually say Merry Christmas back.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #23)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:08 PM

31. Here in my area we have a HUGE Jewish population -

kosher markets and storefront synagogues on every corner it seems like. And you know what? When you wish most of them (except the orthodox) Merry Christmas (because you often can't tell by looking that they're Jewish) they wish it right back. Many of them come right out and admit they are headed off to do some Christmas shopping and put up a tree because they celebrate SECULAR Christmas. I think it's a hoot.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #31)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:14 PM

33. That's been my experience too. It's only the fundamentalists in every religion who get huffy.

Everybody else is fine with everybody else celebrating whatever they wish. I now say Happy Holidays because it is more inclusive.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #33)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:05 PM

45. Although there are those among us on DU who get offended if someone says Merry Christmas

And that's a shame.

Bake

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #31)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:27 PM

38. I too live in a heavily Jewish neighborhood. I think, as a Gentile, it would be highly

inappropriate for me to wish any of them merry christmas.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #38)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:19 PM

46. I've never seen an indication that they find it offensive.

They know that there is no way to tell someone is Jewish if they don't have a yarmulke on or the fringed shawl. And plenty of them wish it right back, with or without a Happy Hanukkah.

It's never wrong to wish anyone YOUR particular holiday greeting - only assholes take offense at good wishes because they are the wrong type.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #46)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:25 PM

61. If I know someone is christian I say merry christmas, no problem. If I don't know, I say

happy holidays. If I know they're Jewish I say happy hannukkah. I've never had a problem with that approach. I just think it is common courtesy.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #31)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:56 PM

40. It's not a tree, it's a Hannukah Bush!

I've seen some folks put a big inflatable lighted Menorah in the front yard or on the roof.

More power to them!

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Response to amandabeech (Reply #40)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:22 PM

47. Over on Candy Cane Lane (our local holiday decoration mecca)

most houses have Christmas decorations. When you buy a house there the decorations are customarily sold with it and you are EXPECTED to decorate, lol. Some of the Jewish folks there put up Santas and elves and such, lol. Some of them put up Hanukkah decor. It's all in good fun and nobody gets their nose out of joint.

People come from miles away just to drive up and down the streets of that neighborhood looking at the lights.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #47)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:03 PM

58. Sounds great, Kestrel!

I'm on the other side of the continent from you, and my observations are from the NYC outer boroughs and neighborhoods in the '80s. The bright blue Menorah.

I'm originally from totally gentile West Michigan. I have bronchitis, and I' m missing Christmas at home. I 'm feeling better and will go home in early January. Unfortunately, the wild Christmas decorations in one block of the little town sound of my little town will be down by the time I get there.

Mom's going to hold the tree, and it will be a combination Christmas, New Year's and my Mom's birthday.

My memories of wild Hanukkah are from my then boyfriend in NYC who knew every neighborhood in Brooklyn,

In my home town, the Hispanics, mostly of Mexican and Honduran heritage, put on multiple thousand watt decorations. They've adopted the anglo tradition and then some. Everyone has to cruise by their houses at least 2 times. Nice people.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #47)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 02:17 AM

70. Neighborhoods like that are great.

It's even greater that no one gets his or her "nose out of joint."

Happy Holidays!

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Response to onecent (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:17 PM

37. What? You don't even want to wish your Christian friends

a Happy New Year? As another post upthread said, even if you're Christian, Happy Holidays can include Xmas AND New Year.

I've been doing something a little different this year if I'm in a situation where I don't know the religious affiliation of the group. I'll start off by saying, "Merry Xmas". Then I'll add "Oh, and Happy New Year!". Then "And Happy Chanukah". Then "Oh Shoot. Happy Kwanzaa too". And I'll end it by saying, "Oh hell, Happy Holidays! That's easier". It seems to get the point across without angering anybody.

Edited to add: I forgot that I usually say something after the Kwanzaa quote about my Wiccan buds and "Happy Solstice too!"

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #37)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:22 PM

48. Don't forget Eid. For the muslims. lol

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:27 AM

16. Its not " Faux News approved" ... please read the Producers Notes

/sarc off

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:32 AM

17. Nothing at all. I see it this way:

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:52 AM

18. I have had two people correct me when I said "happy holidays"

I responded both times with "and happy Hanukkah." For some reason that offends them?

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Response to Evergreen Emerald (Reply #18)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:15 PM

34. I love it! LOL!

If anybody ever corrects me for saying Happy Holidays - that hasn't happened yet, but if it does - I'm going to say "and Happy Hanukka!"

Perfect comeback.

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Response to Evergreen Emerald (Reply #18)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:56 PM

65. Next year, Hanukkah falls in early November

What will you do when Hanukkah and Christmas do not coincide?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #65)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 05:55 PM

67. Kwanzaa, winter solstice, New Years

There are a number of celebrations this time of year. It is offensive to me that someone would demand That I exclude all other celebrations in favor of theirs.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:08 AM

20. Nothing at all. I wish people a Merry Christmas bevause

that's what I celebrate. If someone who celebrates another holiday were to wish me Happy Hanukkah or Kwanzaa, for example, I would return the greeting. It's about good wishes for the season and I never turn them down.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:13 AM

21. Nothing

Although you wouldn't know it from the response I got from a co-worker to whom I wrote, "Have a nice holiday" in an e-mail. She sent me a very pissy response about how I've "got to believe."

As tempting as it was to write back and ask, "believe in what?", I just let it drop. I suppose she, too, thinks everybody is Christian in this Christian Nation of ours." Sheesh.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:14 AM

22. Nothing and I use it for anyone that I don't know for certain

is a Christian. For that matter, don't know why Christians are so upset about it. I suspect most aren't. You can use it to include the New Year. Really a dumb distinction, created by right wing shit stirrers.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:17 AM

24. Nothing

Merry Christmas though

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:19 AM

25. Nothing is wrong with it.

And I have never had someone tell me there is something wrong with it.

I have also never gotten upset when someone wishes me a Merry Christmas or the like.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:20 AM

26. not a damn thing is wrong with saying Happy Holidays

Seasons Greetings.

There's a Holiday for just about everyone and for many two or three. And I am not talking about days off from work, school, mail delivery and banks. Most cultures and religions have some type of important day or traditions that happens in the last two weeks of dec. Then it's the New Year.

I say Happy Holidays most of the time. On Christmas Eve and Christmas I will say Merry Christmas. When its Hanuka I say Happy Hanuka. And same with the rest, when its the day or days of what ever groups thing I try to wish them well. On New Years, its Happy New Year.

But on all the days in between, Happy Holidays, and thanks to our consumer driven mentality there keeps becoming more days to the Holiday Season.

So Happy Holidays, DU! My you and yours have peace and love all the days of your lives.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:39 AM

28. Happy Holidays, everyone!

And fuck anybody who can't take the joke.

--imm

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:03 PM

29. Well, you see, Happy Holidays is offensive because it's

too generic. Many holidays of many religions come at this time of year but it is NOT OK to acknowledge those other ones in any way, even indirectly.

America is a Christian nation so the only holiday you are permitted to acknowledge this time of year is CHRISTMAS.



I don't usually wish anybody Happy Holidays verbally (though my holiday cards said that) - I DO wish them a Merry Christmas because that's the holiday I was raised with. If a Jewish person wishes me Happy Hanukkah, that's fine with me. Pagans wish me happy solstice and my nose doesn't get out of joint, either, and I'm likely to wish them the same. If someone wished me Happy Kwanzaa I'd take no offense and probably wish it back.

Thin-skinned uber-christians need to grow up and realize it's not all about THEM.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:03 PM

30. I have a job dealing with the public.

I just love it when people say Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas. Alas, I didn't get very many Happy Hannukah greetings, mainly because this area is sadly lacking in Jews.

I just love the joy and good wishes that usually accompany those greetings. My personal beliefs or practices are absolutely not at issue.

I'm working this evening, and I'm working all day tomorrow, 9am to 8pm. I volunteered to work tomorrow, and it's entirely up to me to be a happy face all day. Which is pretty easy for me.

It's our individual choice how we respond to people. Anyone who snarls at someone because the other person doesn't give the greeting wanted, or gives a wish of good cheer, is an asshole.

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #30)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:00 PM

42. Belated Happy Hannukah (hope that it went well)

and a Happy New Year.

I'm a Christmas celebrant, so you can wish me Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, and I'll be quite fine with it.

You may also wish my Mom Happy Birthday, because her 91st is in January.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:58 PM

41. Season's Greetings, everyone!

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:25 PM

49. Not a damn thing.

Unless, of course, you are somebody who thinks everyone should adhere to THEIR beliefs, but has no respect for those of anyone else.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:29 PM

50. I dislike it from the perspective of having to fit into 3D reality

 

in the Material World. Not interested.

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Response to happy xenusmas eve (Reply #50)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 06:02 PM

68. Happy incessant odd hobby of trolling from the library day!

Have a good one. I know they're probably closed tomorrow.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:32 PM

51. It's Christmas Eve.

It would be ridiculous to say Happy Holidays today or tomorrow. I've seen reports where a university made some student club call the trees they were selling as a fundraiser as 'holiday trees'. That is absurd. They are not 'holiday trees', they are Christmas trees.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #51)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:51 PM

53. Actually the inside tree at Yule predates Christianity by......

5 centuries or so. Yeppers, it's a Pagan ritual symbol. Merry Christmas though.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #51)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:03 PM

57. Not ridiculous at all

It's much more absurd and ridiculous that people don't know the history of this Pagan Holiday and the religious nuts and Fox get incensed. When in fact, they are the ignorant ones

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:40 PM

52. We still have unacceptable levels of unemployment in this country

We have people dying for lack of decent affordable medical care.

We have a bloated defense budget that gobbles up public resources at the expense of every other government program.

We have seniors faced with the choice between medical attention or food.

We have an educational system that is non functional.

We have public infrastructure that is falling apart.

None of these things appear to bother most of us.

And we can still manage to summon up outrage over whether or not someone says "Merry Christmas".

What the fuck is wrong with us?

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Response to tularetom (Reply #52)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:54 PM

54. THIS!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

nm

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:58 PM

55. I like Happy Holidays

It covers New Years too.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:02 PM

56. Nothing

But on Christmas day amongst friends and families that celebrate the birth and life of Jesus or at Church - it would be silly to say it. It's Christmas.
It doesn't diminish other religions if those who celebrate Christmas call it that.

Or do we want to eradicate the word entirely?

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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:10 PM

59. Nothing wrong with it!

I think it is the most inclusive and acknowledges that many have holidays this time of year.

As a Jewish person growing up in a overwhelmingly Christian area during the 60's, I felt quite alone during this time of year. We celebrated Hanukah, lighting candles all eight nights and searched for hidden gifts around the decorated house. I was joined by cousins and my two brothers.But at school, I was the odd one. I was never allowed to forget it. Every year I was asked why I did not celebrate Christmas. Even the teacher in my 2nd grade class asked me why I did not believe in Jesus. I was told I was going to hell, that I was a Christ killer. That WWII was my fault. Etc. Happily, we did not live there long, but I was 5-8 years old, and you remember.

So, when Fox talks about a war on X-mas, I have a particularly annoyed response. Especially when they talk other months about being pro-Israel. And when some of my FB friend get annoyed about Happy Holidays, I try to remind them about the rest of us.

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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:19 PM

60. Holiday or Holy day is too generic or inclusive and not divisive enough.

The modern incarnation of the Republican Party only knows "divide and conquer" as a means of obtaining or maintaining power.

So any nit they can pick to cause division or the perception of division will be exploited.

Thanks for the thread, whovian.

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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:50 PM

63. Say what you want.

I say Merry Christmas because that is the holiday I am celebrating. At New Years I say Happy New Year. If someone is looking for something to be offended by then I don't want them to be part of my life anyway.

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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:54 PM

64. It really ticks me off when people wish me Happy Holidays.

I'll have any kind of friggen holidays I want and you have no right to insist mine be happy.

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Tue Dec 25, 2012, 02:45 AM

71. Nothing wrong with saying "Happy Holidays".

False Noise and the rest of the Wingnut Bubble as usual are peddling a bunch of bullshit in order to create some false outrage because they know their ideas for improving the country suck ass. This shouldn't be news to anybody. Billo the Clown and the rest of them even tried this shit last year, too.

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Tue Dec 25, 2012, 04:40 AM

73. Those who don't say Merry Christmas would stop saying Happy Holidays

 

If everyone thought they were saying Happy Holy Day.

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Tue Dec 25, 2012, 07:05 AM

74. Wrong is strong. Marketing is the thing.

If you work at Toys-R-us you say welcome to Toys-R-us rather than welcome to our store.

It might be wrong to the manager, it might be overzealous marketing to the greeter.

Time tells, time told.

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Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:02 AM

75. Nothing. Christmas isn't the only holiday going on during the "holiday season".

It isn't even the only Christian holiday.

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Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:07 AM

76. I'm an Athiest so saying "Happy Holidays" is my way of saying....

"I like the colorful and fun traditions that people with primitive beliefs practice this time of year. I will gladly join the party, decorate and give gifts but don't expect me to buy into your mythology, whatever it is."

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Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:55 AM

78. Actual conversation I had

This involved a guy I didn't know in a mall. He was sitting on a bench outside a store I was coming out of. I was going to sit down as well to wait for my friend who was still in the store.

Me: Happy Holidays (said nicely as I sat down)
Man: That's Merry Christmas (said in that challenging tone)
Me: Oh, yeah? Well, Season's Greetings, pal! (meeting his aggressiveness)

I got up after that and went back into the store.

TlalocW

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Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:11 AM

79. Just more of the Christian "War Against the Solstice"

As an Atheist, I am not offended if somebody wishes me "Merry Christmas" on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day. I don't like it any other time though.

How do you think most Christians would react if somebody greeted them with "Have a Super Solstice Season"?

And why don't Christians want to celebrate Jesus ACTUAL birthday?

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