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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:12 AM

Chris Hedges: The Final Battle


from truthdig:



The Final Battle

Posted on Dec 23, 2012
By Chris Hedges


Over the past year I and other plaintiffs including Noam Chomsky and Daniel Ellsberg have pressed a lawsuit in the federal courts to nullify Section 1021(b)(2) of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). This egregious section, which permits the government to use the military to detain U.S. citizens, strip them of due process and hold them indefinitely in military detention centers, could have been easily fixed by Congress. The Senate and House had the opportunity this month to include in the 2013 version of the NDAA an unequivocal statement that all U.S. citizens would be exempt from 1021(b)(2), leaving the section to apply only to foreigners. But restoring due process for citizens was something the Republicans and the Democrats, along with the White House, refused to do. The fate of some of our most basic and important rights—ones enshrined in the Bill of Rights as well as the Fourth and Fifth amendments of the Constitution—will be decided in the next few months in the courts. If the courts fail us, a gulag state will be cemented into place.

Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Mike Lee, R-Utah, pushed through the Senate an amendment to the 2013 version of the NDAA. The amendment, although deeply flawed, at least made a symbolic attempt to restore the right to due process and trial by jury. A House-Senate conference committee led by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., however, removed the amendment from the bill last week.

“I was saddened and disappointed that we could not take a step forward to ensure at the very least American citizens and legal residents could not be held in detention without charge or trial,” Feinstein said in a statement issued by her office. “To me that was a no-brainer.”

The House approved the $633 billion NDAA for 2013 in a 315-107 vote late Thursday night. It will now go before the Senate. Several opponents of the NDAA in the House, including Rep. Morgan Griffith, R-Va., cited Congress’ refusal to guarantee due process and trial by jury to all citizens as his reason for voting against the bill. He wrote in a statement after the vote that “American citizens may fear being arrested and indefinitely detained by the military without knowing what they have done wrong.” ......................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_final_battle_20121223/



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marmar Dec 2012 OP
xchrom Dec 2012 #1
lunatica Dec 2012 #2
fredamae Dec 2012 #3
truth2power Dec 2012 #4
WinkyDink Dec 2012 #13
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #33
Doctor_J Dec 2012 #34
IthinkThereforeIAM Dec 2012 #20
ReRe Dec 2012 #5
Plucketeer Dec 2012 #17
heaven05 Dec 2012 #21
ReRe Dec 2012 #36
lastlib Dec 2012 #22
marmar Dec 2012 #29
ReRe Dec 2012 #37
Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #6
snot Dec 2012 #15
truth2power Dec 2012 #7
byeya Dec 2012 #18
Berlum Dec 2012 #8
ProSense Dec 2012 #9
WinkyDink Dec 2012 #12
Nay Dec 2012 #24
snot Dec 2012 #16
dotymed Dec 2012 #28
snot Dec 2012 #30
pangaia Dec 2012 #10
WinkyDink Dec 2012 #11
pocoloco Dec 2012 #19
heaven05 Dec 2012 #23
raouldukelives Dec 2012 #14
heaven05 Dec 2012 #25
Nay Dec 2012 #26
heaven05 Dec 2012 #31
woo me with science Dec 2012 #27
byeya Dec 2012 #32
Doctor_J Dec 2012 #35

Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:16 AM

1. du rec. nt

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:39 AM

2. I hope it gets overturned

It's clearly and unambiguously unconstitutional.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:18 AM

3. Why is this such

an issue? Why are "they", especially McCain, so driven to keep that provision in this law?

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Response to fredamae (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:41 AM

4. A very good question, which I've asked myself many times. And moreover,

why does Obama want it? What is going on?


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Response to fredamae (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:03 AM

13. Power. Control. Private prisons/camps/$$$. ZERO to do with "Vater..." I mean, "Homeland Security".

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:26 PM

33. yep..says so right here:

the $633 billion NDAA for 2013

Somebody is making 633 billion bucks from that law.
Most likely the ever growing privatized prison business.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:41 PM

34. Yep. Follow the money.

our government is pretty much just a crime syndicate From Neil Bush getting rich off of "school vouchers" to Erik Prince to the prison scam, they're just taking money from working people and giving it to the insiders.

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Response to fredamae (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:38 AM

20. See NRA/LaPierre...


... nuff said.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:41 AM

5. For years they have gone...

K&R

...around and gone around and gone around the US Constitution. Making illegal legal. Up is down, down is up. Right is wrong and wrong is right. And common sense doesn't make sense anymore. And here we are in a giant mess and wonder why. No one can seem to put their finger exactly on the problem. Well, this is it: how they have sliced and diced our Constitution up in the last several decades. It is the problem that underlies all the problems that we have as a nation.

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Response to ReRe (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:26 AM

17. 330 million Neros have fiddled

while a tiny number of those with official pens have redacted what was once beheld as a testament to reason, ration and rights. We're now to the point where we're left with a playbook that would bring a grin to Stalin's mug.

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Response to Plucketeer (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:51 AM

21. yep

I like that reference to stalin. very apt. I try not to capitalize monsters names. They disgust me so.

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Response to Plucketeer (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:05 PM

36. Isn't that the truth...

...grinning in his tomb.

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Response to ReRe (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:56 AM

22. '1984' was a WARNING--NOT a MISSION STATEMENT!!

"War Is Peace;
Freedom Is Slavery;
Knowledge Is Ignorance"

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Response to lastlib (Reply #22)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:55 AM

29. A warning sadly unheeded.

nt

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Response to lastlib (Reply #22)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:22 PM

37. I'm not a dicicple of Orwell...

... but his writing was prophetic, wasn't it? What is the back-story on the writing of "1984"? And what did people think of the book when it was published? Thank you, if you can answer these questions. I know, I could go look it up, but I'm deep in nut bread making right now...

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:43 AM

6. The 1% and the Corps. do not want us to challenge them again. They are prepared to hold

our government by force if necessary. That is why we need COMPLETE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM!!! This will be the battle to recover our representative form of government. We have a Facists state. The FBI should be investigation the special interests and the hold they have over our elected officials!

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:09 AM

15. +1000

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:47 AM

7. Thank you, marmar, for keeping us up to date on what Chris Hedges has to say, ...

especially in the face of those who engage in knee-jerk attacks on him whenever he points out some of Pres. Obama's more egregious actions.

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Response to truth2power (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:33 AM

18. Many Thanks!

 

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:47 AM

8. Gettin jiggy with Gulag Americana

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:51 AM

9. Here's what I don't get:

Why is this news after the amendment was removed?

"The amendment, although deeply flawed, at least made a symbolic attempt to restore the right to due process and trial by jury."

There was a campaign against the amendment because it was flawed.

Feinstein amendment doubles down on NDAA's assault on constitutional rights
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021954511

Where was the advocacy for this before hand? Why wasn't there a campaign to push members of Congress to support this?

There has to be something else besides disappointment and complaining. The same thing happened with climate change legislation in 2009. You can't kill a bill and then complain that it didn't pass. Well, you can, but what's the point?


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Response to ProSense (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:00 AM

12. Don't you know? "Before hand" is "panicking" and "not trusting."

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:57 AM

24. Gads, ain't that the truth. I am so sick of that attitude. I want to scream: "The reason

we're panicking is because we've been SCREWED so many times before, and because afterwards, the apologists come out of the woodwork again to say that no one protested the action, so of course it went through..." ARRRRRRGH.

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Response to ProSense (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:22 AM

16. Not sure what you mean by "advocacy"

but there were numerous efforts against it. Just google ndaa.

The main problems, as I see it, are:
1. that the 1% wanted it;
2. they own the media;
3. they own much of Congress; and
4. they own the voting machines and tabulators.

Edited to add: Hence the "diffuse" objectives of Occupy. We've allowed major, systemic problems to develop on multiple fronts, so even when we win a particular "campaign," the 1% just get another bill introduced, or whatever; the battles don't stay won.

This is not to be hopeless, just to argue that, while we must engage in the battles, we'll continue to have to fight them until we've "won the war" w.r.t. these crucial systemic problems: media reform, campaign finance reform, and election reform, as well as educational reform.

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Response to snot (Reply #16)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:42 AM

28. IMO, "occupy" must rebuild and become a major grassroots political organization.

It will require the support, advocacy and participation of the majority of Americans. Occupy began as a protest against the encroaching fascism in America. Of course while many people agreed with the need for, and the principles of Occupy, due to apathy and the corrupt MSM, the movement has all but folded in most areas.
Without Occupy or some equivalent organization, America will continue in its race to the bottom and the oppression that fascism brings. We are the majority and we are being destroyed by the privileged few in our society. Our only hope comes with strength in numbers and some type of organized resistance to what is rapidly happening to the majority. If we continue to be apathetic and refuse to educate ourselves about why and who is responsible for our declining freedoms and the usury that has become ingrained in our culture, our lives and future will be very bleak.
If the majority would get involved, we could field our political candidates and take our country back(?).

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Response to dotymed (Reply #28)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:01 PM

30. Yes. And yes, Occupy is alive and kicking. Be sure to

follow them here -- http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1252 -- and elsewhere, and get involved!

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:52 AM

10. Ah yes.. McCain...the "Maverick."

What a schmuck. And he has always been a schmuck. :>

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:59 AM

11. Dubya was right: the Constitution IS "just a G*dd****d piece of paper."

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:37 AM

19. ....and impeachment is a bad idea!

Just ask the aclu and the large number of dipfucks here at DU.

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Response to pocoloco (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:56 AM

23. lol

I fear it's probably true of some.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:04 AM

14. "The corporate state knows that the steady deterioration of the economy

and the increasingly savage effects of climate change will create widespread social instability."

They do know this. It is how we wind up with oil companies publicly funding climate change deniers while they privately prepare for and are busy at work dividing up the new exploration areas CC will bring.
It is why they need to address the long term costs associated with with our safety net, and soon. Stuff is expensive now, sure, but we ain't seen nothing yet.
Wall St and its supporters know now all to well the hell they are unleashing on earth. They are not idiots. They are not blind enough to not trust their own lying eyes.

The system will not allow itself to be touched, to be regulated. The only option is ensuring the costs to maintain the lower classes be as low as possible when the climate eggs they have laid finish incubating.

If I recall correctly, as it stands now they base inflation on manufactured goods. The costs of those items have mostly declined over the last 30 years. When the rising tide of the damage they have wrought starts to breach the walls it will drastically increase the costs of those goods. Climate change will change everything. Costs will have to dramatically skyrocket.
They know they have to put a stop to it now before they wind up having to partially foot the bill for the misery they have so selfishly heaped upon the young, the unborn and our natural world.

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Response to raouldukelives (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:00 AM

25. reasoned

explanation of corporate greed and the evilness of profit being king. Yeah it's coming down the tracks, 1000mph and ain't going to stop until it crashes.

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Response to raouldukelives (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:03 AM

26. It has been obvious for a while that TPTB are preparing for that instability, feeling that human

rights are expendable in the face of the enormous climate/economic forces we face. They are correct in the overall sense, but no one should think they are doing this to make things marginally better for the whole of mankind. It's a resource grab by the most powerful. We will all be lucky to end up with a quarter-acre to work by hand. And a shack to sleep in.

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Response to Nay (Reply #26)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:17 PM

31. I think

we'll all be in a hardscrabble serfdom like existence sooner than we would all like to think because of the greed and power of the fascist/corporate state of the world. They own the worlds resources, lock, stock and barrel. Look at the billionaires and trillionaires like that goddamn mitshit that ran for public office in this country. They care less about the 98% than they would with a dead dog in the street, in fact they'll probably feel more for the dog. They'll work us to death on minimum subsistence and when we drop, the bulldozer brigade will push our bodies into the mass grave, cover it and move on. Bad times a coming, maybe not like this, but bad times for the 98% for sure.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:09 AM

27. "If the courts fail us, a gulag state will be cemented into place."

It can't be wrong. Obama supports it.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #27)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:12 PM

32. The modern incarnation of the gulag state was the Reagan/North plan to herd protesters of

 

the republican wars, arms for hostages, the murderous invasion of Grenada, the support for the death squads in El Salvador & Honduras, etc into stadiums and other public facilities. When North was questioned about his illegal activities, Rep Jack Brooks was forbidden to question North about these plans which, apparently, have never gone away.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:44 PM

35. The Hedges bashers are MIA today

since he's not mocking Dems for going along with this kind of crap, I guess he won't be the object of abuse this time.

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