Mon Dec 24, 2012, 06:03 AM
Philosoraptor (15,019 posts)
This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want.Last edited Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:05 AM USA/ET - Edit history (2)
The chimes were ringing the three quarters past eleven at that moment. ``Forgive me if I am not justified in what I ask,'' said Scrooge, looking intently at the Spirit's robe, ``but I see something strange, and not belonging to yourself, protruding from your skirts. Is it a foot or a claw!'' ``It might be a claw, for the flesh there is upon it,'' was the Spirit's sorrowful reply. ``Look here.'' From the foldings of its robe, it brought two children; wretched, abject, frightful, hideous, miserable. They knelt down at its feet, and clung upon the outside of its garment. ``Oh, Man! look here. Look, look, down here!'' exclaimed the Ghost. They were a boy and girl. Yellow, meagre, ragged, scowling, wolfish; but prostrate, too, in their humility. Where graceful youth should have filled their features out, and touched them with its freshest tints, a stale and shrivelled hand, like that of age, had pinched, and twisted them, and pulled them into shreds. Where angels might have sat enthroned, devils lurked, and glared out menacing. No change, no degradation, no perversion of humanity, in any grade, through all the mysteries of wonderful creation, has monsters half so horrible and dread. Scrooge started back, appalled. Having them shown to him in this way, he tried to say they were fine children, but the words choked themselves, rather than be parties to a lie of such enormous magnitude. ``Spirit! are they yours?'' Scrooge could say no more. ``They are Man's,'' said the Spirit, looking down upon them. ``And they cling to me, appealing from their fathers. This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy, for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased. Deny it!'' cried the Spirit, stretching out its hand towards the city. ``Slander those who tell it ye! Admit it for your factious purposes, and make it worse! And bide the end!'' ``Have they no refuge or resource?'' cried Scrooge. ``Are there no prisons?'' said the Spirit, turning on him for the last time with his own words. ``Are there no workhouses?'' The bell struck twelve. Scrooge looked about him for the Ghost, and saw it not. As the last stroke ceased to vibrate, he remembered the prediction of old Jacob Marley, and lifting up his eyes, beheld a solemn Phantom, draped and hooded, coming, like a mist along the ground, towards him.
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| Philosoraptor | Dec 2012 | OP | |
| trof | Dec 2012 | #1 | |
| madokie | Dec 2012 | #2 | |
| Philosoraptor | Dec 2012 | #3 | |
| Demo_Chris | Dec 2012 | #4 | |
| zeemike | Dec 2012 | #5 | |
| Frank Cannon | Dec 2012 | #6 | |
| SnowCritter | Dec 2012 | #7 | |
| Ilsa | Dec 2012 | #8 | |
| Whovian | Dec 2012 | #9 | |
| Squinch | Dec 2012 | #10 | |
| ReRe | Dec 2012 | #11 | |
| Evasporque | Dec 2012 | #12 | |
| Arkansas Granny | Dec 2012 | #13 | |
| BlancheSplanchnik | Dec 2012 | #14 | |
| Philosoraptor | Dec 2012 | #15 | |
| Brigid | Dec 2012 | #16 | |
| freshwest | Dec 2012 | #17 | |
| Philosoraptor | Dec 2012 | #18 | |
| Hissyspit | Dec 2012 | #19 | |
| defacto7 | Dec 2012 | #20 | |
| Odin2005 | Dec 2012 | #21 | |
| aint_no_life_nowhere | Dec 2012 | #22 |
Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:19 AM
madokie (36,638 posts)
2. Thank you
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Happy Holidays |
Response to madokie (Reply #2)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:20 AM
Philosoraptor (15,019 posts)
3. "God bless us, each and every one"
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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:38 AM
Demo_Chris (2,433 posts)
4. Amazing writing.
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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:54 AM
zeemike (10,838 posts)
5. A most appropriate post.
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K&R
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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:56 AM
Frank Cannon (6,193 posts)
6. Ah, the George C. Scott version of A Christmas Carol.
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Edward Woodward as the Ghost of Christmas Present. Easily my favorite cinematic version of the tale. Well done, my friend. Excellent choice.
And Merry Christmas to you. |
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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:00 AM
SnowCritter (316 posts)
7. One of my favorite movies
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Last edited Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:01 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) The first one I saw was the 1951 version starring Alastair Sim. Definitely a classic. George C. Scott played a great Ebenezer Scrooge, as did Patrick Stewart.
May we all aspire to be like the "new" Ebenezer, keeping the spirit of Christmas alive in our hearts all the year long. Merry Christmas! |
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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:11 AM
Ilsa (31,706 posts)
8. Last night I watched the 1999 Patrick Stewart
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version, also excellent.
Dickens understood humanity so well. |
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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:26 AM
Squinch (3,060 posts)
10. K&R. That Charlie sure could write!
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Here's hoping for a day where people read that and don't think it's relevant to their times.
Happy Holidays! |
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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:42 AM
Evasporque (2,023 posts)
12. That is no "Ernest saves Christmas"....nt
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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:46 AM
Arkansas Granny (14,665 posts)
13. K&R
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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:00 AM
BlancheSplanchnik (7,714 posts)
14. brrrrrrrrr, that gave me the chills.
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He saw Us.
Buddhism refers to the three poisons. Greed. Anger. Stupidity. They are part of human life but if we strengthen the Buddha nature that is *also* inherent in life, we can create a better life. If many people do so, we create a better world. In the end, it's our decision. Every moment we choose again. We can make a better choice, more informed, more beneficial, more value creative at any time. We need to be conscious of ourselves, what we do, and of the Law of Cause and Effect. Then we can break our own patterns. With perseverance, small changes add up and create large changes. We need to keep fighting the negativity and unconsciousness, as it manifests in everyday life and inside us...our own tendencies to give up..... OK, Buddhist philosophizing /off. |
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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:05 PM
Philosoraptor (15,019 posts)
15. .....................
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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:14 PM
Brigid (10,590 posts)
16. Ignorance and Want.
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Yep, that is what Man has produced for itself, all right.
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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:20 PM
freshwest (31,556 posts)
17. Remember the film and the book given me by my brother. Read it as a family tradition during the
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Last edited Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:21 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) holidays to the children. It had an impact on me and them. Especially the last line which still brings tears, confronted by those today who refuse the humanity of others:
“Spirit,” said Scrooge, with an interest he had never felt before, “tell me if Tiny Tim will live.” “I see a vacant seat,” replied the Ghost, “in the poor chimney-corner, and a crutch without an owner, carefully preserved. If these shadows remain unaltered by the Future, the child will die.” “No, no,” said Scrooge. “Oh, no, kind Spirit! say he will be spared.” “If these shadows remain unaltered by the Future, none other of my race,” returned the Ghost, “will find him here. 'What then? If he be like to die, he had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.'” Scrooge hung his head to hear his own words quoted by the Spirit, and was overcome with penitence and grief. “Man,” said the Ghost, “if man you be in heart, not adamant, forbear that wicked cant until you have discovered What the surplus is, and Where it is. Will you decide what men shall live, what men shall die? It may be, that in the sight of Heaven, you are more worthless and less fit to live than millions like this poor man’s child. Oh God! to hear the Insect on the leaf pronouncing on the too much life among his hungry brothers in the dust!” Thanks for posting this, as this book has always been linked to the holidays for me. |
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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:52 PM
Philosoraptor (15,019 posts)
18. ............
Response to Philosoraptor (Reply #18)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:58 PM
Hissyspit (40,090 posts)
19. Kick...
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Tue Dec 25, 2012, 03:50 AM
defacto7 (3,367 posts)
20. What a brilliant writer
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and a seer of the human condition in all it's glory and degradation... then and now.
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Tue Dec 25, 2012, 04:56 PM
Odin2005 (48,255 posts)
21. That scene always makes me lose it!
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Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:39 PM
aint_no_life_nowhere (18,936 posts)
22. I love the moments of redemption, too
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Scrooge is a hard-hearted miser who cares nothing for the poor or his fellow human beings in general, but turns into a real human being at the end. There's hope even for someone like him.
My favorite scene in the 1951 movie version is Scrooge's visit to the house of the nephew on whom he turned his back. It's a beautiful scene of apology and forgiveness that almost always brings a tear. And there's that beautiful rendition of "Barbara Allen" in the background. By the way, the brief though wonderful performance of the lowly little maid in that scene in which she communicates so much emotion without a single word spoken is uncredited but is said to be a very young Audrey Hepburn in her first film role (although I can't confirm it on her imdb website). https:// |

