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Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:31 PM

Watching Wes Clark on MSNBC ... I miss him!

I've only volunteered for one presidential campaign, and it was for Wes Clark. To some people, it seemed an odd thing since I'm very liberal (a Bernie Sanders Social Democrat). But I genuinely like and trust Clark, that's something I cannot say about any other politician except Sanders. Watching him talk to Alex Witt, hearing his clarity and excellent knowledge of foreign affairs, it's such a shame that he's not in public service.

Witt asked him what he thought about Hillary running in 2016. He was very supportive, and listed a whole lot of reasons why she would be the most prepared person he knows for the job. It sure sounded like an endorsement!

Does anyone know what he's up to these days?

Today is his birthday. Happy birthday General Wes!

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Reply Watching Wes Clark on MSNBC ... I miss him! (Original post)
shireen Dec 2012 OP
CherokeeDem Dec 2012 #1
MightyMopar Dec 2012 #2
tblue Dec 2012 #3
shireen Dec 2012 #7
LibGranny Dec 2012 #4
shireen Dec 2012 #10
indepat Dec 2012 #26
rainlillie Dec 2012 #5
shireen Dec 2012 #8
rainlillie Dec 2012 #9
shireen Dec 2012 #11
gulliver Dec 2012 #6
elleng Dec 2012 #23
JNelson6563 Dec 2012 #12
Cosmocat Dec 2012 #13
pasto76 Dec 2012 #14
elleng Dec 2012 #22
Evergreen Emerald Dec 2012 #15
Texin Dec 2012 #17
DFW Dec 2012 #25
Texin Dec 2012 #16
karynnj Dec 2012 #29
senseandsensibility Dec 2012 #18
LovingA2andMI Dec 2012 #19
elleng Dec 2012 #20
Ilsa Dec 2012 #21
CherokeeDem Dec 2012 #24
piechartking Dec 2012 #27
morningfog Dec 2012 #28
hfojvt Dec 2012 #30
shireen Dec 2012 #31

Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:36 PM

1. I like Wes Clark as well...

I had the pleasure of meeting him briefly when he ran for president. He stopped into a caucus group at the Florida Democratic Convention...I was very impressed with him. I really wish he would have a higher profile...I miss seeing him.

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Response to CherokeeDem (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:39 PM

2. I like Wes too

 

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:40 PM

3. I volunteered for him too!

Any chance you volunteered in the Manchester hq in 2004?

I heard he was working on that reality tv show, which irked me but, hey, it's a job, and the General never was wealthy. I do dearly love him, too, and I listen closely to anything he says. He is so honest, honorable, and patriotic, in the finest sense of the word.

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Response to tblue (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:48 PM

7. I was with the Maryland campaign.

We were a small group, but very enthusiastic.

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:41 PM

4. I'd like to see GEN Clark as SECDEF!

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Response to LibGranny (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:57 PM

10. me too!

I'm not sure how he's regarded by the Obama administration. I remember he did campaign for Obama in 2008.

Wes Clark knows where the skeletons are buried in the Pentagon, and if anyone knows how to reduce the defense budget, he's the man. That would make him very unpopular with the military industrial complex, who are probably major campaign donors for both parties.

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Response to LibGranny (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 05:07 PM

26. A resounding second to that!

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:44 PM

5. I liked him too, but hosting that lame show "Stars Earn Stripes' on NBC

hurt his credibility IMO.

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Response to rainlillie (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:49 PM

8. i never saw it

Hope it wasn't too bad.

On the other hand, sounds like the General wanted to have a bit of fun and earn a few dollars.

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Response to shireen (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:55 PM

9. Todd Palin and Dean Cain were among the contestants playing dress up.

It was pretty controversial, there were petitions calling for it to be canceled.

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Response to rainlillie (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:00 PM

11. LOL! Sounds like a way to get name recognition for a whole new demographics! nt

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:48 PM

6. I'm a Clarkie

I worked for his campaign too. Still have a Clark '04 button on my nightstand and a baseball cap in the closet. I would love to see him as SecDef.

Happy Birthday, General!

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Response to gulliver (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:21 PM

23. Hey gulliver, I'm a Clarkie too,

and keep finding memorabilia among my treasured things!

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:05 PM

12. Happy birthday General!

A lovely pic of Wes with Hillary, is it me or are Dems just a generally good looking bunch?



Julie

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:51 PM

13. Good man

wish he could land someplace of significance to do some good.

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:19 PM

14. general clark is no fool. Ive never read anything from him that I didnt eventually realize he was ri

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Response to pasto76 (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:20 PM

22. Darn right, pasto; he's always right.

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:42 PM

15. I like him as well

He seemed to leave politics after the failed Presidential bid, even less visible than Howard Dean. I often wondered why he was not utilized more in this administration.

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Response to Evergreen Emerald (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:05 PM

17. Dean has hardly been invisible. He's been a staple on MSNBC and ran the DNC after his

failed presidential bid for awhile, but I believe the Clintonites and McAuliffe got him kicked out of that right before '08. I might have that wrong, but they definitely were wanting to pack the DNC and DLC with establishment politicos, and Dean was considered to be an outlier to the establishment of which the likes of the Clintons, Gore and Kerry belong.

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Response to Texin (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:34 PM

25. Before '08??? not quite

Howard was DNC chairman during the whole '08 campaign. Under his guidance we decisively took solid majorities in both houses of Congress--an achievement that has eluded us since the first election held after he left. Howard told me that a sitting president is the leader of his party, not the party committee chairman. Howard was a brilliant "wartime" DNC chairman, but when "his work was done," his place SHOULD have been as a cabinet member. Rahm killed that--to Obama's detriment, I think. Howard might have stayed on had Obama begged him to, but with Rahm whispering in his ear all day, that wasn't gonna happen.

I haven't seen Wes Clark for a few years, but I like him very much. He is THE brightest guy I have ever met in uniform. I know he always had a few projects in the fire, but I haven't kept up on them. As for SECDEF, it is traditional to have a civilian in that post, and I doubt that his retired status would be distance enough, even if he were interested.

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:01 PM

16. I like Clarke too. I like him for SecDef (and he's half Jewish to boot!).

Here's an alternative for the post that would take Hagel out. Wouldn't his service as the Supreme NATO Commander (I think I got that right) not stand in him in good stead with the senators that would need to confirm him?

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Response to Texin (Reply #16)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:46 PM

29. He is not half Jewish - unless you are using definitions not accepted in the Jewish world

If you consider being Jewish a religion, would you call a person half Catholic if he were raised by two Lutherns and his biological dad were Catholic?

If you are going by Jewish law, the religion of the mother determines if he is Jewish. In Clark's case this was not true.

The other thing is that he doesn't consider himself Jewish -- nor for that matter does John Kerry, whose paternal genealogy includes a Jewish grandmother and grandfather.

I assume that being head of NATO certainly makes him qualified. It may be that he and Obama are not close or that Clark does not want to take on a job like this. None of us really know him or how he relates to Obama.

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:05 PM

18. Happy Birthday, General!

I like him too, and think he should be given a position in the administration.

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:16 PM

19. For sure Happy Birthday General Wes!

Your point of view has been MISSED! Enjoy your B-Day!

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:17 PM

20. Great that you saw it, Shireen; I missed most of the show.



AND, Wes is pretty darn liberal, too!

Been working on a variety of businesses, promoting clean energy, etc.

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:19 PM

21. Happy Birthday Gen. Clark! I would

Love to see him run with Hillary.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #21)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:26 PM

24. Ooh...

I was thinking Gov. O'Malley of MD but I like the idea of Clark as well....

We've got some good Dems to pick from...

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:37 PM

27. My first campaign was with the Clark campaign...in Tennessee. I always felt that -

- if we had run someone with Clark's credentials against Bush, and you peeled off a few Southern states (as you could have with Clark), you would have won!

He was so smart!

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:40 PM

28. Clinton/Clark 2016?

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Response to shireen (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:25 PM

30. kind of a shame that he endorsed Hillary

but not surprising.

I was a supporter too in 2004, but didn't like his tax plan.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #30)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:11 AM

31. he did not explicitly use the word "endorse"

He spoke very highly of her. I guess some people may have interpreted it as an endorsement, but I think it was an "almost."

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