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Sat Dec 22, 2012, 10:48 PM

The Oregon Mall Shooter and my visit to the mall with my family.

On December 11, Jacob Tyler Roberts went into Clackamas Town Center Mall and started shooting with an AR-15. He killed 2 people, wounded a 3rd before killing himself. This mall is about 1 mile from my house so we go here relatively often, maybe once a month or so. When the shooting happened, we heard the police and emergency vehicles responding and later the news helicopters flying over our house. Because this one one was so close to us, I had to explain to my 8 year old daughter what happened at the mall. She asked why someone would do that and I said I don't know. How do you explain why a person goes on a killing spree to an 8 year old?

Then Adam Lanza decided to use an AR-15 to kill 20 kids and 7 adults before killing himself. My daughter asked me again, why would someone do that? I told her I don't know. Then her teacher had to explain to her class why they're safe at their school.

Tonight, we went to Clackamas Town Center Mall. My daughter was very apprehensive and scared as we entered the mall at the food court. We walked through the mall to the bookstore and she was clinging to mom. The poor girl thinks it will happen again while we were there. Of course, she doesn't understand that the odds of something like that happening while we were there are very small. But try telling that to an 8 year old....

(Thank God I didn't have to tell her about the Aurora, CO theater shooting as she'd probably never want to go see a movie again.)

But the point of this is that gun violence has got to stop. Twice in 1 week I had to explain to an 8 year old why some asshole with a gun goes on a killing spree. That's 2 times too much. It has to stop.

It wasn't like this in my childhood. What the hell has changed in America? Why are guns so important to us? Is it ever going to change? For the sake of my daughter and children everywhere, I hope so. I'm sick of this.

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Reply The Oregon Mall Shooter and my visit to the mall with my family. (Original post)
neverforget Dec 2012 OP
CurtEastPoint Dec 2012 #1
Berserker Dec 2012 #8
cantbeserious Dec 2012 #2
riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #3
neverforget Dec 2012 #5
calimary Dec 2012 #6
Berserker Dec 2012 #9
neverforget Dec 2012 #10
MichiganVote Dec 2012 #4
neverforget Dec 2012 #7
MichiganVote Dec 2012 #11
neverforget Dec 2012 #12

Response to neverforget (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 10:52 PM

1. As a child of the 50's I wonder the same damn thing. What happened to make people so...

crazy about guns? I mean, rifles and hunting are one thing but jeebus...this obsession w/machine guns and stuff. It's just sickening.

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:46 PM

8. Gee let me think ummmm

 

I am also a child of the 50s and we grew up with The Rifleman, The Rebel, Wagon Train, Have GUN will Travel, Maverick, Gun smoke, The Lone Ranger, Roy Rogers, Gene Autry, Bonanza, Hundreds of war films just to name a few. And what do they all have in common? Guns. We all had guns then cap guns, BB guns, Pop guns and I even had the same toy gun as the rifleman and would try to beat him every week when he came on. I had a toy gun belt with a 6 shooter on each hip. And you wonder why we are so obsessed with guns?

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Response to neverforget (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 10:53 PM

2. Go Ask Wayne LaPierre And All The NRA And Gun Apologists

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Response to neverforget (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 10:59 PM

3. look up Oath Keepers And Age of Treason

It was in Mother Jones March/April 2010

You will understand how crazy America is getting. 300 million Americans. 314 million guns. How can this be?

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:03 PM

5. I know. I keep posting 300 million guns are we safe yet?

It's frustrating to think that some (NRA, Gun Owners of America, etc) think that the answer to gun violence is more guns. Is the answer to flu, more flu?

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Response to neverforget (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:28 PM

6. Yeah. Enough guns to arm everyone in America. Oh yeah, I feel safer alright.



Hair of the dog that shot you. Makes NO sense whatsoever. More guns? Arm schools and teachers to the teeth? Well, how'd that work out for the victims of Fort Hood?

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Response to neverforget (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:52 PM

9. Yup flu vacine

 

is actually flu shot that contains killed (inactive) viruses.

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Response to Berserker (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:54 PM

10. Can we make the guns inactive too?

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Response to neverforget (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:00 PM

4. Because guns are big business dear. Think they care about your 8yr old? Hardly.

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Response to MichiganVote (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:33 PM

7. They care about her until she can be armed as an adult.

Guns are big business.

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Response to neverforget (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:09 PM

11. They spend big bucks marketing to kids thru parents, esp. mothers, now.

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Response to MichiganVote (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:13 PM

12. Thanks to ALEC, the NRA, Republicans and some Democrats

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