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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:32 AM Dec 2012

As far as I'm concerned, it's simple: Ban high capacity magazines, ban

assault weapons again. Institute background checks for guns purchased at gun shows. Those measures should occur on a federal level.

Will it solve everything? Of course not, but it's a good start. And it says, we are determined to do something.

Let's get it done.

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As far as I'm concerned, it's simple: Ban high capacity magazines, ban (Original Post) cali Dec 2012 OP
I agree. What would we do regarding internet purchases? Little Star Dec 2012 #1
Guns should be traded through real dealers in a store Kolesar Dec 2012 #3
bought a hand gun on the internet Duckhunter935 Dec 2012 #4
"Wait " you mean you can't just have the gun shipped right to your home... former-republican Dec 2012 #6
I had them shipped to my home Mec9000 Dec 2012 #7
That's right: it's illegal unless you hold a Federal Firearms License. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #10
Deer hunters could get by with bolt action rifles Kolesar Dec 2012 #2
I don't understand allowing clips at all. denverbill Dec 2012 #5
I agree with these Common Sense regulations. bvar22 Dec 2012 #8
All firearms transactions should be subject to the NICS background check. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #9

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
3. Guns should be traded through real dealers in a store
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:51 AM
Dec 2012

The market price on the internet is going to fall, but T. S. There is a public safety issue here.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
4. bought a hand gun on the internet
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 10:03 AM
Dec 2012

had to go to an FFL dealer to pick it up and have a background check done.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
6. "Wait " you mean you can't just have the gun shipped right to your home...
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:12 AM
Dec 2012

I was told by many here it happens all over the internet.

You mean there's an actual law about internet gun sales.....



Someone fibbed to me here...




 

Mec9000

(51 posts)
7. I had them shipped to my home
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:24 AM
Dec 2012

but I had an 03 FFL (curio and relic).. The amount of mis information on this board is amazing. They also have no interest in learning yet they want to write laws. It is scary..

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
10. That's right: it's illegal unless you hold a Federal Firearms License.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:50 PM
Dec 2012

Those licenses used to be very easy to get, but that was changed years ago. Now the only people to have the "standard" (not Curio and Relic only, which is only usable for very old, antique guns) FFL are those who are indeed truly in business. No more "coffee table" FFL dealers out there...

Non-FFL holders have to take delivery of their purchase through an FFL dealer, who must perform the federally-required background check and any other locally-mandated steps. In other words, these sales are subject to the same regulations as most other sales (and more so than are required between private individuals face-to-face).

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
2. Deer hunters could get by with bolt action rifles
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:50 AM
Dec 2012

The only applications for those rapidly reloading military style weapons is either a hormonal thrill at the rifle range or protection for racketeers. Deer hunters are basically snipers and are not pursuing their pray and trying to kill them as they run away.

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
5. I don't understand allowing clips at all.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:05 AM
Dec 2012

High capacity or low capacity. If Lanza had 20 clips with 10 rounds, he would have still been damned near as deadly.

Make people reload every shot or two, by hand.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
8. I agree with these Common Sense regulations.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:12 PM
Dec 2012

Only a complete idiot who has never been In-the-Woods would claim they they need an Assault Rifle or High Capacity Magazines for "hunting".

Only an idiot who has watched too many Zombie Apocalypse movies and has completely lost touch with reality would claim they need an assault rifle or High Capacity magazines for "Home Protection".










 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
9. All firearms transactions should be subject to the NICS background check.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:45 PM
Dec 2012

This includes those between private individuals at gun shows and everywhere else. It would be a relatively simple matter to provide access to the NICS system online to private persons for this purpose. It would require giving your SSN to someone you were buying a gun from (and thus subject to being recorded by a keylogger, etc...), but I see that as simply a motivator to make sure you're not doing a firearms transaction with someone you think is shady.

This is no panacea. obviously. A lot of people would simply blow off the requirement...and habitual, career criminals wouldn't comply (because they'd be turned down, obviously). But it would be a way for private individual selling a gun to have greater confidence they were selling it to a responsible person.

I'd also like to see certain types of mental illness diagnoses added to the NICS database. Not all types, of course. The majority of diagnoses in the DSM-IV would be no bar to firearms ownership. But some certainly should be, and I think a panel of mental healthcare experts could determine which those are. While laws regarding medical records would have to be modified to do this, confidentiality would not be an issue, as the database only returns a "yes/no" answer to the query...nothing more.

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