Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:32 AM
cali (80,191 posts)
As far as I'm concerned, it's simple: Ban high capacity magazines, ban
assault weapons again. Institute background checks for guns purchased at gun shows. Those measures should occur on a federal level.
Will it solve everything? Of course not, but it's a good start. And it says, we are determined to do something. Let's get it done.
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10 replies, 494 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| cali | Dec 2012 | OP | |
| Little Star | Dec 2012 | #1 | |
| Kolesar | Dec 2012 | #3 | |
| Duckhunter935 | Dec 2012 | #4 | |
| former-republican | Dec 2012 | #6 | |
| Mec9000 | Dec 2012 | #7 | |
| Lizzie Poppet | Dec 2012 | #10 | |
| Kolesar | Dec 2012 | #2 | |
| denverbill | Dec 2012 | #5 | |
| bvar22 | Dec 2012 | #8 | |
| Lizzie Poppet | Dec 2012 | #9 |
Response to cali (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:37 AM
Little Star (11,646 posts)
1. I agree. What would we do regarding internet purchases?
Response to Little Star (Reply #1)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:51 AM
Kolesar (29,322 posts)
3. Guns should be traded through real dealers in a store
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The market price on the internet is going to fall, but T. S. There is a public safety issue here.
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Response to Little Star (Reply #1)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:03 AM
Duckhunter935 (1,290 posts)
4. bought a hand gun on the internet
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had to go to an FFL dealer to pick it up and have a background check done.
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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #4)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 10:12 AM
former-republican (2,163 posts)
6. "Wait " you mean you can't just have the gun shipped right to your home...
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I was told by many here it happens all over the internet.
You mean there's an actual law about internet gun sales..... Someone fibbed to me here... |
Response to former-republican (Reply #6)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 10:24 AM
Mec9000 (51 posts)
7. I had them shipped to my home
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but I had an 03 FFL (curio and relic).. The amount of mis information on this board is amazing. They also have no interest in learning yet they want to write laws. It is scary..
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Response to former-republican (Reply #6)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:50 PM
Lizzie Poppet (2,354 posts)
10. That's right: it's illegal unless you hold a Federal Firearms License.
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Those licenses used to be very easy to get, but that was changed years ago. Now the only people to have the "standard" (not Curio and Relic only, which is only usable for very old, antique guns) FFL are those who are indeed truly in business. No more "coffee table" FFL dealers out there...
Non-FFL holders have to take delivery of their purchase through an FFL dealer, who must perform the federally-required background check and any other locally-mandated steps. In other words, these sales are subject to the same regulations as most other sales (and more so than are required between private individuals face-to-face). |
Response to cali (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:50 AM
Kolesar (29,322 posts)
2. Deer hunters could get by with bolt action rifles
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The only applications for those rapidly reloading military style weapons is either a hormonal thrill at the rifle range or protection for racketeers. Deer hunters are basically snipers and are not pursuing their pray and trying to kill them as they run away.
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Response to cali (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 10:05 AM
denverbill (10,510 posts)
5. I don't understand allowing clips at all.
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High capacity or low capacity. If Lanza had 20 clips with 10 rounds, he would have still been damned near as deadly.
Make people reload every shot or two, by hand. |
Response to cali (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:12 PM
bvar22 (29,521 posts)
8. I agree with these Common Sense regulations.
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Only a complete idiot who has never been In-the-Woods would claim they they need an Assault Rifle or High Capacity Magazines for "hunting".
Only an idiot who has watched too many Zombie Apocalypse movies and has completely lost touch with reality would claim they need an assault rifle or High Capacity magazines for "Home Protection". |
Response to cali (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:45 PM
Lizzie Poppet (2,354 posts)
9. All firearms transactions should be subject to the NICS background check.
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This includes those between private individuals at gun shows and everywhere else. It would be a relatively simple matter to provide access to the NICS system online to private persons for this purpose. It would require giving your SSN to someone you were buying a gun from (and thus subject to being recorded by a keylogger, etc...), but I see that as simply a motivator to make sure you're not doing a firearms transaction with someone you think is shady.
This is no panacea. obviously. A lot of people would simply blow off the requirement...and habitual, career criminals wouldn't comply (because they'd be turned down, obviously). But it would be a way for private individual selling a gun to have greater confidence they were selling it to a responsible person. I'd also like to see certain types of mental illness diagnoses added to the NICS database. Not all types, of course. The majority of diagnoses in the DSM-IV would be no bar to firearms ownership. But some certainly should be, and I think a panel of mental healthcare experts could determine which those are. While laws regarding medical records would have to be modified to do this, confidentiality would not be an issue, as the database only returns a "yes/no" answer to the query...nothing more. |

