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Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:53 AM

What Obama said Yesterday (SS is on the table)

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"As of today, I am still ready and willing to get a comprehensive package done." - President Obama 12/21/2012

Seems to me, Social Security is on the table.


Full transcript: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-obamas-remarks-on-the-fiscal-cliff--delivered-dec-21-2012-transcript/2012/12/21/2411fcc4-4bb6-11e2-a6a6-aabac85e8036_story.html

If someone has the actual deal broken into line items from the White House, I'd love to see it.

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grahamhgreen Dec 2012 OP
cliffordu Dec 2012 #1
TDale313 Dec 2012 #2
uponit7771 Dec 2012 #3
SunsetDreams Dec 2012 #4
AAO Dec 2012 #7
treestar Dec 2012 #14
Agnosticsherbet Dec 2012 #5
Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #6
John2 Dec 2012 #8
plethoro Dec 2012 #9
grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #13
democrattotheend Dec 2012 #15
plethoro Dec 2012 #20
freedom fighter jh Dec 2012 #10
grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #16
freedom fighter jh Dec 2012 #19
woo me with science Dec 2012 #21
grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #22
Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #11
wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #12
dionysus Dec 2012 #17
grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #18

Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:58 AM

1. Ah!!! You're right!!!

DISPAIR is the order of the day!!!!

More politics 101 over the head of soooo many here.

Tragic, really.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:59 AM

2. Sadly, once again...

I think we may end up having to thank the tea party nuts in the house for not being willing to take yes for an answer. Your guess is as good as mine whether that was President Obama's plan all along.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:59 AM

3. Obama also has four under arms ... www.JustMakeSomeBullShitUp.com

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:00 AM

4. No just the words comprehensive package

does not mean that "Social Security is on the table." That is a stretch IMO.

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Response to SunsetDreams (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 04:41 AM

7. Comprehensive is one way of saying "all inclusive", so yes it is on the table.

 

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Response to SunsetDreams (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:48 PM

14. +1

This claim is ridiculous.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:08 AM

5. The President does not mention Social Security in the transcript.

So your concusion may be hasty

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:51 AM

6. Yup,

It is and always was on the table. This is why we need to continue to write & call our Congress types to keep it off the table.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 05:06 AM

8. There is

 

no way this lame duck Congress will get a comprehensive Deal. The Deal they can reasonably do right now is pass the Senate Bill on extending taxcuts and continuing unemployment benefits if the Republicans got any decency. They can let the rest of the cuts take effect and let the incoming Congress take care of it. There are 25 new members coming in.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 05:18 AM

9. Yes. It is. ANd whether he cuts Social Security before the end of

 

the year, or does it next year, should he do it in any way, shape or form, it will end the chance of taking the House in 2014, and probably winning the Presidency in 2016. The Republican down the street says earler today: "Looks like Obama is going to cut Social Security. That's all we need to get him out of there..." These were pretty close to his exact words. Politics 101? No. Betrayal 301.

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Response to plethoro (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:47 PM

13. You are right, cutting social security will kill our chances in 2014, and beyond.

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Response to plethoro (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:49 PM

15. "Get him out of there?"

Uh, it's a little late for that.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:38 PM

20. Yeah, I don't know what he meant. But I didn't stay to question what he meant. I didn't want to know

 

what he meant.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 06:04 AM

10. I'm with Sunset Dreams.

"Comprehensive package" seems to mean just that it deals with everything -- tax rates and spending both, I guess.

Does that mean social security is safe? No, it just doesn't mean anything.

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Response to freedom fighter jh (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:50 PM

16. I would love to see a bullet point breakdown of the deals, publicly available,

I voted against smoke filled rooms and secret deals.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 06:22 PM

19. So would I. nt

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:41 PM

21. This is not exceptionally detailed,

but it is disturbing as hell:

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #21)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:30 AM

22. OMFG. I guess social security is on the table! Wait, it IS the table!

Seriously, that needs to be an OP! Have you posted it as an OP? May I?

This is the crux of the negotiations broken down in a manner every American can understand, from a reliable source (WaPo).

We are is shock doctrine land - cutting SS has nothing tot do with the deficit, yet it's one of the largest portions of the package - and where is the war budget?

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 06:13 AM

11. Of course it is still on the table

 

and it is the main course for all the R's and the POTUS, I absolutely and unequivocally do not trust President Obama to not cut SS.

Anyone who does trust him is going to be very disappointed.

The ONLY thing that should be on the table is the DoD Budget and not the part that covers vets, they have already cut that and the new budget cuts it even more.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 06:51 AM

12. k & r! nt

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:50 PM

17. sometimes i feel that you guys are desperate to be right about SS being cut.

after 4 years of this one gets that impresssion.

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Response to dionysus (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:11 PM

18. So, Obama put SS on the table b/c he wants to save it, and prog's defend it b/c we want it cut?

Listen, I really want you to be right about SS, can you send a link to the White House clearly stating SS will not be cut?

Something like this:




Nice Jerry pic, BTW, I just saw Bobby and Jackson Browne at the Troubador 2 nights ago!

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