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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:42 PM

Wayne LaPierre Speech Was A Total Public Relations Disaster, Say PR Experts

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Public relations experts who have experience working with the gun industry expressed horror on Friday afternoon at the National Rifle Association's response to the Newtown, Conn., shootings.

The group's executive vice president, Wayne LaPierre, struck a scolding tone on Friday, blaming the video game industry and media for exposing youth to a culture of violence, and calling for armed police or security guards in schools: "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," LaPierre said.

Public relations professionals reached by The Huffington Post said the timing of his message, which broke a week of silence in the wake of the tragic murder of 26 children and adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School, could be an irredeemable mistake for the group.

“It was worse than if the NRA had not spoken at all,” said Gene Grabowski, executive vice president of Levick Strategic Communications, a Washington, D.C.-based issues management firm that has worked with firearms manufacturers. "The same message about the culture in another time and place might have made sense, but in context of tragedy, it seemed mean-spirited, cold and misguided."


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Reply Wayne LaPierre Speech Was A Total Public Relations Disaster, Say PR Experts (Original post)
hlthe2b Dec 2012 OP
TheCowsCameHome Dec 2012 #1
Major Nikon Dec 2012 #37
alp227 Dec 2012 #42
paleotn Dec 2012 #59
JBoy Dec 2012 #2
Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #3
spanone Dec 2012 #4
Cha Dec 2012 #5
renie408 Dec 2012 #6
Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #7
Crunchy Frog Dec 2012 #8
EmeraldCityGrl Dec 2012 #9
WillyT Dec 2012 #10
Cobalt-60 Dec 2012 #17
TDale313 Dec 2012 #30
mhilburn Dec 2012 #18
Marie Marie Dec 2012 #21
Care Acutely Dec 2012 #27
senseandsensibility Dec 2012 #53
calimary Dec 2012 #66
coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #36
paleotn Dec 2012 #60
LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #40
Zoeisright Dec 2012 #43
Bozita Dec 2012 #11
AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #12
agentS Dec 2012 #13
ellisonz Dec 2012 #29
uponit7771 Dec 2012 #33
salin Dec 2012 #46
tblue37 Dec 2012 #47
NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #56
RomneyLies Dec 2012 #14
AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #15
alfredo Dec 2012 #16
mountain grammy Dec 2012 #19
laundry_queen Dec 2012 #62
dionysus Dec 2012 #20
Liberalagogo Dec 2012 #22
Marie Marie Dec 2012 #23
yewberry Dec 2012 #24
agent46 Dec 2012 #25
Kennah Dec 2012 #26
raquel69 Dec 2012 #28
Kennah Dec 2012 #31
Leopolds Ghost Dec 2012 #34
yellowcanine Dec 2012 #35
exboyfil Dec 2012 #38
Hippo_Tron Dec 2012 #45
JDPriestly Dec 2012 #49
Kennah Dec 2012 #54
Leopolds Ghost Dec 2012 #55
Kennah Dec 2012 #61
calimary Dec 2012 #67
Dems to Win Dec 2012 #32
exboyfil Dec 2012 #39
DianaForRussFeingold Dec 2012 #44
Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #41
JDPriestly Dec 2012 #48
DFW Dec 2012 #64
Kaleva Dec 2012 #50
Cleita Dec 2012 #51
Initech Dec 2012 #52
Care Acutely Dec 2012 #57
napkinz Dec 2012 #58
love_katz Dec 2012 #63
calimary Dec 2012 #68
dorkulon Dec 2012 #65
NoGOPZone Dec 2012 #69
farminator3000 Dec 2012 #70
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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:54 PM

1. It's the best he's got.

The demented fuckwad just can't help himself.

The NRA is a sinking scow.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:59 PM

37. Actually I don't think so

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #37)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:44 PM

42. Need that extra slash to see the actual desktop (not mobile) site:

http://wonkette.com/453659/nra-chief-obama-trying-to-steal-your-guns-by-not-stealing-your-guns/

And Mike Malloy mocked LaPierre's "Obama taking away guns" paranoia:

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Response to alp227 (Reply #42)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:38 PM

59. paranoia to our ears....

...but I bet it sold a whole lot of guns and ammo. That is what the NRA is all about after all. A propaganda operation for their corporate masters. Kind of a familiar theme, isn't it.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:03 PM

2. He was speaking from his cold, dead heart. nt

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:05 PM

3. It was a pitiful performance for sure. nt

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:06 PM

4. i couldn't be happier.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:16 PM

5. Of course it was.. getting Wayne out there before the cameras to do his

speech was the best thing for reforming America's gun safety.

United people against the NRA instead of anyone gettng fooled that they gave a shit about the poor kids and their protectors, who were slaughtered.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:18 PM

6. That is EXACTLY what I said!! I should be a PR expert!

I said that the NRA had drastically mistaken public opinion on this one.

And I was right. They really screwed the pooch in that presser.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:28 PM

7. Bullshit it doesn't make sense now and it won't make sense ten years from now.

LaPierre was/is doing nothing but maintaining an ongoing domestic arms race.

Thanks for the thread, hlthe.



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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:30 PM

8. Good.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:31 PM

9. Lawrence O'Donnell buried him tonight.

Didn't fail to mention LaPierre, another repuke that didn't want to carry a gun
during the VN war.

"Wayne LaPierre, CEO of the National Rifle Association - did not serve (apparently pulled lottery #97 in 1969 as a campus radical at SUNY-Albany, but weaseled out by getting a family doctor to claim he had a nervous disorder)."

I wonder how many of these war weapon fanatics never served, never saw what soldiers witness or learned what can
only be learned on the battlefield or in training.

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Response to EmeraldCityGrl (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:42 PM

10. I Saw That... It Was AWESOME !!!




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Response to EmeraldCityGrl (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:01 AM

17. Because if they had served at all

much less in combat they would know that war is not desirable.
The louder they yell for war, the less they know about it.

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Response to Cobalt-60 (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:59 AM

30. Absolutely. n/t

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Response to EmeraldCityGrl (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:10 AM

18. yike

If he had a nervous disorder, he should not be allowed to be around guns in peacetime. If he's not allowed to be in the army with his condition, he certainly shouldn't be allowed a "carry" permit and a million dollar salary to front for gun groups.

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Response to mhilburn (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:14 AM

21. BINGO!!! +1000

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Response to mhilburn (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:22 AM

27. He belongs on the registry HE would subject innocent people to.

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Response to mhilburn (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 10:32 PM

53. What you said.

And welcome to DU.

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Response to mhilburn (Reply #18)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 06:45 PM

66. Welcome to DU, mhilburn!

Glad you're here! Lawrence O'Donnell was utterly SCATHING!!! BLISTERING!!!!! Nothing more or less than this murderous NRA schmuck deserves.

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Response to EmeraldCityGrl (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:53 PM

36. Like Cheney, LaPierre had 'other priorities'. Typical upper-middle-class

 

Fortunate Son fuckwad.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #36)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:55 PM

60. Exactly!

Here's an oldie, but a goodie.

http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html

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Response to EmeraldCityGrl (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:58 PM

40. If he had a nervious disorder

what is the likelihood that there is something wrong with him mentally and he would qualify to be on that database prohibited from owning firearms?

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Response to EmeraldCityGrl (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 06:13 PM

43. If that piece of shit had a "nervous disorder" during Vietnam,

he should be on the list of mentally ill gun humpers want and shouldn't be able to own a gun now.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:43 PM

11. That title line wins the "No Shit, Sherlock!" award for the current month

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:48 PM

12. That Face should be made into a Halloween Mask

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:53 PM

13. I don't think he was talking to us (the public)

It sounded more like he was demonstrating the NRA's commitment to psycho (not normal) gun owners.
I don't know the gun crowd that well, so YMMY on the effectiveness of his speech.

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Response to agentS (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:25 AM

29. +1

I think Wayne LaPierre knows nobody but the extremists believe his bullshit.

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Response to agentS (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:04 AM

33. +1!

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Response to agentS (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:13 PM

46. Worse yet... he was lobbying on behalf of gun manufacturers

to sell more of the weapons to the hard-core gun enthusiasts (and if they can leverage selling more high powered guns to their local schools - all the better for their patrons - per profits.)

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Response to salin (Reply #46)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:22 PM

47. Unfortunately, these a**holes are reaching

the audience they are aiming for.

Gun sales--especially of the most deadly kind--and ammunition sales--especially of the "massacre magazine" types--are up drastically over these past few days, because the gun extremists are terrified that they might not be able to buy them later.

The local rag reported today that these guns and clips are flying off the shelves of the stores that sell such things in our area.

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Response to agentS (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:54 AM

56. Shades of Romney at the NAACP and Ryan at the AARP...

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:53 PM

14. BRAVO to Wayne LaPierre

 

The piece of shit just did more to insure sensible gun regulations singlehandedly than thirty years of the Brady Center.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:06 PM

15. Sorry pal

Your days and your ways are numbered.

Soulless asshole.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:42 PM

16. He's just a front man for the gun industry. He's their hired gun.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:11 AM

19. To think of the last minutes of those kids' lives, then to see Wayne LaPierre

spouting his shit fills me with more hatred and disgust than I though possible.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:51 AM

62. Ditto. He makes me want to vomit. Sick fuck. nt

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:14 AM

20. spot on review, LaPierre is a sick bastard

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:15 AM

22. "The same message about the culture in another time and place might have made sense...."

No, I don't think so, you effing jackass.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:17 AM

23. ONG - He was just awful.

Considering the timing of his little speech, this man could not pry even 1 compassionate statement from his cold dead heart.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:28 AM

24. Guardian UK nailed it: So defensive it was downright offensive.

I can't believe that they had the gall to play the victim regarding "all the noise and anger directed at us over the past week."

Pathologically self-involved.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:53 AM

25. The answer

...to our cultural sickness is a siege mentality? I don't think so.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:19 AM

26. As an NRA Life Member, I shake my head and wonder if he's actually pushing for new gun control laws.

Grover Poopyhead, who's on the NRA BOD, and who isn't going to stand for any tax increases, would never agree to 100K plus new cops on the federal dime. Of course, that could be paid for out of the Defense budget, and they'd never miss it. Hell, put 4 cops in every school, and it's still just a fraction of the Defense budget.

I'll be curious to see the trend of polls of the American people, but I suspect they are going to have a WTF reaction.

He perhaps helped in the passage of a new "assault weapon ban", but since they aren't real bans it's of little consequence. I suppose it could be the road to a real ban of semiautomatics, which could make a real difference, but I would not bet on it any time soon.

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Response to Kennah (Reply #26)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:24 AM

28. We don't need 4 cops at every school

yet we are living in a new reality where we need to improve school security because a few killers will target them. Just like we did with airports after 9-11 IMO.

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Response to raquel69 (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:01 AM

31. We have a choice in the U.S. on gun control--Canada or Israel

Both have restrictive laws, but they are very, very different.

The confiscations and disarming of Canadians through banning semiautomatics hardly seems likely here. The Australia and the UK also follow this path. Each of those countries had a far lower violent crime rate even before they imposed draconian gun laws.

The Israelis have security everywhere because they are in a state of war, which we are as well. As such, I think we stand a better chance by follow the Israeli model, which means a lot of very restrictive licensing, psych tests, etc. Oh one can carry a gun for protection there. We should continue that as well, but it needs to be "hardened". This is also a much more expensive route, but perhaps it will take that for us to realize we need to start changing.

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Response to Kennah (Reply #31)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:20 AM

34. We are in a state of war? Really?

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Response to Leopolds Ghost (Reply #34)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:40 PM

35. I noticed that also. Israel is in a state of war. Canada isn't. The U.S. isn't. Therefore we

should follow the Israeli model rather than the Canadian model. Perfectly logical to me.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #35)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:24 PM

38. Or we continue the war analogy

Who are we at war with? Except for Fort Hood it appears we are at war with gun lovers - in particular European American and Asian American gun lovers.

Interesting thought - Do the Israelis allow the Palestinians carry guns in their midst?

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Response to Kennah (Reply #31)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:11 PM

45. Israel also requires you to have a reason to own a gun

And IMO that's something we ought to consider here.

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Response to Kennah (Reply #31)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:36 PM

49. With whom are we in a state of war?

We are supposedly out of Iraq and getting out of Afghanistan.

With what country are we in a state of war?

And if we are in a state of war, why haven't taxes gone up to pay for it?

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #49)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:45 AM

54. Ourselves

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Response to Kennah (Reply #54)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:36 AM

55. We have always been at war with ourselves

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Response to Leopolds Ghost (Reply #55)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:11 AM

61. Specifically, war on drugs, poverty, and the 99% in general

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Response to raquel69 (Reply #28)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 07:03 PM

67. Welcome to DU, raquel69!

Good to have you with us! Only problem is - there were armed guards at Columbine. There were armed guards at Virginia Tech. Hell, Fort Hood had nothing BUT armed guards - all over the compound! Did that make any difference? Did that stop any of those shooters? Did that do any good at all? We just had several of those "good guys with guns" mowed down in the last few days - in Pennsylvania - WHILE wayne lapierre was actually on TV, giving his bullshit speech! THREE state troopers I believe it was. Seems to me all it'll do is inspire armed nutcases to figure out ways around those armed guards. Figure out what kind of rounds they make, what patterns they patrol, and what hours they're on duty and in what locations on campus. If my kids were still of school age, I would think twice about sending them to some armed camp.

Got a gun problem? Well then we need to add more guns! MAKES NO SENSE TO ME, WHATSOEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:04 AM

32. All I could see was the blood on his hands and $$$$ falling out of his pockets....

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #39)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:06 PM

44. Food for thought.. Thank you.. Very enlightening article!

"seven days of silence were followed by an unhinged, tone-deaf caricature that the British press had to note as “not a parody.”

Oh, and no questions by the press until the Sunday morning newstalk shows? The press should have left at that very mention. Let the NRA buy advertising time instead. "

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:37 PM

41. COMPLETE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM is the only answer.

We need actual representative government, not lobbyist controlled puppets!

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:34 PM

48. " mean-spirited, cold and misguided."

Doesn't that pretty much sum up the NRA?

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #48)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 06:56 PM

64. It sums up the whole Republican party

But there's money involved--LOTS of it. So the NRA, as long as it remains a lobbying front for the gun industry and not a hobby organization, will not be going away. Same goes for its Republican allies.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:39 PM

50. He might as well have given free Bushmasters with the NRA logo to the families of the victims

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:48 PM

51. If all they are worried about is public relations no wonder there was a disaster. n/t

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 10:06 PM

52. Yup he's fucked. That was a truly epic fail.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:09 PM

57. K & R

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:19 PM

58. the man is DESPICABLE!










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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:16 PM

63. ...mean-spirited, cold...

and I would add nut-bag insane.

Misguided? Methinks Mr. Pierre knew exactly who he was 'guiding' his speech to. Witness the increased sales of assault weapons and huge magazines of ammo.

I very much HOPE that this speech DOES turn out to be a PR debacle for the NRA.

For justice will be best served if the consequences fall on them for a change.

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Response to love_katz (Reply #63)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 07:08 PM

68. Welcome to DU, love_katz (btw, I do, too!)!

Good to have you with us! Remember walmart, too. They steadfastly REFUSED to stop selling bushmasters and other personal weapons of mass destruction. I, too, hope that speech marks the beginning of the end for the NRA's power and influence. Or just its end, PERIOD. I noted with some irony that the speech was scheduled on the day the Mayan calendar designated as the end of the world. Here's hoping that's EXACTLY what it winds up being for the NRA!

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:50 PM

65. Gee, good thing the experts weighed in; it's not like any idiot could have told you that.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 07:10 PM

69. Ya think? nt

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 08:36 PM

70. What The NRA's Wayne Lapierre Gets Paid To Defend Guns aka don't puke on your shoes

Last edited Thu Dec 27, 2012, 09:41 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danbigman/2012/12/21/what-the-nras-wayne-lapierre-gets-paid-to-defend-guns/

Where did all the money go? About $33 million went to salaries and wages (not including the top brass), $28 million went to advertising and promotions. By far the biggest items were membership outreach: $57 million for membership communications, $24 million for printing and shipping, $16 million for educational programs. Just about $10 million went to the NRA’s lobbying arm, the Institute for Legislative Action.
More than $12.7 million went to Akron-Ohio based InfoCision, a huge telemarketing company that lists a broad spectrum of blue chip non-profits as clients– including Smile Train, the American Diabetes Association, Easter Seals and Unicef—as well as the College Republican National Committee and companies like Time Warner and AT&T.

ha! double ha!

is that what they call it? wtf? membership communications my ass. "got enuf guns? nope. well get more" costs 57 million?

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 09:39 PM

71. also, there is something missing from this thread. where are all the gun lubbers?

5000+ views and not a SINGLE defense of that a-hole??

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