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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:20 PM

What would it cost to put a teacher in every gun store?

Let's see, about 100,000 public schools and 60,000 gun shops. That's a 40% savings, right?

PLUS, education is a worthwhile investment.

How many unemployed teachers are there?

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/09/how-many-unemployed-teachers-are-there.html

According to BLS, the unemployment rate for “educational services” is 9.3 percent. ....

9.3% seems very high compared with other professions with similar educational requirements, and that’s after stimulus money.


A Record Decline in Government Jobs: Implications for the Economy and America's Workforce

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/jobs/posts/2012/08/03-jobs-greenstone-looney

... public-sector employment (i.e. federal, state, and local government jobs) declined in 10 of the past 12 months, in sharp contrast to 29 consecutive months of private-sector job growth. Indeed, falling public employment has been among the largest contributors to unemployment in the United States since the end of the Great Recession. ...

Total government (i.e., the sum of state, local, and federal) employment has decreased by over 580,000 jobs since the end of the recession, the largest decrease in any sector since the recovery began in July 2009.

Teachers
2009 = 3,942,700
2011 = 3,721,938
-220,762

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Reply What would it cost to put a teacher in every gun store? (Original post)
Coyotl Dec 2012 OP
Coyotl Dec 2012 #1
mcworld Dec 2012 #2
Coyotl Dec 2012 #3
hatrack Dec 2012 #7
Coyotl Dec 2012 #11
SunSeeker Dec 2012 #14
Coyotl Dec 2012 #17
RonW2000 Dec 2012 #19
Coyotl Dec 2012 #21
RonW2000 Dec 2012 #18
Retrograde Dec 2012 #4
ellisonz Dec 2012 #5
Coyotl Dec 2012 #6
OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #8
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #16
cali Dec 2012 #9
Coyotl Dec 2012 #10
wakemewhenitsover Dec 2012 #12
davidpdx Dec 2012 #13
SunSeeker Dec 2012 #15
Remmah2 Dec 2012 #20


Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:51 PM

2. that's pretty bizarre

 

but are you sure its not just dreamy talk...

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Response to mcworld (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:55 PM

3. In the last two years, we have enough unemployed educators to place four of them in each gun shop!

It is intelligent sarcasm. In the context of proposing an armed guard in every school. It also points to the absurdity of placing gunman in schools, while at the same tiome sounding like a good idea itself even if absurd. Consider also how the stats point to the fact that in the last two years alone, we have enough unemployed educators to place about four of them in every gun store!

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:58 AM

7. Think of the services they could provide! Reading, writing . . .

And above all, statistics. They might be able to teach store owners to read the CDC's Mortality & Morbidity Weekly Report.

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Response to hatrack (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:23 AM

11. The Basics of Probability 101

Imagine if they understood the meaning of this one:

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:06 PM

14. And that is why "responsible gun owner" is an oxymoron. nt

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:34 AM

17. Very good point!

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 12:03 AM

19. Is there a citation for the figures given in that cartoon?

 

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Response to RonW2000 (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:11 AM

21. I'm sure there is.

Facts are not difficult to find with the series of tubes.

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:00 AM

4. I like the way you think! (n/t)

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:29 AM

5. I like the way you think!

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:34 AM

6. Numbers tell us a lot, don't they? More education is a necessity.

So everyone can deal with numbers and make more informed decisions.

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:04 AM

8. What does putting a teacher in a gun shop accomplish?

 

Although, that teacher may very well be safer in the gun shop than at a school. Cant think of many, if any, mass shootings at gun shops. I can't imagine why, guns are all over the place in gunshops - there should be a high profile mass shooting at gunshops at least every year given the infestation of guns there.

And how do we handle online gun shops? Maybe place an online e-university banner at the top?

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Response to OneTenthofOnePercent (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:10 PM

16. Actually my dear Polly

Contrary to your belief, and a belief it is...there are more shootings and even deaths, than at schools...mass shootings notwithstanding.

But I would not expect Polly to know that.

So yes, that teacher is still safer in school.

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:05 AM

9. with posts like this, DU

descends to total inanity.

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Response to cali (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:17 AM

10. I know, a real improvement

if suddenly we elevated to a lack of substance

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Response to cali (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:29 AM

12. I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but just in case you're not... I disagree.

The OP makes an excellent point about misplaced priorities in our society. Was it total inanity for Jonathan Swift to propose that the solution to poor people being a burden on society was to eat the children of poor families?

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:32 AM

13. We could double our national debt in a matter of a few years

Then it wouldn't matter when we default on the loans there would be no schools left. lol

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:08 PM

15. K&R

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 12:11 AM

20. I bump into several teachers from my school district at the gun store regularly.

 

The former superintendent was a regular as well.

Go figure.

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