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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:46 PM

We not just watching the destruction of one party...

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it's our entire system of government thats failing. Is there any one here who believes that our 'elected' officials will do the right thing?

For our seniors?

For our vets?

For the homeless?

For the kids in school?

For any of us making less then $400,000 a year?

Deal with Climate Change?(Good Lord how did I forget the worst issue facing us?)


There are no problems facing us that can not be dealt with, but they all require work, effort and yes money. And we can't have that.

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Reply We not just watching the destruction of one party... (Original post)
daleanime Dec 2012 OP
KansDem Dec 2012 #1
daleanime Dec 2012 #2
Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #9
rhett o rick Dec 2012 #13
daleanime Dec 2012 #19
Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #27
KansDem Dec 2012 #25
Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #28
daleanime Dec 2012 #31
Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #3
daleanime Dec 2012 #5
DevonRex Dec 2012 #8
socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #16
Wellstone ruled Dec 2012 #4
daleanime Dec 2012 #6
global1 Dec 2012 #7
daleanime Dec 2012 #11
FiveGoodMen Dec 2012 #33
closeupready Dec 2012 #10
octoberlib Dec 2012 #12
forestpath Dec 2012 #14
Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #15
forestpath Dec 2012 #23
Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #29
daleanime Dec 2012 #17
forestpath Dec 2012 #24
bvar22 Dec 2012 #39
socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #18
daleanime Dec 2012 #20
leftstreet Dec 2012 #21
randome Dec 2012 #22
villager Dec 2012 #26
daleanime Dec 2012 #30
WinkyDink Dec 2012 #32
FiveGoodMen Dec 2012 #34
coldbeer Dec 2012 #35
daleanime Dec 2012 #37
Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #36
daleanime Dec 2012 #38
Doctor_J Dec 2012 #40
Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #41
daleanime Dec 2012 #43
upi402 Dec 2012 #42

Response to daleanime (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:48 PM

1. 47% of Congress are millionaires.

That says it all...

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Response to KansDem (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:50 PM

2. Big part of the problem.

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Response to KansDem (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:10 PM

9. Even more than 47%.

 


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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:22 PM

13. And many if not most not in the top 1% are looking for a fast track way there. nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:35 PM

19. Thats an interesting question...

What effect does a term or two in office have on personnel income?

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Response to daleanime (Reply #19)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:57 PM

27. It's mostly what happens after those terms as far as the money is concerned

Hooray the revolving doors - the one path that still leads to the american dream (being rich, the one where you don't actually have to be at sleep to believe it)

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:50 PM

25. Thanks!

I was getting my info from here:

47% of Congress Members Millionaires — a Status Shared by Only 1% of Americans

It’s no secret that many members of the U.S. House and Senate are millionaires — 47 percent of them — their salaries paid in part by the American taxpayers.

The Center for Responsive Politics has crunched the numbers and released the results on its Open Secrets blog:

“About 47 percent of Congress, or 249 current members are millionaires. … In 2010, the estimated median net worth of a current U.S. senator stood at an average of $2.56 million,” according to the Center’s research.

“Despite the global economic meltdown in 2008 and the sluggish recovery that followed, that’s up about 7.6 percent from an estimated median net worth of $2.38 million in 2009 … and up 13 percent from a median net worth of $2.27 million in 2008. … Fully 36 Senate Democrats, and 30 Senate Republicans reported an average net worth in excess of $1 million in 2010. The same was true for 110 House Republicans and 73 House Democrats.”

“The vast majority of members of Congress are quite comfortable, financially, while many of their own constituents suffer from economic hardships,” said Sheila Krumholz at the Center For Responsive Politics. “Few Americans enjoy the same financial cushions maintained by most members of Congress — or the same access to market-altering information that could yield personal, financial gains.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/47-of-congress-members-millionaires-a-status-shared-by-only-1-of-americans/


Awful lot of red in your diagram...

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Response to KansDem (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:00 PM

28. If you really want to risk a stroke, look into how many of them came into Congress as middle-class

 

and become multimillionaires through "lucky break" after "lucky break" plus the spouses and relatives that suddenly become qualified to make high 6 and 7 figure salaries.

I'm not going to name any names, but both parties are rife with this blatant corruption. No matter who's in control, it never sees the light of day.

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #28)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:11 PM

31. I don't think I dare to...

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the explosion might take some Innocent bystanders with me.

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:51 PM

3. Our system of govt was doomed to fail...

 

It needs to be more mob rule than this republic bullshit.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:55 PM

5. When the people 'elected' to office...

feel free to ignore 70-80% of the population, you known change of some kind is in the air.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:07 PM

8. It needed to be

a parliamentary system. But it's not.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:27 PM

16. It would probably be more fair if we had mob rule... n/t

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:54 PM

4. This is all part and parcel of

the Rethugs governing. Look around and you can see how this all played out in states legislatures nation wide. Never before have we had a greater divide between earning groups as we have now. Very obvious as to whom the Regthugs masters are and it is none other than the 1%ers. Push back for the Occupy movement. The truth the media refuses to report.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:02 PM

6. Which is why they want to change the internet now...

can't have uncontrolled news sources.

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:05 PM

7. When You Talk Compromise Immediately Both Sides Take The Most Extreme....

positions and nobody wants to lose.

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Response to global1 (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:17 PM

11. I don't think so...

how many people actually want to cut SS? 10-20%? But it keeps coming up in budget talks while military spending (which is over 60% of our budget) does not.

Can you tell me why that is?

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Response to global1 (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:27 PM

33. Really?

The Democrats take the most extreme positions?

Name some of those extreme positions, please.

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:11 PM

10. K&R

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:21 PM

12. We need to start making sure actual Democrats are elected to office

Not Republicans masquerading as Democrats.

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:22 PM

14. I sure don't believe it. I can't believe I was so happy on election night -

 

and now I don't think 's much to choose from between Obama and Romney.

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Response to forestpath (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:26 PM

15. The difference between Sotomayor and a Scalia.

That's significant.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:40 PM

23. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if he chooses a Republican next time.

 

He loves to pick Republicans for things.

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Response to forestpath (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:03 PM

29. No he won't....

He chooses Republicans because Lincoln is his idol....I wish Doris Kearns Goodwin had waited to write that damned book....

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Response to forestpath (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:32 PM

17. When Obama was elected for his first term,

I remember how nuts this place was. How much hope we all had that finally we could start to repair some of the damage done during the Bu$h. Videos of crowds singing in the streets.

Dear Lord why couldn't half that energy been used constructively.

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Response to daleanime (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:41 PM

24. I think part of me knew this would happen..I was just in denial.

 

But it doesn't take me long to see reality.

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Response to daleanime (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:02 PM

39. I remember too.

Obama's Army, Jan. 21, 2009

"Oh, What could have been."

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:32 PM

18. Of the wealthy, by the wealthy, for the wealthy

IF you give money to the middle class, they will spend it!

Spending money = financial recovery

Most of the money in the recovery of the stock market went to the wealthy and into savings and investments
thus taking money out of the economy and thus giving us a more sluggish recovery.

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Response to socialindependocrat (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:37 PM

20. And you better believe that their using it...

to make sure it stays that way.

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:38 PM

21. Voters destroyed the GOP. Dems are doing it to themselves

Sadly

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:39 PM

22. For almost 30 years, Republicans have held the reigns of power.

Even when they were in the minority, they held enough of the reigns to keep us in check.

That seems about to change. And I am not being optimistic.

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:55 PM

26. Add "for climate change," to the top of that list!

Sadly. Terrifyingly.

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Response to villager (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:03 PM

30. Done!

Thanks for reminding me before time ran out!

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:12 PM

32. Boiled down to: MONEY TALKS.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #32)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:30 PM

34. Money talks, and Bullshit ...

... always seems to be backed by an awful lot of money!

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:47 PM

35. The party has never changed

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Response to coldbeer (Reply #35)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:51 PM

37. I wish...

both parties have been dragged so far right that Raygun could pass as a moderate dem these days.

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:50 PM

36. I will never understand how a minority of Neanderthals is able to.....

drive the policies of this nation.

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Response to Bonhomme Richard (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:56 PM

38. The 1% fools enough people to predent...

got to have some reason to buy those media outlets.

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:45 AM

40. 85% of Americans want NO cuts to SS/Medicare

yet they were proposed by a Dem president.

We have no representation in DC.

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:03 AM

41. Fuck Congress.

Why not figure out a new way to organise society ... perhaps more equitably.

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Response to Fantastic Anarchist (Reply #41)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:41 AM

43. The problem is that we have allowed our government to be purchased...

When our congressman receives his/her payoff, their not selling themselves-their selling us.

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Response to daleanime (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:29 AM

42. I don't feel like 80% of our elected officials will do anything for us

Climate change is over-arching. And crickets we get.

Greg Palast was right.

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