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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:21 PM

The Most Revolting Press Conference In History

The Most Revolting Press Conference In History
by James Schlarmann
December 21, 2012

Wayne LaPierre is either the most comically evil or comically stupid person on the face of the Earth. A week ago today, twenty kindergartners and six adults whose job it was to protect those children were mowed down by a man carrying weaponry that no citizen has any rightful purpose to own. For the last week, LaPierre’s group, The National Rifle Association, has remained silent. They pulled their Facebook page down and their twitter account did send out any “Yay Guns!” tweets. Then a couple of days ago they broke their silence and said they were holding a major press conference today, which I just watched, and now I find myself furiously pounding away at the keys, trying to hold together the outright rage I feel inside for LaPierre and his organization.

So why did the NRA wait for an entire week to speak out on the terrible tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut? Were they going through a period of intense reflection over at the NRA? Remember, this is the group that has force-fed the public nothing but pro-gun fear mongering about how President Obama was going to take their guns away (he actually only signed two pieces of gun legislation in his first term, both of them expanding the list of areas it was permissible by Federal law to carry a firearm). This is the group that held a convention just over a week after the massacre in Columbine in 1999, a conference that produced the now infamous Chuck Heston sound byte, encouraging people to pry his gun out of his “cold, dead hands.” If you were expecting some kind of rational and cogent concession that their actions in the last thirty years especially have helped create a hyper-obsessed gun culture that has helped lead to an epidemic of mass shootings in this country, you can keep waiting forever. LaPierre’s audacity knows no bounds, apparently. The NRA’s big solution to gun violence in schools?

Armed guards. On our playgrounds.

First he needed to excoriate the media of course for their ignorance in gun specifications. It’s the go-to NRA rhetoric. “See how dumb these non-gun loving people are? They don’t even know that this gun is actually semi-automatic, and isn’t anything like BLAH BLAH BLAH.” Then LaPierre decided to inform us all it is all the media’s fault for demonizing gun owners. It’s certainly not the fault of the mother who knew she had an unstable son and decided to buy military-style firearms anyway. No, of course not. It’s the media’s fault.

The rest: http://www.politicalgarbagechute.com/the-most-revolting-press-conference-in-history/

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:22 PM

1. Can't disagree.

I can't think of another that stunk up the entire country so thoroughly.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:50 PM

41. Did the NRA goons sexually assault protestor?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:23 PM

2. Now THIS

we agree on ...

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:54 PM

83. SCUM. But I have to add...

I didn't expect intelligence, logic, or genuine sympathy. Come on, this is the NRA!

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #83)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:21 PM

124. Somehow it was worse than expected

I expected a modest shoveling of bullshit.

But, he went balls in on crazy, with emphasis.

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #124)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:50 AM

143. Really disgusting. I'd never seen/heard him before. A true wacko

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #143)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:12 AM

157. I wonder

if rock solid NRA types can look at that, or hear it, and maybe be honest in seeing the man is unhinged.

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #157)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 08:24 PM

158. Maybe a handful

I just don't know. I can't comprehend their mindset at all.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:24 PM

3. That was right out of a bad Hollywood movie

The guy is a caricature of a gun nut

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:25 PM

4. Dear wayne and the nra, FY.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:25 PM

5. Wayne LaPierre is delusional and crazy

As a Canadian, I never realized JUST HOW MUCH the NRA REALLY, REALLY, loves their guns.

Either Wayne is absolutely insane or lives in his own little world.... or gets some SERIOUS money from gun manufacturers.


It's just sick and bold of him to tell everyone that "hey, the problem isn't us, it's everyone else".



WTF??


In Canada our gun laws are strict sure, but people aren't that crazy over the laws.
Sure they complain, but they obey them and life goes on.


How sick. (Wayne is)

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Response to kuba (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:37 PM

34. Welcome to DU!

I only wish we could have gun laws as sensible as those in Canada.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #34)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:43 PM

74. The laws are sensible

I mean, I don't see people whining that they can't carry on their person. I mean sure they say they wish they could, but they don't go on bemoaning and crying on about it. It's just a fantasty, probably because they hear and see how gun owners in the U.S. can carry.

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Response to kuba (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:25 PM

60. How's life up there in a left-wing totalitarian UN-protectorate?

which is what I assume that you are living in- since we keep getting told that that will happen to us too unless we have an absolute unfettered right to have as many guns and as much ammo as we want.



Oh, you mean you have strict gun laws and you're still a functioning democracy where people just obey the gun laws and have learned to live with them?

I wonder why we can't have that here?

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #60)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:41 PM

71. LOL

Life is absolutely fine... as Brad Pitt once told Maher (in regards to Socialism) "were' fine, we're great".


It's perfectly good up here, no complaints. I was born and raised in this country and I love it for what it has to offer us.
Sure we pay taxes, however, I can't tell you how many times I needed an emergency visit at the hospital and I was worried about how I would pay for it.

I just wish the same for you guys and gals down south of the border.


Quite a few of my friends actually own guns and they're EXTREMELY responsible with them - trigger locks, bag/case locks and into their safes they go.


I hope things work out and Obama and company get things done in a moderate way and not a gun toting "me, me, me (1st)" way.

Come on up...the weather is fine too. lol

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Response to kuba (Reply #71)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:46 PM

76. Thanks

I don't know if I can bring myself to leave the US (would prefer to stay and fight for better lives for everybody here) but my eldest stepdaughter seems to be planning to hightail it up there as soon as she can- for your marriage laws. I hope we get better marriage laws on the books here in Indiana soon (though I doubt it) so that she doesn't have to!

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #76)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:14 PM

95. For your sake and your daughter's...

...I hope so to.

But tell her she's welcome with open arms.

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Response to kuba (Reply #95)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:59 PM

104. Thanks!

n/t

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Response to kuba (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:32 PM

63. Actually, it's three things

The two you named...and the NRA is more a right-wing think tank than it is a club for like-minded individuals. It used to just be a gun club, but especially since Clinton was in office they turned extremely hard to the right.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #63)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:43 PM

73. Think tank is quite on overstatement. The is no thinking going on there.

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Response to Sailingdiver (Reply #73)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 06:34 AM

151. There's a lot of thinking going on over there

Do you realize how much they had to think to come up with the response they gave? Their first thought was "impeach Obama and make walking around packed mandatory," and it took 'em a whole week to get it down to armed guards on playgrounds.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #63)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:46 PM

75. Clinton years...

...that's about the time I really got interested in American politiics. He had a magnetic personality and I could listen to him speak for hours on end.


However, you're probably right about the NRA being a "think tank" for the right wing - and I used the word "think" very loosely.
They certainly are in their own little bubble of a world.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #63)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:22 AM

153. Replace "think tank" with stupid idea generator, and you have got it N/T

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Response to kuba (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:00 PM

88. And Armed and Dangerous (NT)

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Response to kuba (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:18 PM

136. BUT YOU CANADIANS DON'T PLAY VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES!!!

OH WAIT.......

welcome to DU, kuba

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:26 PM

6. So you don't like the NRA....everyone gets it...

maybe if the ACLU did what they should have been doing all along, the NRA's power could be curbed..

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Response to pipoman (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:27 PM

8. Do ya?

Get it, I mean?

Thanks for letting me know everyone knows.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:18 PM

137. PIPEMAN IS BLAMING THE ACLU NOW

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Response to pipoman (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:30 PM

29. "So you don't like Republicans....everyone gets it"

Nobody complains about posts criticizing the Republicans. And why should they?

The NRA, like the GOP, deserves every bit of criticism it gets and is getting. And there cannot be enough of it.

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Response to pipoman (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:38 PM

35. ............

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Response to pipoman (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:53 PM

44. The NRA sees Sandy Hook as a MARKETING OPPORTUNITY!

The NRA is a P/R agency for Arms Traffickers, perverting the 2nd Amendment for financial gain.

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Response to TahitiNut (Reply #44)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:07 PM

47. ^^^THIS^^^

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Response to TahitiNut (Reply #44)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:19 PM

56. Hammer meets Nail!!! Thank you TahitiNut! That is precisely what the NRA did this morning!

It was a PR/Marketing Opportunity for how the NRA that really is the Gun Manufacturer Lobby, is going to launch their next campaign to increase gun sales....

It was disgusting....an insult to the parents and families of all the dead children and teachers of Sandy Hook and every other shooting in this country.

Perverting the 2nd Amendment for Financial gain.....that Mr. lapierre is the real pornography (as he made reference in his marketing launch) not the hollywood movies....

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Response to TahitiNut (Reply #44)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:24 PM

57. And the Brady Campaign doesn't?

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Response to pipoman (Reply #57)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:01 PM

90. NRA is the lobbying and marketing arm of the gun industry.

More guns = more profits fore the gun manufacturers.

What industry does the Brady campaign represent?

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Response to pipoman (Reply #57)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:26 PM

101. Do you have a reading disability?

Just WHERE do you see me even mentioning the Brady Campaign? Please take your red herrings elsewhere. They STINK!

On second thought: Welcome to my IGNORE list.

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Response to TahitiNut (Reply #44)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:36 PM

121. More guns = more profit for gun makers and the NRA

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Response to TahitiNut (Reply #44)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:56 PM

128. Yep.

The opening scene of Lord of War is boggling & shocking. The rest of the movie is pure depression.

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Response to pipoman (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:16 PM

54. Oh, OK, It's The ACLU's Fault Now Too

Got it. Everyone's fault but the NRA. And oh, the guns. Can't talk about the guns.

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Response to pipoman (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:38 PM

68. To paraphrase Samuel L Jackson, I have had it with these

motherfucking gun nuts on this motherfucking supposedly left-leaning discussion board.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #68)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:05 PM

93. Confused?

I always thought it was liberals who believed in liberal interpretation of civil rights/liberties and conservatives who liked to squash civil rights/liberties through conservative interpretation...

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Response to pipoman (Reply #93)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:25 PM

99. Liberals believe in the power of the state to legislate for the common good

especially when it comes to restricting the capacity for private sector violence and killing.

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Response to pipoman (Reply #93)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:59 PM

105. I've also always found that it is indeed, much more convenient to imply...

I've also always found that it is indeed, much more convenient to imply that those who may disagree with us are, de-facto less progressive than us, rather than simply addressing the points made.

But after a while, I grew up and stopped holding others to a higher standard than I held myself.

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Response to pipoman (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:02 PM

134. Eh?

Yeah, maybe.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:26 PM

7. I have no other word, and i keep using it. REPULSIVE!

It is a repulsive idea that everyone in this country needs to carry a gun to be safe.

It is a REPULSIVE thought to me!

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Response to boston bean (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:11 PM

51. +1

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Response to boston bean (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:51 PM

82. In this way, I WOULD LIKE MY OLD COUNTRY BACK.

Where I grew up people who even joked the way today's NRA talked were pretty much shunned as the weirdos they are.

By the farmers, by the shopkeepers, by the HUNTERS for crissakes. By died in the wool lifelong Republicans even.

*Everyone* knew those couple weirdos who drooled about guns were likely bad news and you should just stay away from them.

Course, that was the WW II generation running the show. They'd seen plenty of what guns do, the fascination and thrill of killing was gone, and they wanted no part of it anymore.

I remember going to Texas in 1990 and feeling very disturbed about people had to be TOLD using a posted sign that guns shouldn't be in a hospital or church. Seemed like common sense.

Well my midwestern sense of superiority wasn't long lasting. My home state now has the same law. Guns allowed UNLESS prohibited by posted signage.

What is the opposite of progress again?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:27 PM

9. Possibly the most crass thing I've heard seriously suggested.

There is not enough "WTF" cover it.

And how much should I expect to pay in taxes for my son to be terrorized by the sight of a gun everyday at school?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:27 PM

10. And he said 26 KIDS. He doesn't even know how many people died or what the distribution was. nt

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Response to tjdee (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:17 PM

25. That line really threw me as well. No better illustration for how little a shit he

gave about any of those victims.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:27 PM

11. I thought in press conferences questions could be asked

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Response to still_one (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:09 PM

49. Another thread said some reporters balked at that and left, labeling it as pure propaganda.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #49)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:41 PM

70. They are right

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Response to freshwest (Reply #49)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:21 AM

147. Good. For once they didn't want to be just stenographers for the devil

Good on em.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:29 PM

12. Excellent post.

And the rest of your article is well worth the time to read.


IMO, the NRA should be stripped of all assets, declared a terrorist organization and disbanded.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:36 PM

17. do an ACORN on them.

If the NRA was a left wing org, Boner et al would be defunding and harassing them to no end. Too bad our side can't do that (at least until 2014).

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Response to KatyMan (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:48 PM

19. Maybe not through Congress...

... but in the Court of Public Opinion we can get to work.

Realistically, getting them declared terrorist won't happen, but that doesn't mean we can't get them seen as the pariahs they are.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:26 PM

100. Last line is spot on!!

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:30 PM

13. K&R for a sane response to complete insanity n/t

 

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:32 PM

14. Not hyperbole

I'm having difficulty thinking of one more disturbing.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:32 PM

15. Watching the fake news conference/commercial was like watching something from The Onion. n/t

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Response to moobu2 (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:10 PM

50. +1

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:33 PM

16. K&R

Revolting.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:37 PM

18. That's only because the Joseph Mengele presser was cancelled.

Be fair, man. Be fair.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:22 PM

27. Hahah! I needed that laugh. nt

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:51 PM

43. Touché n/t

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:50 PM

20. Fuck Wayne and the NRA...

whenever some asshole brings up his/her "2nd Amendment rights ©", I remind them that the 2nd Am was written in a time when the only guns people had were flint-lock muskets that took no less than a minute to reload...ONE SHOT...a heavy ball that would most likely stop after hitting one body. And today we are talking about guns that can fire several rounds in less than a few seconds, with ammunition that a single round can cut through several people before stopping.

Times change, circumstances change, technology changes and the Constitution as a living document has to change as well...that's why they call them AMENDMENTS!

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Response to tex-wyo-dem (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:18 PM

55. Amen...

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:53 PM

21. That is exactly how I felt about it.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:00 PM

22. K&R

well said.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:12 PM

23. I'm listening to excerpts from it now

Disgusting sophistry

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:14 PM

24. Yeap, I call it being Cartoonishly Evil...just selfish and myopic to the bone...no other discipline

...of thinking

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:18 PM

26. Been to Mexico?

There is a country with armed soldiers everywhere.

Do we want to be Mexico?

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:33 PM

31. That was exactly my though. Assault weapons wrapped around their chests.

It was very discomfiting. It actually made me feel less safe.. I'm like why are they carrying guns??

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:25 PM

58. Same crowd shrieks 'Obama wants a Police State!' Really, now?

No, we don't want to be Mexico, run by brutal cartels and corrupt police and military who extort the masses. But the ones who back the NRA do. Mexico is safe for the plutocrats only, who like the NRA, want the ones who can afford an arsenal and guards to rob the rest of us. They want us to live as inmates in a prison and bow to their guns. Could they be any more obvious on what their vision means for the majority of Americans who are not profiting off this system?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:32 PM

30. Wayne LaPierre has to be one of the creepiest sonofabitches I've ever seen.

A complete sociopath as well.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:35 PM

32. Let's see how the MSM react

outside of MSNBC and Current can't wait to see how our corporate media react to this farce of a press conference and the "solutions" they offer

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:36 PM

33. Uncle Jimbo can sit out front with his assault rifle and we'll all be very very safe.



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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:42 PM

36. Shorter NRA: Gun laws make us LESS safe.

Dangerous idiots.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:43 PM

37. mr lapierre seems to live under the delusion that the NRA is a cabinet post.

i believe he's out of his fucking mind.

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Response to spanone (Reply #37)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:01 PM

123. With Bush the NRA had a front row seat

With Romney it may have even gotten worse.
I would say the rest of our lives is off to a very good start.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:46 PM

38. Revolting yes...

Shocking no.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:48 PM

39. He's a disgusting human being...

K&R

... evil incarnate. The king honcho of sociopaths among us. He had no desire to redeem himself in any way, as he hasn't a humble bone in his body or soul.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:50 PM

40. Peddling madness

The NRA is psychopathic

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:51 PM

42. This is a plan to sell another one million guns! n/t

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:04 PM

45. So sorry about your small penis LaPierre

All snark aside the shooter's mother had a lot of guns. It didn't save her life.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #45)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 07:25 PM

130. Obviously if she had just kept a gun on her person at all times, she'd be fine

Or if she had a cannon so she would have had the bigger gun.

If needed, please imagine a sarcasm sign here.

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Response to mythology (Reply #130)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 06:24 AM

150. And if she had simply stayed awake at night,

gun clutched firmly in hand, she'd be just fine now.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:06 PM

46. Assholes

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:08 PM

48. Database of the mentally ill? Good God, even if we did it, what frickin'

good would that do? They just want to sell the stuff and make money. They don't care WHO buys them. That's why are "gun shows".

Miserable piece of filth he is.

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Response to AllyCat (Reply #48)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:37 PM

67. I contend those that are willing to turn schools into prison yards are insane.

Last edited Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:00 PM - Edit history (1)

And that they would do what they have done for profit and never take into account the real costs of what they're doing - is insanity. They have no room to point fingers at anyone until this accepted form of mental illness - that profits are worth more than people - is extinquished. It's not a mental illness - it's a national spiritual crisis that we've tolerated under the cloak of 'what's good for business is good for the country' and 'the government should be run like a business.' We are brainwashed into accepting a dishonest list of choices, from bad to worst.

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Response to AllyCat (Reply #48)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:33 PM

102. That line really got me too

Register the mentally ill, really. Demonize them and make it harder for them in life. Most of these well off parents would never get treatment for their child, for fear of them being diagnosed and put on it, it would ruin future careers, etc. what an ass.

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Response to AllyCat (Reply #48)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:23 AM

142. Mental illness is a medical condition

something that is by many laws private. Is he saying that we should compromise our privacy on healthcare, but not guns? Is he suggesting that people on this list be not allowed to purchase, or even own a gun? if you are put on it do you have to give up your guns? does he want mandatory screenings for mental illness? does paranoia count as a mental illness? It seems that most of these NRA types suffer from paranoia that "someone" is out to get them so they have to have lots of guns, so I think that would disqualify them from having them in the first place.

Does PTSD count? I think that it would, as it can cause flashbacks, and there are many reports of soldiers suffering from PTSD induced flashbacks where they take a gun and start shooting people (sorry, no citations here) But many of the women they say should have a gun to defend themselves suffer from PTSD and would not be allowed to have one.

I really don't think he thought this through...

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:13 PM

52. NRA LaPierre, Norquist, Heritage Foundation, Koch Bros, ALEC - all the same

They tell the republican congressman to jump and the congressmen say how high do you want me to jump. I want to see some politicians that care about the people and doing the right thing, not about how much money they can rake in.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:14 PM

53. My vote: EVIL, and nothing comical about him. The NRA exists to sell guns. Period.

Wayne LaPierre exists to whitewash the NRA and their gun-loving policies.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:27 PM

61. If only someone had PAINT BALLED Wayne LaPierre during the Speech this discussion would be over.

Just saying.

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Response to RobertSeattle (Reply #61)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:11 PM

118. I was wondering, "Where are those Pie People when we need them?"

If ever a speaker deserved a pie in the face, this morning's press conference was the time!

I do have to admire the CodePink effort, for that effective contrast they provided during LaPierre's diatribe, hoisting their bloody signs.

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Response to RobertSeattle (Reply #61)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:23 PM

125. Your excellent comment made me wonder...

how tight security was at this event, and did they let ordinary attendees carry their guns? Isn't that actually what LaPierre is advocating? That we should all be armed, all the time, any place we want, with any weapon we want? And if they screened people for weapons, which they'd be nuts not to do, doesn't that contradict their philosophy? I'd love to have seen him paint-balled or even squirt-gunned, just to prove a point.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:31 PM

62. I wouldn't consider it a true press conference ,

 

seeing as they didn't take any questions.

It was more of a rambling dialogue of crazy.

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Response to BVictor1 (Reply #62)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:35 PM

64. In my book it isn't a press conference unless a question can be asked

Let hope the Sunday talk show hosts don't let Wayne LaPierre filibuster the whole show.

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Response to BVictor1 (Reply #62)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 05:12 AM

148. Definition: press conference

press conference noun
1. a conference at which press and tv reporters ask questions of a politician or other celebrity.

pronouncement
noun
1. a formal expression of opinion; a judgment.
2. an authoritative statement.

I would say his "press conference" was better described by the second word.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:35 PM

65. I am honored that William shared this piece with you all.

Thank you to everyone for your kind words and reading of this piece. Part of me wanted to include a picture of the corner of my desk that I shattered in a bit of a tantrum hearing LaPierre's words this morning. I was just joking with my wife last night that the NRA will probably say something stupid like we need to arm all our schools. And look what they did. They did it. In earnest.

That smell you've got in your nostrils is the sanity of our once great nation. Can you imagine such a suggestion twenty, thirty, even fifty years ago? Old school conservatives would flip out if they heard this press conference today. Disgusting, simply disgusting.

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Response to PolitiGarbageJames (Reply #65)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:39 PM

69. ^^^ This is the author, folks ^^^

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #69)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:50 PM

80. Ha! Guess I could have said that huh?

Some writer I am.

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Response to PolitiGarbageJames (Reply #65)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:48 PM

79. welcome to DU!

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Response to renate (Reply #79)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:51 PM

81. Thank you very much!

That little yellow guy is extra happy, isn't he?

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Response to PolitiGarbageJames (Reply #65)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:01 PM

89. Welcome to DU. Good piece, well said.

And on point.

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Response to pinto (Reply #89)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:14 PM

96. Thank you very kindly.

The question now becomes "How do we make it abundantly clear to our House Reps, Senators and President that we hate this fucking idea with every inch of our fiber?"

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Response to PolitiGarbageJames (Reply #96)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:27 PM

112. We Write To These "Officials" And Scream Loudly!

 

We stand on street corners in every hamlet of America and yell, albeit not so eloquently as you did, but with a hardy "FUCK NO."

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Response to PolitiGarbageJames (Reply #65)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:05 PM

107. Damnably good editorial, you wrote.

Damnably good editorial, you wrote.

Just dropped in to say that.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #107)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:24 PM

111. You are very kind, thank you!

N/T

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Response to PolitiGarbageJames (Reply #111)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:38 PM

114. Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #114)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:00 PM

116. No complaints thus far, that's for sure!

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Response to PolitiGarbageJames (Reply #65)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:23 AM

141. Welcome to DU

Wonderful article.

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Response to Irishonly (Reply #141)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:09 AM

144. Thank you, Irishonly!

And I am very appreciative of your kind compliment. I'm enjoying bouncing around the forum.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:35 PM

66. LaPierre and the NRA would love nothing more than to start/keep an arms race

going here in the USA just among the American People.

In this they're as the military industrial complex longing for war or Cold War just to line theirs' or their clients' pockets with blood money.

At some point in the future I imagine they will start selling and promoting the use of laser rifles to the general public.

Thanks for the thread, WilliamPitt.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:42 PM

72. He's doing his job.

I'm not supporting him, nor would I support the NRA, neither financially nor morally, but he's in his position to unconditionally prevent anti-gun legislation and he did that today. Expecting anything more than what he offered would be unrealistic. If he came out and suggested banning anything from hi-cap mags to actual machine guns, there'd be a new director at his desk Monday morning, and we would see a future policy of rinse and repeat.

Having said that, I loathe LaPierre if only because he turned the NRA from a gun lobby into an arm of the republican party. He advises people I know to vote for politicians like our governor John Kasich based on their political stripe rather than their stance on gun control, and my friends (unfortunately) listen. Fortunately, so many others, including blue collar union members who have a weapon at home for protecting their family or hunting, don't spend a red cent on the NRA. These people don't see a need to carry a concealed weapon, nor do they lust for assault rifles, and they don't vote for republicans.

During his tenure in Congress as an example, Kasich not only voted for the Clinton era cosmetic ban on assault rifles, he helped write the law. The result of such blanket endorsements by LaPierre are governors and reps who do far more to defeat organized labor and social safety nets than they do for law abiding gun owners, and it's only a matter of time before the sheep who carry an NRA card see that.

Don't worry too much about LaPierre's presser today, as public sentiment turns against him, he'll become less and less relevant in his position. I hope I live long enough to see the NRA become bankrupt, morally in the public's eye and financially in their treasurer's report. Elections are what matters, not some blowhardt in a suit spewing predictable nonsense to cover his organization's ass.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #72)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:57 PM

86. So is el Rushbo. nt

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:46 PM

77. To quote Wayne - "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

So... Adam Lanza was a good guy?

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #77)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:21 PM

110. And he turned from "bad" to "good" by shooting himself? Idiots...


John Wayne movies are not a source for a serious life philosophy guys. Wake up and join the REAL world.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:48 PM

78. Wayne LaPierre sucks.



Big time.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:55 PM

84. I see it even more sinister, if possible. Polarizing pro and anti-gun folk will accomplish further

chasm and make it yet harder to even find a way.

More and deeper heels in the sand. We will never get rid of guns. Yet our little kids go to school every day and they and their parents trust they will not be the next Sandy Hook. We didn't have an elementary school to put a name on little kid carnage...Columbine was a High School...and many of them now have security guards on campus...for frisking the kids if necessary, or providing at least a deterrent to a crazy shooter.

Our best bet is to figure out to live and work with those who believe it is their right, as long as they are law-abiding citizens, to have a gun. Because as much as we might like, they aren't going away any century soon. Not going to happen. Magical thinking and pie in the sky. He just put out in the media what has been reality in the US for centuries...and it no longer sounds appropriate in the light of the dead kids.

So that leaves us with conversing as adults and mediators between the folks that want to own legal weapons, for legal uses, and abide by all the rules....and those of us who, forced into accepting the futile nature of total confiscation and banning, would like to change those rules in a significant manner...and how to treat those who don't want to play by the rules. That's a long, but necessary process.

But first priority...the social net has been breached forever. Our kids need to be protected. Number One priority in this conversation. Twenty six murders, women and children in the homeland by an American citizen, in a white elementary school, has guaranteed that there will be changes...big ones. Meanwhile, millions of kids are going back to school in January.

Social change is not as instantaneous nor as inexpensive as the social trauma and shock that created the situation of horror we are all going through. And I'm all for increased mental health funding, some reasonable retrofitting to school buildings, but with all due respect, it's a long process.

If I was currently a parent of a young elementary student, I would be engaging in a process such as ...

(1) calling a PTA Meeting just for parents, teachers of the school
(2) interface with district administrative personnel and Board of Education members...making some immediate recommendations for our school and kids
(3) interfacing with local organizations and civic leaders all of whom directly share our concerns.
(4) Directly considering ways that are within our current ability to provide beefed up security to allay the fears of just about every parent who has a television and drops off kids, with trust they will return safe and sound. That's not necessarily a given any longer.
(5) I believe that this is the level the real ideas will come from...as well as the power to decide what is best.

We have Crossing Guards, who are usually friendly retirees that get to know the kids. No one feels they are promoting the fact that kids can't cross the streets by themselves. Of course they can. It's just the time or two when things didn't go exactly right and a kid was injured and/or killed.

Same is true for high schools and sporting events...no one feels like they are in a Police State because there are uniformed security in the parking lot and in the entry ways.

Even the laws to put a kid in a car seat don't reflect on the parent's driving...it's to protect the kid from the occasional idiot driver who is drunk, doesn't obey the laws, got distracted...whatever...but the chances of death are lesser by taking precautionary measures.

Now we come to the heart of our communities...just short of the hearths themselves...elementary schools. Is it defeat that this conversation is even necessary? Yes.

The shoe bomber did not end air transportation. He provided the impetus for a new level of protection ... the TSA ... we had not formerly needed. A defeat, in a way, but I've accustomed myself to the insult of nearly stripping down and/or getting patted down at an airport as a small price to pay for fearing for my safety on my flight.

As long as every gun is obligated to be registered, re-registered, annually taxed, the sale and transfer of any weapon is equal to a 6-pack of beer and a pack of cigarettes...or a motor vehicle...it won't take that long. The social conversation is shifting. Total ban "nuts" like me are willing to accept the inevitability of guns and make new rules. Legal gun owners...most of them...will be willing to participate in the conversation as it now could very possibly affect their own children or grandchildren.

I'm waiting for the PTA or the NEA to speak. They, too have been silent. It was their charges who were murdered and their charges who are still alive and need public schools.

Security Guards at elementary schools are now needed. There are enough vets, retired military, retired peace officers ... all trained...to get up to speed on the difference of protecting a public elementary school and get us started here. In the present.

This is what our kids need to see. They are already terrorized. What they don't need is helpless, hysterical hand-wringing and blame/shame on "them" from the adults, let alone fear of going to school. They need to see the reasoned and adult actions identifying a crisis, being horrified, while contributing to its solution...in whatever little or insignificant way. Calming. The social equivalent of the First Responders. Yes this is horrific...now kids, we help to clean it up, as part of the good guys. That's how they learn from a trauma...responsible adult actions. "It's all going to work out OK."

After that, let the longer-term negotiations begin.

I say this after having been an elementary kid's mother during the Polly Klaas kidnapping...we were traumatized with the nation as her body was discovered in a rural part of our town. The publicity, if nothing else, changed the social contract. There had been a number of kidnapped kids in our county that we never heard of, so never feared. In fact, their parents occasionally gave interviews questioning the national publicity of the well-to-do pretty little white girl. The good news is that her father did start a national network for abducted children.

Our neighborhood society was never again the free, casual, friendly open-door, bikes in the front yard, kids going to the park to play baseball after school it used to be. That's what I call a change in the social order.

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Response to libdem4life (Reply #84)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:14 PM

135. Im not anti gun. Im anti having more firepower than my squad did in iraq.

Im anti being able to outgun the police, by yourself.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:55 PM

85. Reframe the issue as part of the war on terror. Freeze the NRA assets. Don't let them have publicity

 

OBL's words were checked for coded messages

THE NRA is sending out a terroristic coded message to stock up and amass
The rightwing preaches hate and death and has for years (ask Tom Daschle who almost died after receiving Thrax in the mail).

MAKE THE NRA A TERROR ORGANIZATION and freeze their assets.

There is NO talk in the 2nd amendment about this lobby group.

I don't see AlQueeda giving daily press conferences and taking out ads in newspapers and magazines

It is time to put an end to this war on guns.
Might take years still, but the beginning of the end is near.

I used to say audit the NRA, now I say freeze their assets.
With no money, they are useless and cannot do what is tantamount to blackmailing candidates to vote for them.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:59 PM

87. Trying to have a rational

reasonable discussion with far right extremists is akin to pissing into the wind.
Normal people should avoid engaging them as they could snap without warning and they are likely to be armed.
Many wanted posters say armed and dangerous, Is it time to add Republican to that?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:05 PM

91. Quick way to shut down this line of bullshit

"Certainly, Wayne. Anything you want. Wait here and we'll repeal all the Bush and Reagan tax cuts then institute a federal property tax to pay for it."

The revolting part here isn't just that the NRA wants to solve America's gun problem by turning America into a nation with machinegunners prowling the streets (historical note to Wayne: in these countries you think America should model herself after, the first thing the armed security force does is go door-to-door disarming the citizenry) but also that the Right throws around proposals to spend money in sums that make liberals blanch. For every $1 a liberal wants to spend on feeding people or providing medical care, the Right wants to spend $25 on a plane to fight enemies whose most advanced weapon is a Toyota pickup with a fifty-caliber machinegun in the bed. For every $5 a liberal wants to spend creating jobs, the Right wants to spend $500 on tax cuts so people will be motivated to create jobs when every piece of evidence we've amassed says if you raise business taxes significantly and add plenty of deductions for job-creating activities people will create jobs to avoid paying taxes.(Since the Right loves confusing micro- and macroeconomics....which would work better, promising your kid a banana split if he gets straight As, or giving him a banana split so he'll get straight As?)

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:05 PM

92. Yeah the answer to this tragedy is most assurable more guns

Lets just have armed guards roaming the hallways at our nations schools. What a terrific learning environment that would be. Kids show up to school and armed guards and police are there waiting for them. That is just the kind of the thing that a bunch of 9 and 10 year old kids need to see every day. Hell just expose them to more and more guns, 5 days a week, 9 1/2 months out of the year. Heck I bet these kids will grow up perfectly normal.

What the hell is wrong with people. I feel very sorry for this current generation of youth in this country. They are going to grow up in constant fear at "SCHOOL" for Christ sake. And it's not the fear of failing a test or the fear that some bully might give you a black eye, it's the genuine fear that somebody could kill you with a firearm. If we don't change this way of thinking the current and future generations have absolutely no chance in hell of growing up with a stable and secure sense of safety while they are at school, or anywhere else in public for that matter.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:11 PM

94. Michael Moore just tweeted that there were 2 armed guards at Columbine

and that still didn't save the 15 deaths.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:19 PM

97. Let Teachers Bring guns to their Contract Meetings!

The administration would just love that.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:24 PM

98. In related news, 4 dead in PA mass shooting at the same time as the press conference

5 wounded, including 3 state troopers.

If only there had been armed and trained men present, there would have been no shoot.....oh wait.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:53 PM

103. At least they're honest in their cognitive dissonance

They finally admit that among the costs of the fraudulent interpretation of the 2A that they are pushing (apart from tons of dead children) is a police state.

Think about it. They want to live in a country where there's a cop at every corner in order to preserve their perceived "freedoms". Someone page Dr. Festinger!

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Response to Democracyinkind (Reply #103)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:19 PM

108. What an incredible and logical conclusion.

I'm in awe of what you just pointed out that is sitting right in front of us. The gunners have just publically admitted that they are willing to ENABLE the tyranny they claim to be guarding against just to keep their MAN CARDS.

Told you machismo is stupid.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:00 PM

106. There is nothing comical about the evil

exuding from every fiber of his being. He is in it for the money and just the money and anyone who is willing to make millions on the death of citizens can never be described as anything but evil. The NRA 's national convention was held in Charlotte, NC in 2010. Guns of any and all types are banned in the Charlotte Convention Center...yet that's the site they chose. So you can add hypocrisy to the list of evils perpetrated by this organization.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:20 PM

109. He also said we will be attacked

He did that in defense of these military weapons. His paranoid base just ate that up. We need them for when we get attacked by another country. He was talking to the paranoid gun toting bunch today not the normal person.

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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:38 PM

113. Agree 100%. Truly revolting. Sacrifice children to protect the 2nd amendment. Again and again...

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:57 PM

115. "... either the most comically evil or comically stupid person on the face of the Earth"

I disagree .... this is not an either or sitution.

LaPierre and his NRA scum bags can be and are both.


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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:08 PM

117. I knew it would be bad, but not this bad

I figured they'd come out with some BS about Hollywood or the mentally ill, but arguing that the solution to gun violence is more guns? It defies comprehension.

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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:18 PM

119. As noted in other posts, they are in full-bore fundraising mode.

It will work, too - they will score millions off this tragedy.

Sickening.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:23 PM

120. They stole that concept from Israel, anyway

They have armed teachers there. No doubt, this is where the NRA got the idea from.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:45 PM

122. kick

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:53 PM

126. FUCK THE NRA.

It was sickening. I hope sane people are waking up & realizing that they can no longer sit quietly while TPTB continue with the status quo & I mean in terms of everything. EVERY. FUCKING. THING. From guns to reproduction to social security to TPP to everything.

Democracy isn't free.
You have to pay attention.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:55 PM

127. I wonder what the NRA would have to say if one of their national meetings got shot up with many

 

deaths?

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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 07:09 PM

129. Where are our spiritual leaders?

Boy they sure ante up when it's time to protect a cluster of cells.

Another group of ball- less mfs.

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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 07:31 PM

131. LaPierre is essentially a lobbyist for gunsellers.

Of course his solution includes more guns that someone has to purchase.

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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 07:34 PM

132. kick

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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 07:53 PM

133. As a teacher I find this revolting

So we are going to turn our schools into armed fortresses if LaPierre has his way? Thank you no. Kids are scared enough as it is--having adults strapped on a daily basis--won't make them feel any safer. Sorry, but i know kids and if they know people are carrying guns around them--they AREN'T going to think "Oh goodie. I'm safe now."

I have gotten into it on other sites with people who agree with LaPierre--and have told me straight out if I'm not willing to carry a weapon around the school on a daily basis to protect the children--I don't deserve to be a teacher. My answer is that if I wanted to be in law enforcement, I'd have become a police officer. Nurturing and protecting children does NOT require the arming of oneself with a killing machine.

If this is what our society is coming to--then we are in deep, deep trouble.

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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:15 PM

139. K&R!

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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:24 PM

140. Fuck the NRA.

nt

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:21 AM

145. Oh come on you guys are so unfair!


I mean look at those soft puppy dog eyes! That cute smile. He looks so innocent.

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Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:19 AM

146. I know you would harp on this no matter what and I'm glad you are

You are high profile so if you recommend someone else's writing or write something yourself about this atrocity and the idiocy of our gun laws, it gets read. But the ferocity with which you have taken after this makes me think you look at your wife's swollen belly and it's giving you a belly of fire. Wait til you see her, the ferocity with which you will protect and love her might surprise you. It's intellectual until you are holding your child and then it's just not.

I'm not saying people who don't have children don't get it. Of course they do. There's just this extra switch that comes on when one's own child is born. You know without a doubt that you would step in front of a bullet for them. And those parents who lost their children would have too, had they been there. Heck, their guardians, the teachers, did the very same thing.

This has been both awe inspiring and revolting beyond comprehension.

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Response to tavalon (Reply #146)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 05:20 AM

149. THIS. ^^^^

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Response to tavalon (Reply #146)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 10:36 AM

156. Damn straight. Beautifully stated.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:02 AM

152. All I needed to see was the headline.

I had to turn off the footage of it I saw on the news.

The man and his group absolutely disgust me. Everyone and everything else is the problem. Not them. It's NEVER them.

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Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:32 AM

154. As far as I am concerned the NRA is as bad as the Klan

Anyone who doesn't like that is hereby invited to pound sand.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:31 AM

155. after some quick math ...

Number of US schools x policeman's salary

That's roughly 130,000 x $55,000 (and that is the low end)

$7.15 billion per year.

That is assuming only one per school, and doesn't count overtime.

Consider how many more cops will be needed to protect after-school activities, athletic practices and events, field trips, etc. Also consider how much OT that rings up. I'd expect much of the burden to eventually be outsourced to lower-priced security firms. I'm sure they are fit for the job - Don't Taze Me Bro, indeed! I believe Blackwater/Xe is ready to bid for the contract.

What an asinine plan.

I do hope that press fiasco is the death knell for the NRA.

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