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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:32 AM

MSNBC Host Goes Off On Republican Rep For ACCUSING Him Of EXPLOITING Newtown Shooting For Political





Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-KS) accused MSNBCís Joe Scarborough and other gun safety advocates of politicizing the tragic shooting in Newtown, Connecticut to advance a ďpolitical agendaĒ of greater gun safety, outraging the former Florida Congressman.


ďI think itís an issue of the Second Amendment,Ē Huelskamp said in response to a question abut why he opposes banning assault weapons. ďIt says we have a right to protect ourselves.Ē He added: ďbut Gosh, letís step back. Letís not build on the tragedy in Connecticut and use that to actually push a political agenda.Ē The charge riled Scarborough who, in the aftermath of the shooting, abandoned his opposition to gun safety and said that he would support sensible gun regulations.


The Morning Joe host quickly reminded Huelskamp that the nation acted swiftly after the terrorist attacks on 9/11 and explained that taking sensible measures to prevent future massacres is not exploitative. But Huelskamp insisted that the government should stay out and said that parents must educate their children to not play violent video games:




SCARBOROUGH: To push a political agenda?

HUELSKAMP: Oh, absolutely. This president and his folks are using this to push Ė

SCARBOROUGH: Letís talk about September 11th, Congressman. Were there some changes made in this country because of the tragedy of September 11th? Was that just using a tragedy, 3,000 deaths, to try to make americans safer? Do you dare come on my show and say I am using the slaughter of 20 little 6 and 7-year-old children, Iím using that for political purposes, Tim?

HUELSKAMP: Joe, how many children do you have?

SCARBOROUGH: Iíve got four children, Tim. Answer my question.

HUELSKAMP: So do I. And I refuse to let you say that because you have children, or anybody else, that we need to actually politicize this. But I see folks in Washington ó I donít know about you. I donít watch your show. Youíre trying to politicize this.

SCARBOROUGH: Tim, Iím not going to let you say that I am, quote, politicizing the slaughter of 20 children. But you said anybody talking about thisÖ. So we canít at least talk about guns without you questioning my integrity and saying that Iím using the death of 20 children to try to make life for my children a little bit safer? We canít even talk about it without you coming on this show and insulting me personally?










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Reply MSNBC Host Goes Off On Republican Rep For ACCUSING Him Of EXPLOITING Newtown Shooting For Political (Original post)
Segami Dec 2012 OP
hlthe2b Dec 2012 #1
cordelia Dec 2012 #14
hlthe2b Dec 2012 #40
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #39
reformist2 Dec 2012 #2
Segami Dec 2012 #3
MiniMe Dec 2012 #4
davidpdx Dec 2012 #5
LibGranny Dec 2012 #6
blue_heron Dec 2012 #8
proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #25
blue_heron Dec 2012 #44
proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #45
LibGranny Dec 2012 #55
OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #7
KharmaTrain Dec 2012 #9
proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #26
Matt_in_STL Dec 2012 #10
exboyfil Dec 2012 #12
Aerows Dec 2012 #43
uponit7771 Dec 2012 #11
secondvariety Dec 2012 #13
proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #30
blue_heron Dec 2012 #46
proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #48
ReformedGOPer Dec 2012 #15
BlueManFan Dec 2012 #16
kimbutgar Dec 2012 #17
Mike Daniels Dec 2012 #18
savannah43 Dec 2012 #32
vanlassie Dec 2012 #19
yorokmok Dec 2012 #36
IDoMath Dec 2012 #20
Auntie Bush Dec 2012 #49
bigdarryl Dec 2012 #21
bobclark86 Dec 2012 #22
sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #23
proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #47
proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #24
thesquanderer Dec 2012 #27
merrily Dec 2012 #28
Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #29
savannah43 Dec 2012 #31
1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #33
Auntie Bush Dec 2012 #50
1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #53
Auntie Bush Dec 2012 #54
bora13 Dec 2012 #34
Thinkingabout Dec 2012 #35
Sailingdiver Dec 2012 #37
Historic NY Dec 2012 #38
patrice Dec 2012 #41
Bucky Dec 2012 #42
catbyte Dec 2012 #51
Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #52
renie408 Dec 2012 #56

Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:36 AM

1. It is devastating to see what has become of Kansas politics...

Pretty soon the extremists in Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia will all look moderate and rational by comparison.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:43 AM

14. Just like the extremists in Colorado.

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Response to cordelia (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:28 AM

40. I don't deny that we have our share... But fortunately we've been able to turn them back

from controlling the entire state...They've exerted themselves at times, but the state is blue (or at least blue-purple) now.

I have family in Kansas.. I KNOW what it used to be and what it is now.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:22 AM

39. The stupid is knee high by July in Kansas.

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:39 AM

2. Huelskamp is a hypocrite - He's willing to "politicize" the tragedy, blaming everything except guns.


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Response to reformist2 (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:42 AM

3. Self-serving NRA water carriers.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:42 AM

4. And we still have to take our shoes off at the airport

Lets push a bill through that everybody can have muskets

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:43 AM

5. I'm not going to read all of it or watch the video because I had a similar conversation today

with someone on Facebook and it really pissed me off. Actually it was two people, but one (who I was closer friends in HS backed off pretty quickly and talked to me via chat) the other who I wasn't close to engaged in a full-throat battle with him.

The ignorance really just annoys me to no end. It makes me want to slap them.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:47 AM

6. This jerk is not my representative (I live in Kansas); however,

I tried to contact his office by e-mail to send a letter stating what my feelings are about gun control, etc. but he does not ACCEPT E-MAILS FROM ANYONE NOT IN HIS DISTRICT! What kind of chickensh*T does that? So I called! and my husband called. Next I'll send a written letter.

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Response to LibGranny (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:10 AM

8. I discovered this with other representatives

Good for you, for not being deterred and THANK YOU!!!


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Response to LibGranny (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:45 AM

25. Next time use this zip code - 67735

That's Goodland, KS.

When you run into this, just look up a city or town in the rep's district and get that zipcode.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:25 PM

44. LOL - good idea!

hadn't thought of that!

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Response to blue_heron (Reply #44)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:30 PM

45. I do it all the time.

It works.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:32 PM

55. Hey, thanks P2BK!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:53 AM

7. Huelskamp is a disgrace to the human race. But what can you expect from GOP Tea-Nazis? nt.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:17 AM

9. Now We Know For Sure What The NRA Talking Points Will Be Later...

...it wasn't the guns that killed all those children...it was video games and Hollywood!!! Splendid, Tim...you've earned your "A" rating this morning and proved, even proved how out of touch your corrupt and inept party is when you make Joey and his hyenas look "liberal" and "reasonable".

Be ready now for today's barage of NRA talking points that will try to distract from the actual murders and how to prevent future ones into straw men and wild gooses. If Lanza was only at home playing video games last Friday, there'd be 20 6 and 7 years olds getting ready to celebrate the Holidays. It was a classic demonstration of how disconnected the teabaggers are. Now watch Huelskamp to become the new hate radio hero...

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Response to KharmaTrain (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:48 AM

26. And mental illness.

That's what the local wingnuts in Kansas are saying on newspaper blogs. It was Hollywood, video games and mental illness. Some have also blamed poor parenting. Huelskamp hinted at that in this interview when he said he doesn't allow his child to play violent video games.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:20 AM

10. So, guns don't kill people...

But video games and movies do. This is what the country has come to. A country where the sale of toy guns is regulated more than real guns and video games are responsible for mass slaughter. Man, I fucking hate people.

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Response to Matt_in_STL (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:33 AM

12. Don't forget no established prayer

and Bible study in school. There is another asserted causal link (I actually did some statistical studies to show, if anything, it is a negative correlation - the more religious the state or country - the higher the homicide rate in the state or country). Now I am not asserting causality, but if you can't even get over the correlation bar - it is impossible to argue causality.

Of course if we had some husky 12 year old boys at the K-4 school, they could have taken the shooter down.

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Response to Matt_in_STL (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:37 AM

43. And boys using easy-bake ovens

don't forget that one.

Because it's not like a woman took down the Ft. Hood shooter with two bullets in her after he shot 40+ men.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:32 AM

11. KKKons = culture of a**Hole

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:40 AM

13. Glad I don't live in his district.

Must be full of mouth breathers.

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Response to secondvariety (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:55 AM

30. They're actually largely good people. Mainly farmers.

Huelskamp's district covers more than half the state. It's western Kansas, home of Bob Dole and lots of farmers and ranchers. Largest town is maybe 20,000 or 25,000. And because they have voted republican for years, they vote republican. I don't know if they don't pay attention or if they assume the republican party is still the same republican party Bob Dole led. Huelskamp ran unopposed. The Kansas Democratic party has been trying to get at least a foothold on Huelskamp's district for as long as I can remember.

My family is from western Kansas and they aren't nutty wingnuts like Huelskamp. There are also some good Democrats in his district. They are outnumbered but they are a presence.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #30)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:30 PM

46. NOW is the time

to get someone to start a grassroots democratic candidate who can mount a campaign against him. There have to be more people horrified at what he's doing.

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Response to blue_heron (Reply #46)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:37 PM

48. Here's the problem. Money.

The KS Democratic party doesn't have any money. And until we see them come up with an effective strategy for spending money, many KS Democrats like me won't give them much money. We can't just react to the stupidity of the state GOP. We need to have a plan to defeat them in elections.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:46 AM

15. Remember

"we don't have a gun problem"

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:51 AM

16. Calling this guy A Corn Turd With Ears

would be an affront to turds everywhere.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:57 AM

17. I seem to remember that the GOP politicized 9-11 to ram all kind of legislation that took away our

rights. Bush and cheney used 9-11 to cement their hold on the white house in 2004. This Kansas guy is a brought and paid for NRA whore. No wonder Boehner pulled him from the committee chairmanship. The guy is an ignorant idiot.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:57 AM

18. I don't know Joe's angle on this but he tore into the Repub. leadership today

Commenting that not one leader in the Republican party has said word one regarding what should be done in the aftermath of last week's event.

It was either him or Willie Giest who then went on to say that one Republican congressperson stated they were instructed not to say anything until the NRA released their statement today.


This was all connected to the poll that said the majority of the public believes the positions of the Republican party are too extreme.

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Response to Mike Daniels (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:05 AM

32. And if they don't do as they are told, they won't get their pay checks!

Why do the taxpayers have to give them any money at all? The farce continues.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:23 AM

19. I live how he ASKS Joe how many kids he has

and then says Joe is using these kids to politicize the issue. These guys set up straw children, too.

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Response to vanlassie (Reply #19)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:09 AM

36. Attempted setup - FAIL

You realize he saw that approach as a win-win for him. If Joe said he didn't have kids he could say 'Why does this concern you?' and if Joe said he had kids (which he did) he could follow the line he wanted to - video games, movies and bad parenting! What a tool!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:28 AM

20. Hell yes, 9/11 was politicized

 

Congress and the country went off half cocked and passed a bunch of very bad laws that should never have seen the light of day. We are no safer for it, just less free.

So if that is your comparison....

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Response to IDoMath (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:41 PM

49. What! Geo Bushed politicalized 9/11 ?!?!?!? Where'd you ever get that absurd idea...the Media?

Do I have to really use the sarcasm thingie to make my point?

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:35 AM

21. If his 11 year old son had been shot in that school his dumb ass would have a heart

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:36 AM

22. I thought it was pretty ironic, myself...

People on both sides screaming for something to happen and using a tragedy to push their own personal agendas...

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:43 AM

23. I found myself

in a Walmart yesterday for reasons I'd rather not go into. I'm glad nobody I know saw me. As I was walking past the gun section I noticed a couple of assault style weapons in the case. I got to taking with the "associate" and she told me they were .22 long rifle models and that all the .223 weapons had sold out before the end of the weekend following the Sandy Hook massacre. The right is desperate to frame this tragedy as being about politics, or gender, of mental illness, or religion...anything but guns. The gun nuts know better.

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Response to sulphurdunn (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:32 PM

47. My local news did a story about WalMart running out of guns.

And poor things are afraid they can't order any more before Christmas.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:43 AM

24. Huelskamp is an idiot. And an embarrassment to Kansas.

At least Boehner finally saw through him and removed him from the committee he was on. Huelskamp is a tea party nutjob. I actually feel sorry for the people he represents.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:49 AM

27. Video games?

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:50 AM

28. I think a LOT of media, politicians and even message board posters have been exploiting the tragedy.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:54 AM

29. Welcome to OUR world Joe! You see the kinda of bull shit you Repugs do to us!

It would be enough to turn a normal person to be a Democra, but then, nobody said you were normal!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:01 AM

31. Keep children away from video games, but give them guns?

The NRA and its supporters--another example of the lunatics trying to run the asylum.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:07 AM

33. I saw that, this morning ...

the whole segment made me smile.

Then, it dawned on me ... Joe is attempting to rehabilitate the gop by giving air to their nuttiest teaparty folks, in hopes that people will actually see their nuttiness and purge them. It happenned with ODonnel, Akin, Mourdoch and a host of other teaparty folks.

I say put them on every station, wind them up, and let them go ... right of the edge of the table.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #33)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:46 PM

50. And then give them a powerful gigantic shove!

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #50)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:08 PM

53. Won't need to give them a shove ...

I don't know your age, but maube you remember those old wind up toys that hop around? Well, that these nutty teapartiers ... they'll hop off the table all by themselves.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #53)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:50 PM

54. Thank goodness you don't know my age.

I remember the Jumping Bean craze...but don't remember when that was. lol Yeah, I do vaguely remember those wind up toys...but my memory isn't too good these days.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:07 AM

34. he needs to get his what fer in order

I suppose that if gatling guns had just come on the scene during the revolutionary war
that the framers of the constitution would have approved of citizen ownership of such a gun.
This is basically what this ass clown is implying when he states that the framers would not have been opposed to
a weapon like the bushmaster, etc. circa 2012.

the constitution does need to be amended. it needs to require mental health and IQ screening before
being allowed to run for public office.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:08 AM

35. if i was a betting person i would bet Huelskamp is prolife.

They want to force birth but want rapid fire weapons to swiftly kill anyone in sight. Why doesn't the GOP start enacting laws for gun owners as they have in many states to force ultrasounds so they can see the baby they are about to abort and every time the gun owners picks up a weapon they must see video showing mass killing before they ate able to shoot anyone else. How about something similar to transvaginal probe to the brain of gun owners brains. You see, it is very easy to purchase a gun compared to abortion.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:15 AM

37. Crazy fuck from KS moves them back into the goofiest state edging MO for their idiotic

Legitimate rape candidate.

Nothing against the great folks of Kansas as they are wonderful people. But they have some of the most bizarre politicians.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:21 AM

38. Gun safety is a political agenda........

interesting doesn't the NRA operate under the guise of gun safety and politicize it with their lobbying efforts.

I'm glad Joe called him out.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:29 AM

41. How much money have you received from the NRA, Timmy? nt

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:34 AM

42. Of course it's politicizing it. It's a public tragedy and politics is about fixing public problems.

The whole purpose of politics is to keep us safe and prosperous.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:57 PM

51. After LaPierre's hideous press conference, it is painfully obvious that

R-Douche Bag's comments came directly from an NRA e-mail. Beyond obscene.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:03 PM

52. It's another sign of the Apocalypse...

when most DU'ers find themselves in agreement with Joe Scarborough.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #52)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:45 PM

56. LOL!!I caught myself saying, "GO JOE!!"

Then I was like...wait a minute...huh??

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