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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:14 PM

What happens to the Unemployment Extension?

Does that have to be voted on separately? If we go over the fiscal cliff, does that expire too?

What is happening on this? I haven't heard this being discussed in the media at all. My daughter is very worried. She was told it will have to be voted on before December 29th, or her unemployment will end.

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Reply What happens to the Unemployment Extension? (Original post)
HockeyMom Dec 2012 OP
RomneyLies Dec 2012 #1
julian09 Dec 2012 #4
Recursion Dec 2012 #2
1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #3
pnwmom Dec 2012 #5
1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #6
pnwmom Dec 2012 #8
1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #9
Recursion Dec 2012 #7
customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #10
Recursion Dec 2012 #11
customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #12

Response to HockeyMom (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:16 PM

1. It expires

 

All part of the fiscal cliff.

Boehner and the GOP insured financial crisis.

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:27 PM

4. Thanks to the Gerrymandered States of America

 

We have a dysfunctional house of representatives, run by ideologues.

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Response to HockeyMom (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:16 PM

2. It's done. That and SNAP are the two biggest problems with the cliff

That said, they're pretty easy to fix, too.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:26 PM

3. Yep ...

and a host of other programming that helps the most vulnerable amongst us.

You know ... I was listening to Howard Dean on the Ed Show, cheering on the cliff because "America will come out the other side stronger" because of the cuts.

But he made no mention of those that will be landed on when we go over the cliff ... other than to say, "yeah, there'll be some cuts to social services."

I wondered are the unemployed, the homeless and the working poor just unfortunate pawns in this ideological battle?

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:29 PM

5. There will be a lot of people hurt in the short run -- at least -- and that's why the President

has been trying as hard as he has been.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:32 PM

6. That's what ...

Duers seem not to understand.

I guess single tracted think has it's benefits ... it prevents one from seeing what one doesn't want to see.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:44 PM

8. Some, not all. I'm glad you're hanging in there.

It can be frustrating. Part of the problem is that many of the progressives here aren't actually Democrats; they're members of the Green Party, former Nader followers, or other people who think Obama and the Democrats are only marginally better than the Repubs. If they vote, they tend to vote with the Dems (but not always); but much of the time they're almost as mad at the Dems as they are with the Repubs.

They also somehow think that Obama has dictatorial powers that he just isn't bothering to exercise.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:18 PM

9. I think ...

you're right ... though I, also, think you are far to generous.

But I absolutely agree that many of the poster that are most critical of President Obama need to re-visit 8th grade Civics.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:40 PM

7. Fortunately the House spending bill that just passed still has to go through the Senate

As Mitt Romney, of all people, pointed out during the debates, sequestration ain't gonna happen. The House just passed a spending bill to undo many of the cuts, and then refused to give Boehner even a tiny revenue fig leaf.

And since it was the R's that just blinked rather than the D's, that's a good sign. Too see my larger take on this, http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251266229

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Response to Recursion (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:25 PM

10. How is it easy to fix?

In order to get the UC extension, doc fix, and SNAP, we will have to give up things to the Repukes. What makes you think that they don't want to hold the beneficiaries of those programs hostage?

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:28 PM

11. Obama is now sitting on 2.8 trillion of tax cuts he can offer

He can offer to extend the programs in exchange for tax cuts, dollar for dollar, and still be to the left of the position he last offered Boehner.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:29 PM

12. I know there's the theory

that once the Bush-era cuts expire, then anything from that point forward is a new cut. I don't know how well that idea's going to work in practice. Being as the next Congress is going to look about 95% what this one did, I can't say I hold out a lot of hope.

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