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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:46 AM

Congressman Keith Ellison: ‘We Will NOT Be Voting For Any Cuts’ To Social Security Benefits

Yes! Click the link below to go to a tool to call your Member of Congress, and also to watch the video of Keith.



ELLISON: Well the first thing that we can do is to let them know that we will not be voting for any cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. We’ve already fired off a whole number of missives on that exact point, we’re making our position very clear, we’re organizing caucus members, we’ve got a letter with 102 people on it, saying that we will not vote for anything that cuts Social Security, communicating that to our leadership and the White House. We’re firm on that. We’re talking internally to make sure the people are going to stay strong. And that’s what we’re doing, we’re letting folks know where we stand so they can go back and recalculate and come up with something else. Because we’re not going to solve these fiscal problems of the backs of the seniors, of the disabled, of the survivors.

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Reply Congressman Keith Ellison: ‘We Will NOT Be Voting For Any Cuts’ To Social Security Benefits (Original post)
Report1212 Dec 2012 OP
reformist2 Dec 2012 #1
Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #7
reformist2 Dec 2012 #13
plethoro Dec 2012 #16
closeupready Dec 2012 #2
Report1212 Dec 2012 #6
closeupready Dec 2012 #11
Ganja Ninja Dec 2012 #3
PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #4
BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #18
PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #22
forestpath Dec 2012 #5
Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #8
pennylane100 Dec 2012 #9
Report1212 Dec 2012 #10
n2doc Dec 2012 #12
PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #14
Report1212 Dec 2012 #15
meow2u3 Dec 2012 #24
WillyT Dec 2012 #17
ieoeja Dec 2012 #19
reformist2 Dec 2012 #20
Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #21
olegramps Dec 2012 #23

Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:50 AM

1. 102 house members means we've already got the majority of Dems on board!

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:59 AM

7. Lets hope there are many more

because frankly....we need some good news for a change...

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Response to Harmony Blue (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:10 AM

13. Indeed, if we can get up to 150-160 Dems, Obama will be in huge trouble with his own party.

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:16 PM

16. If you lived on my street, you would know he is already

 

in trouble. They called a street meeting yesterday, which was weird because they haven't done that in 34 years. These folks almost all voted for Obama. They are furious.

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Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:51 AM

2. I called my rep, and told her to please vote no.

Her office stated she opposes any change, but that they are still looking at proposals.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:57 AM

6. Who is your rep? nt

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Response to Report1212 (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:05 AM

11. Nydia Velazquez - love her; she's reliably liberal

on just about every single issue.

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Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:54 AM

3. Good at least somebody has some backbone. n/t

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Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:54 AM

4. Ellison also pledged not to vote for a health care bill that didn't have a public option, then

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:23 PM

18. Contrary to what the propaganda machine has been telling people,

there IS a public option buried within the PPACA.

U.S. Set to Sponsor Health Insurance
By ROBERT PEAR
Published: October 27, 2012

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration will soon take on a new role as the sponsor of at least two nationwide health insurance plans to be operated under contract with the federal government and offered to consumers in every state.

These multistate plans were included in President Obama’s health care law as a substitute for a pure government-run health insurance program — the public option sought by many liberal Democrats and reviled by Republicans. Supporters of the national plans say they will increase competition in state health insurance markets, many of which are dominated by a handful of companies.


I believe it was a misprint by the NYT. It should've read "single-payer" in place of "public option".

That said, the salient point regarding the public option is made by none other than The Heritage Foundation in the same article:

Robert E. Moffit, a senior fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, said he worried that “the nationwide health plans, operating under terms and conditions set by the federal government, will become the robust public option that liberals always wanted.”


Also, there are no cuts being proposed to social security's basic benefits, and Ellison, unlike many people here, knows this darn well. Should Boehner be able to get the TeaBaggers to vote to pass this offer (which is HIGHLY unlikely, and President Obama knows it), it would not constitute any cuts in benefits.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #18)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:52 PM

22. Let's just call it "a reduction in future benefit payments compared to current law". n/t

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Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:55 AM

5. Just called my rep. Couldn't get a straight answer even though I got an email yesterday from

 

the Progressive Change campaign saying he had agreed to vote against any SS cuts (Gerry Connolly, who is a Democrat, VA's 11 District).

I have called his office about this 3 times in the past week.

And I just finally managed to get through on the White House's comment line. But I'm also sending snail mail.

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Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:00 AM

8. emailed mine this morning, will call later today.

we need to let them know our opinions on this.

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Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:02 AM

9. My congressman is a bagger.

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Response to pennylane100 (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:03 AM

10. Doesn't matter

Ask them to vote against a deal. That's all they have to do.

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Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:10 AM

12. The wording gives them an out

The change in chained CPI, as has been pointed out by several ardent Obama supporters here at DU, is not exactly a cut. It is a reduction in the growth of benefits. That's how they can get themselves out of this type of pledge when Pelosi brings the hammer down on them.

That doesn't make it less nasty, given that we already underestimate real inflation in the CPI. Especially for medicine, heating, and food.

I don't support ANY change in benefits, except to increase them. And this is what they should agree to as well.

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Response to n2doc (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:25 AM

14. And Pelosi is going with it "strengthens Social Security". n/t

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Response to n2doc (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:28 AM

15. But in the wording they do say chained CPI is a cut

So that's hard to escape. I'm talking about the official CPC statement.

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Response to n2doc (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:07 PM

24. In the long run, a reduction in the growth of benefits is tantamount to a cut

The chained CPI deliberately understates inflation.

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Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:22 PM

17. K & R !!!


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Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:30 PM

19. They should also NOT vote for Nancy Pelosi or any other cut supporter as Minority Leader.


Give that job to one of the Progressives. Or to one of the non-Progressives who signed this letter. It is way past time to remove the opposition from leadership positions within our party.


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Response to ieoeja (Reply #19)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:32 PM

20. I have to agree. Time for new leadership.

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Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:41 PM

21. This is a set up. They will lose. We need complete

CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:53 PM

23. I e-mailed and called my congressman, no response. He only contacts me when he wants money.

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