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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:08 AM

Isn't It Best Just To Unfriend Wingnuts On Facebook Than Try To Reason With Them?

I have tried over and over to put up with their garbage for years now but after Newtown, I just can't take it anymore. You? How do you deal with them?

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Reply Isn't It Best Just To Unfriend Wingnuts On Facebook Than Try To Reason With Them? (Original post)
SweepPicker Dec 2012 OP
KG Dec 2012 #1
bigwillq Dec 2012 #2
WI_DEM Dec 2012 #3
Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #4
el_bryanto Dec 2012 #5
GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #14
TheOther95Percent Dec 2012 #6
hatrack Dec 2012 #7
edhopper Dec 2012 #8
budkin Dec 2012 #9
erinlough Dec 2012 #10
get the red out Dec 2012 #11
Jennicut Dec 2012 #12
sufrommich Dec 2012 #13
vankuria Dec 2012 #17
narnian60 Dec 2012 #27
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #15
The Wizard Dec 2012 #16
HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #18
ellie Dec 2012 #19
Johonny Dec 2012 #20
Grammy23 Dec 2012 #21
closeupready Dec 2012 #22
Tippy Dec 2012 #23
coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #24
Myrina Dec 2012 #25
treestar Dec 2012 #26
Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #28
kydo Dec 2012 #29
Historic NY Dec 2012 #30
RadiationTherapy Dec 2012 #31
Nay Dec 2012 #35
Aristus Dec 2012 #32
Nay Dec 2012 #33
randome Dec 2012 #34
Rocky888 Dec 2012 #36
SweepPicker Dec 2012 #37
slackmaster Dec 2012 #38

Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:09 AM

1. 'Unfriend' is your friend.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:10 AM

2. Yes (nt)

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:11 AM

3. I just did this week, luckily not a real friend but a 'facebook friend'

who was writing horrible right-wing stuff about Obama and Hillary Clinton. I didn't respond, I just unfriended him. Given the stuff he was posting I don't think you could reason with him.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:11 AM

4. Don't take the bait, just ignore it

It works like that on both sides, reaction feeds reaction, it's like checking your cell phone incessantly, soon it becomes compulsive I have been growing tired of it myself, for me. It's better to stop, take a breath, decide if you feel like you need to engage and if not, just ignore and move on. Try not to break up a "real" friendship over politics if at all possible. IMO

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:12 AM

5. It depends on your relationship with said people

I don't like the idea of giving up on people, though. If all they provide is garbage than, by all means, cut them off. But there has to be a reason you friended them in the first place (unless it's a friend of a friend kind of thing). Figure that out and you can decide whether they are worth maintaining as friends or not.

In general it helps to remember that people we disagree with very strongly are still people.

Bryant

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Response to el_bryanto (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:23 AM

14. Yes, and you can hide posts.

I have this issue with my parent's only male offspring, who has had his mind poisoned by his friends in the Glenn Beckkk fan club. Rather than unfriending him, I just hid all his posts from my newsfeed so that I don't have to see his shit. If he posts some sort of idiotic garbage on one of my threads or on my wall, I just delete it.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:13 AM

6. Depending on the relationship and the nutter factor

I either unfriend or put them on ignore. This go-round anyone who expressed that the root cause of Newton was legal abortion or same sex marriage got kicked to the curb. Those sentiments were expressed by a former high school classmate.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:15 AM

7. Cut them loose - impervious to logic, untouchable by facts, they are unhinged and angry

I don't have enough time in my life to "reach out" and "engage" these assclowns.

It's pointless, and to them it would be a sign of weakness, so piss on them.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:15 AM

8. Facebook is perhaps

the worst place for political debate.
I just ignore those posts. If a real friend occasionally posts that shit I ignore it.
I keep to the things we have in common.
If it's a FB friend only, and they post that kind of shit all the time. I unfriend.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:18 AM

9. Yes x1000. You will never change anyone's mind.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:19 AM

10. I've unfriended some family members

For posting gun porn. I don't even explain, and I don't think they even notice. One friend asked everyone not to post political stuff during the election. So, I unfriended her since I am political. After the election I requested to be her friend again and she was unaware I was gone and apologized that she had posted her admonishment.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:20 AM

11. It depends

Some wingnuts are more offensive with it than others, the worst I unfriend, others I just hide from my newsfeed, some I tolerate because there are some interests we have in common that they pay more attention to than nuttery.

There is zero reasoning with them though, they get their RW talking points from radio or Fox News and it's done, there's no more information that can enter their minds.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:20 AM

12. Don't argue. These people want an argument. They live for it.

Deny them one and it really drives them over the edge. I have conservative parents. Sometimes I chose not to engage them in any debate.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:21 AM

13. If sane people don't speak out,only the

nuts get heard, that is the problem with ignoring them. We've tried ignoring them, it hasn't worked out well for us.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:38 AM

17. I engage them

The only wing nutter I have as a facebook friend is my cousin and I simply give him facts to counter his nonsense and after a few rounds he backs down. Sometimes my liberal friends will engage in the "conversation" and it becomes really lively! I enjoy debate and love a chance to make a fool of a wingnut.

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Response to vankuria (Reply #17)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:27 AM

27. I wish I had more of that attitude in me.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:25 AM

15. Some are not worth trying to change/enlighten ... and they are energy sponges ... they suck your

energy out of you. Drop them, they are only taking you down. And some might vicariously enjoy playing with you!

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:38 AM

16. I ask them

if they've ever tried one of the wonderful Fleet products available at their local drug store.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:43 AM

18. Kill 'em with facts.

. . . and if they're unreachable (i.e. still fighting the Cold War, Paulbot RWNJ, etc) then their ass gets saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacked.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:01 AM

19. That is what I do.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:09 AM

20. If there really your friends you have to take the third way

Hide their comments.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:11 AM

21. In my experience with trying to "reason"---with people (family) on FB----

It got real ugly, real fast. And I could feel my own blood pressure going up. It was not pretty and not nice at all. No minds were changed, either.

For me, I made the decision to just not engage in any political discussion (or rants) on Facebook. I was fully aware of the positions held by the person I was attempting to bring into a sane, rational discussion. It was pointless and frustrating for me to not make even a dent in her hard hearted views. In order to maintain the peace in my family, I just decided to take the high road and realize that hammering home my point (No matter how well intentioned or even well informed I was about the subject) was a futile effort.

It saddened me to have to come to that conclusion because it happened with a couple of very close family members, but in the end I decided for my own health and happiness, I had to do that.

I did not hide the posts, by the way. I just didn't read them, especially if I noticed they were political right off the bat.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:12 AM

22. I'm not on Facebook, but here on DU, I use ignore liberally

as well as trash thread.

Life is too short to waste it.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:14 AM

23. You can't argue with a fool, it's a waste of time

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:19 AM

24. Forget reason, they only understand pictures:

 



or, better yet,

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:21 AM

25. Yes, I got rid of about a dozen in the weeks prior to the election.

If I want to hear Faux screech points, I'll turn on Faux. I don't need them streaming thru my Facebook feed.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:23 AM

26. Try to reason with them

It may stick after a while, and with other people out there they run into also. Ask questions - even if they scoff, they still might end up with a nagging doubt that over time will have an effect. We too often think we have to win them over within one conversation and all by ourselves.

I know where I have evolved on issues, it was not instantly. It was over time, so you are putting some weight on the scale that may one day tip over.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:30 AM

28. I don't.

Unfriend them...you cannot change "beliefs" with rationale or facts.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:31 AM

29. Diapers or Depends

They both end up full of crap much like wing nutters.

But I guess you can compare the two with nutters.

Diapers are for babies and toddlers.

Depends are for adults.

If your nutter is still in diapers (don't matter on brand could be huggies, pampers or cloth), then un-friend that person fast.

If however your nutter is wearing depends, their brains might be able and or ready to understand the basic concept of logic and you might be able to one day have a semi kind of normal rational discussion.

But be prepared and bring lots of tylenol, booze or weed, (like a few years supply), to get you through.

Good Luck, We are all counting on you

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:44 AM

30. Nothing says you have to talk with them...

unfriend and hide follow the facebook instructions. You'll be happier and they won't even notice.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:54 AM

31. Communication seems to me to be all that can stave off a civil war.

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Response to RadiationTherapy (Reply #31)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:14 AM

35. Unfortunately, it takes two to communicate, and both must engage their brains.

It's been my experience that communication is not really possible with people who regurgitate stuff from Limbaugh, Fox, and Beck. RW talking points go straight through the ears, bypass the brain, and emerge from the mouth.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:59 AM

32. That's what I do.

Sometimes it can be tough. I haven't un-friended one guy; an old high school friend. After re-connecting with him on Facebook, I found out he was a rightie. That hurt. It was hard to reconcile that with the sweet, funny, friendly guy I knew in school. He's not a crazed, shit-headed wingnut, but he leans to the right. He's a Benghazi conspiracy theorist, and it's sad to read his updates. There haven't been any for a while. His posts remain mostly non-political, and we can talk at those times.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:09 AM

33. Yes. That's been my experience. nt

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:12 AM

34. You can't argue reason with someone who is wedded to their emotions.

I dislike unfriending anyone. And I never put anyone on DU on Ignore. But people who aren't willing to discuss an issue rationally are best left alone.

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:34 AM

36. Or quit Facebook!

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:11 PM

37. Delete

I've been deleting the extreme gun and FEMA death camp nuts. I cannot believe people actually think this type of stuff. What the hell is the matter with them?

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Response to SweepPicker (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:14 PM

38. I don't have a Facebook account

 

Try it.

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