Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:17 PM
99th_Monkey (9,281 posts)
MoJo: Do Armed Civilians Stop Mass Shooters? Actually, No.
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Do Armed Civilians Stop Mass Shooters? Actually, No.
Five cases commonly cited as a rationale for arming Americans don't stand up to scrutiny.
—By Mark Follman | Mother Jones | Wed Dec. 19, 2012 3:01 AM PS
In the wake of the unthinkable massacre in Connecticut, pro-gun ideologues are once again calling for ordinary citizens to arm themselves as a solution to mass shootings. If only the principal at Sandy Hook Elementary School had possessed a M-4 assault rifle she could've stopped the killer, they say. This latest twist on a long-running argument isn't just absurd on its face; there is no evidence to support it. As I reported recently in our in-depth investigation, not one of the 62 mass shootings in the United States over the last 30 years has been stopped this way. More broadly, attempts by armed civilians to intervene in shooting rampages are rare—and are successful even more rarely. (Two people who tried it in recent years were gravely wounded or killed.) And law enforcement overwhelmingly hates the idea.
Those pesky facts haven't stopped the "arm America more!" crowd from pressing the argument with alleged examples of successful armed interventions. The problem is, the few examples they keep using—in which they depict plain old folks acting heroically and with definitive results—fall apart under scrutiny. Here are five of them and why they don't work:
*Appalachian School of Law shooting in Grundy, Virginia
Gun rights die-hards frequently credit the end of a rampage at the law school in 2002 to armed "students" who intervened. They conveniently ignore that those students also happened to be current and former law enforcement officers, and that the killer, according to police investigators, was out of ammunition by the time they got to him. (continued at link below)
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Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:24 PM
pipoman (11,395 posts)
1. Stopping mass shooters isn't the job of people who carry..
protecting themselves and their families is the purpose of carrying concealed. Not stopping robberies, not intervening in domestic issues, and not patrolling the neighborhood...simple self defense when there is no other option.
Some guilty go free so less innocent are wrongly convicted..