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Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:21 PM

Wow! Boehner just did a hit and run now, didn't he?

Looks like he's going to try to hammer Grover Norquist's Plan B through tomorrow and try to hang the President with the label of "tax raiser". Did you see that "press conference?"

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Reply Wow! Boehner just did a hit and run now, didn't he? (Original post)
Skidmore Dec 2012 OP
unblock Dec 2012 #1
spanone Dec 2012 #2
Blaukraut Dec 2012 #3
unblock Dec 2012 #5
JoePhilly Dec 2012 #7
RomneyLies Dec 2012 #13
Blaukraut Dec 2012 #18
pscot Dec 2012 #20
RomneyLies Dec 2012 #21
shraby Dec 2012 #8
bowens43 Dec 2012 #10
Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #17
SugarShack Dec 2012 #4
MNBrewer Dec 2012 #9
Little Star Dec 2012 #6
blueclown Dec 2012 #12
spanone Dec 2012 #14
Johonny Dec 2012 #23
Firebrand Gary Dec 2012 #11
Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #15
Zoeisright Dec 2012 #16
lpbk2713 Dec 2012 #19
DearAbby Dec 2012 #22

Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:23 PM

1. much as i enjoy seeing republicans cry, no, i missed it.

plan b from outer space will go nowhere even if it does pass the house.

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Response to unblock (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:23 PM

2. about 10 seconds long.

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:24 PM

3. Trying to take away Obama's advantage

If he manages to get his plan B passed before the fiscal cliff, Obama won't have the leverage of letting the tax cuts expire and reinstate a tax cut for 250k and below.

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Response to Blaukraut (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:25 PM

5. but no way can it pass the senate. it's just for show.

this is why i think we're going off the cliff.

both sides are posturing.

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Response to Blaukraut (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:26 PM

7. It won't pass the Senate. Reid won't even bring it for a vote.

Boehner is blustering, nothing more.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:29 PM

13. Actually, Reid MUST bring it up for a vote.

 

It's an amendment to a bill already passed by the House, then amended by the Senate and sent back to the House.

Procedurally, Reid has no choice but to bring it up for a vote.

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:38 PM

18. Boehner will add his plan to a joint resolution so it has to be voted on in Senate

http://www.rollcall.com/news/rules_panel_uses_shell_resolution_to_ease_path_for_boehner_tax_plan-220158-1.html?pos=oplyh


Speaker John A. Boehner’s proposed fallback plan to deal with the tax rate increases looming at the end of the year would give Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid what might be a much-needed Christmas present.
When the House Rules Committee gave formal notice of a meeting to set up floor debate for test votes on two proposals to extend some expiring tax rates, the panel’s advisory noted the measures would be offered as substitute amendments to a carefully selected but wholly unrelated bill.
The shell of a joint resolution that began as a routine annual extension of import restrictions on Myanmar will become the legislative vehicle selected for the “plan B” by Boehner, R-Ohio. The measure (H J Res 66) has already passed through both the House and Senate in different forms, which may give it obscure procedural advantages that could cut down on the time needed to approve a final fiscal cliff deal.



Using the Myanmar sanctions vehicle has another advantage in the House. There is no opportunity for the House Democrats to offer their own amendment in the form of a motion to recommit the measure.
For the GOP, the measure that Boehner on Tuesday termed his “plan B” should talks with the White House break down also is part of a voting track the speaker is using to counter objections from House conservatives that it asks them in effect to vote for a tax increase. Boehner’s office emphasized Monday the speaker’s favored amendment “does not raise taxes. It is a net tax cut that prevents a $4.6 trillion tax hike on Jan. 1.” That rhetorical point is built in part on the current law that has taxes jumping at the start of the New Year.

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:59 PM

20. he can bring it up, then filibuster

we have a precedent for that.

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Response to pscot (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:05 PM

21. Nope, you cannot filibuster a joint committee bill in the Senate.

 

Boehner used Senate rules to his advantage on this one.

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Response to Blaukraut (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:26 PM

8. I believe there is already one similar waiting in the house that the senate already

passed. If the house votes on their version, they just need reconciled and the bill is good to go.
Unless the house one is drastically different.

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Response to Blaukraut (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:26 PM

10. Huh? How do you figure.

Nothing changes. It's dead in the senate

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Response to Blaukraut (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:37 PM

17. Epic fail on Boehner's fault. He's grandstanding before the cameras and appeasing his Teabaggers.

It's bullshit. And for once, we shouldn't fall for it!

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:25 PM

4. Boehner wants to protect rich workers, while most of American's agreed to RAISE TAXES! yes!

 

people who earn like 989K??? Really? Boehner is nuts. The wars have come due. How unpatriotic of those repubs.

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Response to SugarShack (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:26 PM

9. Rich "workers"

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:26 PM

6. Seems like he's pretty sure he has the votes for his PlanB. ugh

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Response to Little Star (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:28 PM

12. In the House, perhaps.

But not in the Senate.

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Response to Little Star (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:33 PM

14. the guy from politico on m$nbc said he doesn't have the votes....we'll see

harry reid isn't going to bring it up for a vote...it's bullshit posturing

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Response to spanone (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:37 PM

23. pretty much, I was going on the I'll believe it when I see it

I can't tell if he's trying to pressure Obama to back it so he will have enough house Dems to pass it or he is going to somehow twist enough Republicans arms? Which is something a lot of people doubt. If he needs the Dems then he needs to use the Dems 400,000 K number at least... fake drama so exciting

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:27 PM

11. That guy is an asshole. nt

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:35 PM

15. It's not going to pass the senate.

That was just his way of saying "I have no control over these nutty Teabaggers, and they scare me!"

Get your parachutes out. It looks like we're cliff diving.

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:35 PM

16. Like the cowardly little eunuch he is.

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:43 PM

19. They won't be happy until the entire country is completely in ruins.




Their damned obstructionism has brought us close enough to the brink as it is.
They would rather ruin the country than do anything that might be perceived as
going along with the Dems or more specifically Obama.


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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:32 PM

22. And Boehner picks PARTY over Country

really, was anyone surprised? The man has no cajones.

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