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Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:15 PM

Isn't it better to just have no deal then cut social security and other critical programs?

My friend said this the other day, the Democrats will be in a much stronger position if they just tell the GOP to fuck off on their stupid attempts to cut social programs in a deal making process, and let all the taxes rise in January, then come back with a series of tax cuts ONLY for middle class people and lower in the Senate, and then watch if the republicans will vote against tax cuts for the middle class. Which would very likely be too much to swallow for most of the republicans, and so they would have to go along with it and the wealthy would be stuck with their tax increases while everyone else would get back a tax cut.

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Reply Isn't it better to just have no deal then cut social security and other critical programs? (Original post)
quinnox Dec 2012 OP
woofless Dec 2012 #1
unblock Dec 2012 #2
byeya Dec 2012 #3
R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #4
Little Star Dec 2012 #5
fleur-de-lisa Dec 2012 #6
rhett o rick Dec 2012 #7
No Compromise Dec 2012 #8
kentuck Dec 2012 #9
treestar Dec 2012 #10
Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #11

Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:20 PM

1. Yes.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:21 PM

2. i think that's broadly what will happen.

with the exception that obama can't actually say "fuck off". instead, he has to look like he's being reasonable while giving republicans something short of what he knows they can accept. republicans reject it but obama looks like he's trying instead of looking like a jerk.

but the other problem is the across-the-board spending cuts, which no one will like. republicans, as usual, will hold the economy and programs for the needy hostage while they extract their pound of flesh. but i think the dynamic will be better for us in january.

we shall see....

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:24 PM

3. I think it's better to have no deal at present. Dealing with the current Repug leadership,

 

when it might change a little next Congress, is not in our best interests.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:25 PM

4. It would be much better to tell the repigs to fuck off now and negotiate for


the middle class in the new year.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:34 PM

5. Yes.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:37 PM

6. Hell yes!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:13 PM

7. Yes. I think the Democrats are always negotiating from behind. We should demand to lower

the Medicare age to 55, cut defense 10%, and cut corporate welfare 100%.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:40 PM

8. lower the retirement age which will create jobs, cut the pentagon 50% and I'm with ya

 

There are so many better ways to fix this mess, even a 3rd grader could come up with a better solution than the US Congress.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:46 PM

9. What it means...

...is that the entire 4 years of the Obama 2nd term will be fought over spending cuts. Because there is not enough revenue to fund the government. Because the President attempted to make a deal that would accomplish just that. Perhaps he will be saved by the Republican stupidity?

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:10 PM

10. That is the vague part

Supposedly the economy would go south, which some consider to be worse. I'm not sure I understand why it would harm the economy or how much, but that's the theory.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:11 PM

11. HELL YEAH it is. nt

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