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Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:53 PM

Here's what I did about Chained CPI

I sent an email to the White House. I sent emails to my congresswoman, Betty Mc Collum. I sent emails to Al Franken and Amy Klobuchar, my Senators. I also sent emails to all the other 7 House members from my state. I told them that I wanted and expected them to fight against that or any other changes to Social Security that would affect benefits for today's and future seniors.

I didn't call anyone a Republican in Democrat's clothing. I didn't use any words like liar or traitor, or anything of the sort. I made my case against it, and asked for their opposition to it. I've had positive replies from Betty McCollum, Amy Klobuchar and Al Franken.

They don't read DU. If I want to send my legislators a message, I send it to them. I don't post it here. Like most people, my time is limited, so I try to put my activism where it has a chance of making a difference.

Now, I do not know what the result will be in the end, but I never do. All I can do is make a case.

It's interesting to discuss things on DU, but I never do so while thinking that our discussions here are activism. They are not. Nobody here plays any role in the Congress, and that's where this will be decided. If you want to be an activist, aim your arguments at those who make a difference. We can discuss them here, but that won't change a thing.

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MineralMan Dec 2012 OP
CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #1
SharonAnn Dec 2012 #28
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #48
Autumn Dec 2012 #2
MineralMan Dec 2012 #4
pinto Dec 2012 #3
1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #9
pinto Dec 2012 #53
1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #5
tazkcmo Dec 2012 #6
MineralMan Dec 2012 #14
ananda Dec 2012 #7
MineralMan Dec 2012 #16
RomneyLies Dec 2012 #8
Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #10
MineralMan Dec 2012 #12
Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #18
MineralMan Dec 2012 #19
Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #20
MineralMan Dec 2012 #21
Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #22
tk2kewl Dec 2012 #11
MineralMan Dec 2012 #13
iandhr Dec 2012 #15
LongTomH Dec 2012 #17
Liberalynn Dec 2012 #23
MineralMan Dec 2012 #25
Liberalynn Dec 2012 #24
MineralMan Dec 2012 #26
grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #27
spedtr90 Dec 2012 #29
MineralMan Dec 2012 #31
Cha Dec 2012 #30
MineralMan Dec 2012 #32
bongbong Dec 2012 #33
Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #34
mac56 Dec 2012 #35
glinda Dec 2012 #47
MineralMan Dec 2012 #51
spooky3 Dec 2012 #36
JDPriestly Dec 2012 #37
silvershadow Dec 2012 #38
MineralMan Dec 2012 #43
silvershadow Dec 2012 #54
SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2012 #39
khan8 Dec 2012 #40
jtuck004 Dec 2012 #41
Worried senior Dec 2012 #42
HiPointDem Dec 2012 #44
MineralMan Dec 2012 #49
msanthrope Dec 2012 #57
AnnieK401 Dec 2012 #45
wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #46
The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2012 #50
MineralMan Dec 2012 #52
The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2012 #55
MineralMan Dec 2012 #56
mac56 Dec 2012 #60
ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2012 #58
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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:55 PM

1. You go right to the heart of it as usual, my dear Mineral Man.

Well done.

K&R

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:11 PM

28. Yes, and he's right. What are we doing about our concerns?

Wailing on DU is cathartic but not the same as action.

We need to point that out to each other once in a while.

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:46 PM

48. I emailed the Whitehouse also, not wasting my time emailing Ken Calvert.

 

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:57 PM

2. Happy to rec this

I have made my calls and e mails and followed that with copied snail mails. Without DU to discuss it, I would go crazy. Now it's a matter of waiting.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:59 PM

4. Thanks for doing that.

You're right. Discussions on DU are a good thing, but they're no substitute for direct contact with those who will make the decisions. Thanks for your good activism!

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:58 PM

3. Yeah. Discussion / info here is great. The House / Senate is where it will effectively play out.

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Response to pinto (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:09 PM

9. The Discussion and ...

Information here is usually great; but I find it less and less trust worthy when that information has President Obama's name in the text.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:44 PM

53. Yeah we can discuss, debate. It's a discussion forum, fwiw. Yet, Congress has the vote at this point

They need to step up. In some way shape or form.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:06 PM

5. You mean ...

you acted as an adult?!?

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:07 PM

6. Me too n/t

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Response to tazkcmo (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:18 PM

14. That's terrific! Thanks.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:08 PM

7. I signed some petitions, one to the White House.

There's no point in calling my senators or congresspersons. It's Texas.

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Response to ananda (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:21 PM

16. You might be surprised. Those Republicans need to hear from

constituents, too, and it's not only Democrats who oppose changes in SS benefits. Your call or email will count. It's never a waste. If there are no communications in opposition, they'll assume there is no opposition. Communicate with your legislators, no matter what their party is. It's important. A petition, no matter how many have signed it, does not have the same impact as a pile of emails or snail mail letters. Legislators have to be elected. Hearing from constituents, on either side, is influential.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:08 PM

8. The senators are the most important

 

We only need 41 to stop the catfood COLAs.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:10 PM

10. THANK YOU SO MUCH!! You're not sitting on a blog or forum, crying, bitching or moaning!

You, unlike many here, are being proactive and doing your civic duty! Everyone should be picking up the phone, typing emails, writing letters, or all three! As someone who worked on the Hill for many years, proaction works! It scares the shit out of our elected officials!!!

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:17 PM

12. You're welcome, but I've been doing that regularly for

just short of 50 years. It works, it's effective, and it's something anyone can do. I still use snail mail for some things, but email is the tool of today.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:30 PM

18. I hear you. I wish more Americans were like you. A phone call. A letter. They work!

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #18)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:34 PM

19. Everyone can do it, in the same time it takes to post

here on DU. It's just posting on a different website. It's not that big a deal, really. I'm always surprised that more people don't take advantage of that easy form of communication.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:35 PM

20. ...the most effective form of communication, too! Not sitting on a message board crying all day long

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:37 PM

21. Two different venues; two different functions.

Of course, some original posts on DU are not about making real changes happen, but about something else altogether.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #21)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:38 PM

22. I agree wholeheartedly!!

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:15 PM

11. email body sent to POTUS, my senators and rep:

I have been paying into SS for 40+ years and I do not want to see any cuts to SS benefits including new ways to calculate COLA such as CPI.

Taxes should be raised and the debt owed to the SS Trust Fund should be paid back.

To cut benefits and not raise taxes to pay back the funds borrowed from the SS Trust fund is nothing less than stealing working class peoples' paid for benefits to pay for the tax breaks to the wealthy that have created our deficit.

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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:17 PM

13. Excellent! It doesn't have to be long.

Thanks for your activism.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:18 PM

15. Thank you

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:27 PM

17. Phone calls can be very effective

You'll get a busy signal from the White House direct comment line (1-202-456-1111). You'll have better luck going through the switchboard: 1-202-456-1414. Choose option 1 and stay on the line until you get a live volunteer.

To get phone numbers for your Congresspersons, go to Project Vote Smart.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:41 PM

23. I have been calling my reps. Sen, and the WhiteHouse

I didn't name call either, just said I think Chained CPI is something I consdier a cut, and mistaken policy, and unfair to seniors.

I sent emails too. I did contact Senator Ried and Minority Leader Pelosi. I did this because they are in leadership positions for the whole party. The only one I haven't contacted is Boner which I plan to do because he is leadership for his party.

I feel strange about calling other Senators or Congress people who don't represent my district or even writing them though, if they are not in leadership positions. In my view that's taking their time away from their constiutents, who deserve to be heard first by their reps.

I don't want to keep calling the same people, over and over, like a broken record, I've already contacted themtwice by the phone, and once through emails. But I am still anxious and frustrated over what I consider a horrible policy so what can I do now that is productive? I'm serious.


I've already signed pettions, facebooked, and tweeted too.

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Response to Liberalynn (Reply #23)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:04 PM

25. Thanks for doing that.

It doesn't really work to constantly contact the same people about the same issue. So, there's really no need to do that. Probably the very best thing is to try to get others who agree with you to contact their legislators. That's something we can all do in other venues, like DU, and also through our personal connections. Focus on those you now are on the same side as you are, and ask them to send communications to their legislators. I think that's the very best action to take once you have made your legislators and other leaders aware of your opinion.

It's a numbers game, really. In a few cases, you may actually know your legislators, through campaign or other activities, or through regular communications. In those cases, your communications carry a bit more weight. But beyond that, it's a matter of numbers. For the most part, the legislators, themselves, don't actually read correspondence directed to them. They get far too much of it for that. Aides and staff, however, do read them, and tabulate them, reporting the numbers to the actual legislator.

If you have a relationship with your legislator, your communications may go in the pile for the legislator to read personally. For that, though, the relationship has to go beyond just meeting the legislator once. Campaigning for someone is the very best way to form a relationship, and that's a lot of work.

The only legislator I have an actual relationship with is my congresswoman, Betty McCollum. She knows me through my work with the DFL in my own district, so she recognizes me by sight and name. I'm in her list of people who get correspondence passed along. But she's the only one. I've met my senators a couple of times, but I'm sure they don't know me.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:56 PM

24. Called Boner's office

No I didn't call him Boner on the line but his chosen pronunciation. I even used his title.

Left message that I hope that both he and the President would remove Chained CPI from Fiscal Cliff request as it was a bad idea that hurts seniors and disabled disproportionately and would hurt both Democrats and Republicans alike. Now I am going to try and quit thinking about this for awhile.

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Response to Liberalynn (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:05 PM

26. Excellent. Thanks for doing that!

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:08 PM

27. Congressional Switchboard: 202-224-3121; White House: 202-456-1414

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:18 PM

29. What was the positive reply from Klobuchar?

I called her office yesterday and all a staffer would say was the senator has not made a statement on the issue.

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Response to spedtr90 (Reply #29)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:26 PM

31. She said that she is opposed to reductions in benefits for SS recipients.

That's a little wishy-washy, I know. But, Amy Klobuchar is not the most progressive Democrat in the Senate. She keeps being re-elected by walking a line. In almost all cases, though, she votes with the Democratic caucus. I can only remember a couple of issues where she didn't. She's not an activist, by any means, but she's a reliable vote. She'll be in the Senate for a long time. I'm not as strong in my support of her as I am in support of Franken. But, she's a reliable Democratic vote and does a good job for issues that affect Minnesota. She has strong bipartisan support here, mainly because she's very active in helping Minnesotans with issues having to do with the Federal Government. She's a Senator who works directly for her constituents. That's a tried and true method for longevity in the Senate, and she's very good at it. Besides, she's a really nice person, and it's very difficult not to like her as a person.

Betty McCollum said she would not support Chained CPI for Social Security. Al Franken said the same thing, although not as directly. It's all as I expected. Their actual votes will be in line with whatever the Democratic Caucuses decide, frankly. That's why it's so important that everyone communicate with their own legislators.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:23 PM

30. Thanks for doing what is beneficial, MineralMan!

Disrespectful hate is the republicons' area of expertise.

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Response to Cha (Reply #30)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:27 PM

32. Thanks. I try to do what actually works.

I'm too old to chase rainbows anymore.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:30 PM

33. Just got thru to the White House comment line!

 

WOO HOO!

I let the volunteer have a dose of reality about how the 1% have done so well, and that S.S pays for itself and is in the Black, and more.

On hold for 15 minutes but it was worth it.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:32 PM

34. Yesterday Pelosi's office had no idea Nancy was on TV saying this stuff.

I bet they know about it now.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:33 PM

35. You rock, MM

Got me inspired.

Fellow Minnesotan here, from the Fighting 8th District. Cravaack is my current representative, but Nolan will be sworn in next month.

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Response to mac56 (Reply #35)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:46 PM

47. oooo mac56....where are you? I know...counting the days til Cravaack is gone.

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Response to mac56 (Reply #35)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:48 PM

51. So do you! Getting rid of Cravaak was a great job!

You folks did it!

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:34 PM

36. I also wrote both of my Senators. I believe my Rep. is already on board.

But I may decide to write him as well.

So far I received only an auto-reply from one of the Senators, thanking me for sharing opinions.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:38 PM

37. I called and e-mailed.

I agree with you, Mineral Man.

DUers should write and call and keep writing and calling. And get everyone you know to write and call. This is a true emergency.

We are giving nearly a trillion dollars to Pakistan. If we can afford that, we can afford the CPI we now have. Americans should come first.

Where is the money going to Pakistan to come from? The pockets of the elderly?

How does that make Congress any better than the killer at Sandy Hook?

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:38 PM

38. Thank you for this post. I am off now to email my congressman, Senators, and the WH. nt

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Response to silvershadow (Reply #38)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:18 PM

43. Thank you for doing that.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #43)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 07:48 PM

54. I talked to Sen. Lugar's office and Sen. Coats' office. I emailed the WH. Also left a message for

Senator-elect Donnelly. I made it *very clear this is the wrong way to go. I mentioned 2014. I told them all that if they don't get this right, I will consider running for elective office next go-around.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:51 PM

39. I keep tweeting Obama and sending emails to the White House

Will add Boxer & Feinstein to the list.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:52 PM

40. me too

thanks for the update on phone numbers - I called yesterday & got a recording saying the switchboard closes at 5 pm (it was 4:15 here). I sent an e mail to the white house, I've signed petitions, I called Sen. McCaskill's office. I spoke with an aide. Called back to be sure she recalled the views I presented & spoke with another aide. I've signed more petitions today & I've urged my FB friends to do the same. At least DO something. I will be calling the WH again today.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:53 PM

41. "aim your arguments at those who make a difference". Exactly. Voters. Neighbors.


And encourage them to do exactly what you suggested.

Arguing on DU is educational, and thus valuable. The lessons from these people who have studied history and science are invaluable. Oh, and, the kitty pics. Can't forget the kitty pics.

Thank you.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:12 PM

42. I too have signed petitions

I called the White House, e-mailed the White House, tweeted Pelosi & Reid, have tweeted PBO and called Senator Kohl. No point in calling Johnson and Ribble because they have their heads up the Koch Brother's rear ends.

Trying to do the right thing and trying not to be critical in my messages.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:18 PM

44. 1) others have done the same. 2) we know for a fact both the media & government people

 

read DU, because some of them have posted here & material from here has appeared in the media. 3) lurkers from the general public read here 4) yes, this is a discussion board, so what's the problem?

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #44)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:47 PM

49. Clearly, from my post count, I also participate on DU.

That wasn't my point. One can do both. The direct communications are more effective. What is it, exactly, that you find fault with in my post?

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #49)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:08 PM

57. That one should ring a bell. And I also let Senators Toomey and Casey know my opinion. nt

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:35 PM

45. I e-mailed the WH

Unfortunately my Rep. and one of my Senators are conservative Tea Party supporters.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:41 PM

46. k & r! nt

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:48 PM

50. Just emailed Klobuchar, Franken and Keith Ellison.

I hope everybody who is concerned about this or any other issue contacts their Congresscritters right away. Just ranting on DU is not especially productive except to blow off steam. Letting the people who can do something know how you think is how things actually get done.

Thanks for the reminder.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #50)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:52 PM

52. Thanks for the emails!

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:45 PM

55. I got this response from Amy Klobuchar:

Thank you very much for taking the time to send me your thoughts on the future of Social Security.

Social Security is a fundamental part of our nation's social and economic fabric. For generations, it has been a stable and secure retirement guarantee for all Americans. Social Security is our nation's most successful domestic program, providing an essential safety net and ensuring a decent retirement for Americans who've worked hard their whole lives. It also provides vital support for Americans with disabilities, the surviving spouses and children of deceased workers.

I believe it is important that we take the steps necessary to ensure the future solvency of our Social Security program. Our nation needs to plan ahead and work toward a bipartisan solution to make Social Security more secure for the long term. I am confident that we can responsibly address any projected funding shortfalls and ensure that Social Security remains a vital part of retirement for future generations.

Please know that I will fight against risky schemes that would privatize Social Security and turn it from a guarantee of a secure retirement into a gamble where only the big financial companies on Wall Street would be the sure winners.

Again, thank you for taking the time to contact me. One of the most important parts of my job is listening to what the people of Minnesota have to say to me. I am here in our nation's capital to do the public's business and to serve the people of our state. I hope you will contact me again about matters of concern to you.


Sincerely,
Amy Klobuchar
United States Senator


Meh.



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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #55)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:01 PM

56. That's Amy.

But, she will vote with the Democratic caucus. She will always equivocate before things are settled, though.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #56)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:38 AM

60. this

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:33 PM

58. +100000000 - THEY gotta hear it from us.

Grousing here is satisfying but it is NOT "activism".

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:59 AM

59. I called and Tweeted so far

Diana Degette Michael Bennet and Mark Udall. I will harp as long as possible.

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