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Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:31 PM

Camden NJ gun buyback. This is astounding.









http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/19/1171901/-Gun-Buyback-in-Camden-NJ-Yields-Huge-Trove-of-Weapons

Forgive me if this has been diaried earlier. I just saw astonishing photos from the recent gun buyback program in Camden, NJ that took place last weekend in the wake of the mass murders in Sandy Hook.

In addition to the developing White House response and the many citizen petitions, we should take advantage of the public's renewed desire to voluntarily give back their guns.

According to Philly.com::

A state-sponsored cash-for-guns program for Camden County residents picked up 1,137 firearms over two days, a record number for the state, officials said Tuesday.

New Jersey's attorney general said some of the gun owners who showed up at two Camden churches Friday and Saturday appeared to be motivated by the mass killings Friday at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut....



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Reply Camden NJ gun buyback. This is astounding. (Original post)
Skidmore Dec 2012 OP
a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #1
ellisonz Dec 2012 #2
Skidmore Dec 2012 #3
ellisonz Dec 2012 #4
Skidmore Dec 2012 #8
ellisonz Dec 2012 #10
a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #7
Squinch Dec 2012 #22
a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #23
lastlib Dec 2012 #24
CreekDog Dec 2012 #36
a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #5
ellisonz Dec 2012 #9
a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #13
ellisonz Dec 2012 #14
a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #16
Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #17
OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #28
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #6
OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #31
Ganja Ninja Dec 2012 #11
bongbong Dec 2012 #12
a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #15
NightWatcher Dec 2012 #18
PD Turk Dec 2012 #19
Dems to Win Dec 2012 #20
oldbanjo Dec 2012 #25
KittyWampus Dec 2012 #33
xchrom Dec 2012 #21
graham4anything Dec 2012 #26
Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #32
graham4anything Dec 2012 #35
Myrina Dec 2012 #27
OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #30
KittyWampus Dec 2012 #34
OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #37
HockeyMom Dec 2012 #29

Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:33 PM

1. wow...

 

That's a lot of guns...

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:40 PM

2. The gun crowd will tell you...

...that buybacks don't work because only "old" guns are turned in and that criminals use them to get rid of crime guns. They've gone as far in some places as staking out across the street and trying to buy the guns from people who want to turn them in. They are wrong, wrong, wrong.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:42 PM

3. Andrea Mitchell just reported on this buyback and she said that 90% of these guns

were in working order.

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:45 PM

4. It would be my guess...

...that in the long run these programs pay for themselves too.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:58 PM

8. I would think so too.

Reduction in crime rates and injury or death due to gun violence are just starters. How much safer can people feel in their communities because there are less of this type of weaponry around? Have we forgotten how to feel safe?

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:01 PM

10. "Have we forgotten how to feel safe?"

No, but we sure are confused about how to get to that point.

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:57 PM

7. dumb question: who is Andrea Mitchell? n/t

 

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Response to a geek named Bob (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:51 PM

22. She's a reporter/anchor on MSNBC

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Response to Squinch (Reply #22)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:52 PM

23. oh, that explains it...

 

I haven't watched TV since I took it apart

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Response to Squinch (Reply #22)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:04 PM

24. "Reporter"

emphasis on the quotation marks.....

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:47 PM

36. Many were "community guns" --guns hidden around town for anyone to use

"According to Chiesa, “plenty” — although he could not give a precise figure — had been “community guns,” stored in Dumpsters or under street lights and available to anyone who knows their location."

http://www.nj.com/camden/index.ssf/2012/12/camden_cash-for-guns_program.html#incart_river_default

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:53 PM

5. sources? n/t

 

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:06 PM

13. thanks

 

It looks like those three articles are providing proof that the buy-backs need some more planning...

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Response to a geek named Bob (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:07 PM

14. Or that the gun crowd need to stop sabotaging them!

What type of scum of the earth opposes taking unwanted weapons off the street?

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:10 PM

16. if that's not a rhetorical question, I can only make guesses n/t

 

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:11 PM

17. I used to know some coppers who would do just that.

Wait outside the gun buy-back and pick off the primo and antique valuable guns.

cops/criminals - a fine line.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:17 PM

28. Can't you just be happy and proud of citizens of Camden...

 

for at least one post before you start in with putting words in people's mouths and pointing out how right you are?

Jeez, this turnout is awesome and I'd guess that a lot of the 'gun crowd' turned out to sell back their weapons.

I'm from Philadelphia and know Camden...if this can happen there it can happen any and everywhere; this is a beautiful thing to see.

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:55 PM

6. I am glad all those side arms are off the streets

But that photo has not one AR or AK family riffle that I can spot.

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:02 PM

11. Yeah but look at that pile.

Outside of the pistols for the most part I see Rifles and Shotguns not Assault Weapons but old hunting guns. Every little bit helps but I wonder if some of the buy back money is going toward the purchase of newer and deadlier weapons.

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:02 PM

12. Those guns

 

Will make some nice plowshares.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:07 PM

15. 'cuz when you've been hit with a plowshare, you know it... n/t

 

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:18 PM

18. looks like garbage guns to me. If they would only offer more $$$ (maybe closer to market value)

And focus the buyback to WORKING handguns and dangerous weapons. A rusted out break barrel 20 gauge shotgun shouldnt be what they pay for. This is a waste of money for whomever is putting on the buy back.

Maybe they could get the money from the buy backs from criminal fines for people illegally using firearms or other sources. I doubt anyone would take a $1000 gun and give it up for the max of $250 that was offered in cash or grocery vouchers.

It may look impressive all stacked up like that to someone who doesnt know too much about firearms, but it looks like a waste of money and effort to me.

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:52 PM

19. Dusty,rusty old guns

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Most probably unused and unkept for years, in a closet or attic, most of what I see in the pics is just plain old junk, and that's mostly what they'll get unless they increase what they are willing to pay.

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:25 PM

20. People who love children more than guns are turning them in. Bravo

They don't want to take even an infinitesimal chance that the guns will be stolen and used to massacre human beings. They don't want to be the next Nancy Lanza.

People who love guns more than they love children are frantically buying more and higher powered guns. Their selfish desire to play with lethal toys blinds them to the risk of their hobby. They don't care that they are taking the chance their guns will be used to massacre children in the local elementary school.

It sickens me that more Americans are frantically buying weapons, and bragging about it, than there are Americans melting down their guns.

Some days its hard to love my country.

Repeal the Second Amendment Now.

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Response to Dems to Win (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:05 PM

25. People who have no money but do have junk guns are bring them in.

They better watch the police or some of the good guns will go home. A lot of police have lost jobs their for carrying guns home from the police Dept.

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Response to oldbanjo (Reply #25)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:40 PM

33. it's been specifically stated in this thread that 90% are in working order

access to too many guns is a huge issue.

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:30 PM

21. Excellent. Nt

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:11 PM

26. OF COURSE, not one of the guns belonged to any person resembling the shooter I bet

 

you know, the racist stereotype that NRA and others promote as for their reason for needing a gun

you know, like Zimmerman was fearful of in Florida when he followed and killed an unarmed man

Isn't irony something though? All the decades of talk about who "THEY" are afraid of, and 99% of the mass killings is done by those that look just like the ones who are the face of the NRA

I bet NONE of these guns were from NRA members.

Imagine if, like people burned their draft cards in the 60s, people took to the streets and burned their NRA memberships

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #26)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:37 PM

32. I think I just threw the card out.

I should've taped it to some cardboard and shot holes in it

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Response to Glaug-Eldare (Reply #32)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:45 PM

35. lol

 

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:15 PM

27. So do people take the $ and go to the gun store for something newer, bigger, meaner?

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Response to Myrina (Reply #27)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:26 PM

30. Yes, of course...

 

That's the whole idea.

I'm shocked, SHOCKED that people here don't see this for what it is !!!!!

Most of the guns in the picture are 'gateway guns', small caliber, do very little damage. Once you've shot enough small animals and other targets provided by Almighty God for just that purpose, then you naturally want to move on to larger weapons that cause as much harm and carnage as possible.

I'm so glad you had the fearlessness to lay bare the truth (!!).

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Response to OneMoreDemocrat (Reply #30)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:43 PM

34. do you have any actual proof of what you just wrote? Any reports on these buybacks?


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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #34)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:15 PM

37. Nope, I made it up...

 

But, I DO have this:





That good enough?

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Response to Skidmore (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:20 PM

29. NJ has a Republican Governor

AND is in the Connecticut Tri-State Area. Why aren't MORE people demanding their gun rights, as are so many going on a gun owning spree in other states far, far away from Sandy Hook?

Culture.

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