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Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:48 PM

Stand Your Ground at the Pizza Joint

Let me get this right: one customer shoots another because the victim was "whiny" about not getting his pizza on time and a shoving matches ensued. The shooter then uses the "Stand Your Ground Law" as justification. I am surprised he was even arrested.

I thought this was an "Onion" article. Sadly, I was wrong.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/18/stand-your-ground-cited-in-shooting-of-whiny-little-caesars-pizza-customer/

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kairos12 Dec 2012 OP
ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #1
iwillalwayswonderwhy Dec 2012 #2
ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #5
liberal N proud Dec 2012 #3
neverforget Dec 2012 #4

Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:01 PM

1. You should not be surprised.

The cops worked the investigation like they were supposed to.

"Stand your ground" is not a reason to shoot someone, it is a reason not to run away. To claim SYG (at a later time), one must first claim self defense for the shooting. In this case the self defense claim could not be justified, therefor SYG was never actually in play.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:07 PM

2. But somebody who does not understand the law, but has a gun

Is gonna THINK he has the right to shoot you. He is going to jail, but meanwhile, you are still shot.

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Response to iwillalwayswonderwhy (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:26 PM

5. True, but that has nothing to do with SYG.

This misunderstanding of when lethal self defense is allowed and when it is not has existed long before SYG had a sound-byte name.

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:09 PM

3. We are now in the wild - wild west that was depicted in the westerns of the 60's

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:18 PM

4. A responsible concealed carry holder. Not.

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