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Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:17 PM

School gunman Adam Lanza may have snapped over fears mother was going to send him to psychiatric fac

Bloodthirsty child killer Adam Lanza might have snapped, and carried out his unspeakable atrocities after learning that his mom wanted him thrown in the psych ward, according to published reports today.

Mom Nancy Lanza was the first person Adam Lanza blew away on Friday before unleashing his killing spree at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., murdering 20 little kids and six educators.

“From what I've been told, Adam was aware of her petitioning the court for conservatorship and plans to have him committed," Joshua Flashman told. 25, FoxNews.com.

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Nancy Lanza occasionally volunteered at Sandy Hook and was friends with the campus’ principal r and psychologist. Both of those women were among the first killed at the school by Lanza.

"Adam Lanza believed she cared more for the children than she did for him, and the reason he probably thought this she was petitioning for conservatorship and wanted to have him committed," Flashman said.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/school_gunman_psychiatric_lanza_hmU0Sl1Skq3MqZTcmEdIMJ

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Reply School gunman Adam Lanza may have snapped over fears mother was going to send him to psychiatric fac (Original post)
FarCenter Dec 2012 OP
jody Dec 2012 #1
a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #2
Cleita Dec 2012 #3
a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #6
Cleita Dec 2012 #12
a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #21
alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #13
a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #22
alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #25
jody Dec 2012 #15
Cleita Dec 2012 #17
jody Dec 2012 #20
alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #18
jody Dec 2012 #23
malaise Dec 2012 #28
SoCalDem Dec 2012 #4
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #35
Fumesucker Dec 2012 #5
GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #7
alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #9
GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #14
alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #16
GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #31
alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #8
devilgrrl Dec 2012 #10
magical thyme Dec 2012 #11
LisaL Dec 2012 #30
Atticus Dec 2012 #19
jody Dec 2012 #24
FarCenter Dec 2012 #33
malaise Dec 2012 #26
GeorgeGist Dec 2012 #27
BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #29
FarCenter Dec 2012 #32
customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #34
ileus Dec 2012 #36

Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:20 PM

1. Unsubstantiated as it is it's still among the more plausible stories so far. nt

 

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:20 PM

2. ...sigh...

 

isn't that a sign he should have been committed?

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:23 PM

3. If she knew the kid was psycho, why didn't she have the presence of mind to remove

her weapons from the premises and lock them up someplace. That's the first thing I would have done if I thought someone close to me could be dangerous. It may not have stopped Adam from offing her, but it would have stopped him from killing anyone else or being able to gun blast himself into that school.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:30 PM

6. still knives in most houses...

 

what about remanding them to the state?

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Response to a geek named Bob (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:36 PM

12. Knives are not high powered rifles.

Maybe he could have stabbed her to death, but I don't think he would have been able to get through the security at the school with kitchen knives or do the damage he did with them.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:54 PM

21. I thought the question at hand was her safety...hence the committment idea.

 

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Response to a geek named Bob (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:39 PM

13. When twenty six-year-old children and six adults are slaughtered in a ten minute span with a knife

We should definitely have that discussion about knives.

Let me know when that happens.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:54 PM

22. the snark around here is incredible...

 

Why the resistance to having Lanza committed?

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Response to a geek named Bob (Reply #22)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:08 PM

25. How you read my post as "resistance to having Lanza committed" is a great mystery for the ages

I'll not bother trying to untangle the twisted route by which you arrived at that conclusion.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:42 PM

15. I understand your post but I ask all to put yourself in her shoes. I don't mean to excuse her but

 

ask that you try to understand the guilt she made have experienced in committing her own child for which she had love and affection to what could be confinement for life,

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Response to jody (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:48 PM

17. Still you get rid of the objects that could be used against someone.

I have done it more than once when I felt a person I had to be close to could be a threat, my cousin for one, whom I took in temporarily when he was in between jobs. I didn't trust his mood swings, so I didn't allow him to bring his gun collection with him. I asked him to store his collection with another family member in a different city, and frankly I hid my chef kitchen knives the ones that could be lethal. Up to that time he hadn't done anything to anyone, but he did eventually shoot and kill someone a few years later and is still in prison for it. It's an instinct someone should have not to mention common sense.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:53 PM

20. I agree with you but we have the luxury of being detached. Some parents in her shoes would not have

 

found the courage to consider committing to an institution.

We don't have to agree but that's my opinion. jody

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Response to jody (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:52 PM

18. You're absolutely right...such decisions are deeply emotionally charged

We shouldn't have to rely on people in the midst of such emotionally charged moments in life to secure weapons of mass murder from their mentally ill loved ones. Or even to responsibly and accurately gauge the danger to the community. Time and again we've seen that this cannot be an individual function, for precisely the reasons you correctly outline here. This must be a social/state function that cuts off access in advance. It's clear, as you imply, that relying on individuals to safeguard the community in such scenarios is a strategy that leads far too often to death and catastrophe.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:54 PM

23. More thanks than you can imagine. nt

 

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Response to jody (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:14 PM

28. If I were worried about my son and htinking about having him committed

the guns would have been removed before that petition reached the court house

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:23 PM

4. FoxNews.com. n/t

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Response to SoCalDem (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:33 PM

35. They can't screw the story up any more than the other media has

Its going to be a long time before there will actually be factual description of some of this

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:24 PM

5. If this is true and the mother still kept the guns in the house

She knew he was brilliant too.

The Beagle has landed.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:33 PM

7. Maybe she was that scared of him?

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Response to GreenPartyVoter (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:35 PM

9. Did she keep a gun hidden in every room

to protect her from her mentally unstable son?

Neat trick, that. And, apparently very effective.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:41 PM

14. I don't know. And I don't agree with it if that's what she was thinking. Just trying

to come up with a plausible reason why she wouldn't ditch the guns if he was that bad.

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Response to GreenPartyVoter (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:46 PM

16. There are plenty of plausible reasons...and they're all bad

People do stupid shit all the time - they plausibly and predictably make deeply stupid decisions.

Usually, we try to make regulations such that people's stupid decisions cause as little harm as possible, but on some issues, the whole culture is so stupid that it cannot bring itself to reduce harm, even in the midst of a public health crisis.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:53 PM

31. All so very true.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:34 PM

8. Responsible Gun Owner (tm) keeps massive arsenal in house with mentally ill, dangerous son

But, but, but, she bought her people-murdering machines legally, and was Responsible!

The stry is, of course, unsubstantiated, and that it comes from the NY Post makes it suspect on its face. But if she was petitioning to have Adam Lanza committed and she kept that arsenal in her home, it's shocking. Point being: such arsenals should not be available in the first place.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:36 PM

11. apparently that's what law enforcement is looking at as motive...

"Fox News quoted a senior law enforcement official, involved in the probe, sayingthat investigators are examining “his future mental health treatment” as a potential motive."

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Response to magical thyme (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:25 PM

30. Potential motive.

The whole story is based on hearsay.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:53 PM

19. "Bloodthirsty child killer " " Mom Nancy Lanza was the first person Adam Lanza blew away "

Boy, that New York Post is some classy newspaper, isn't it?

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Response to Atticus (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:05 PM

24. Atticus, I'm curious, are you from Monroeville, AL. or vicinity? A devotee of Nelle Harper Lee. nt

 

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Response to Atticus (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:20 PM

33. It and the Daily News are tabloids widely read on the subway.

They are looking to appeal to the average New Yorker.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:09 PM

26. And yet she left all those weapons in the house

Wow!

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:10 PM

27. Google Joshua Flashman.

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #27)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:21 PM

29. RWNJ

There's a lot of Republican/wingnuttery floating around this whole story. Mom and Dad were registered Republicans, Adam plastered the walls with military/weaponry posters, the guns...

I do have some sympathy for the mother, though. She was at her wit's end with that boy; no life at all, outside of her little jaunts to the bar.

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #27)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:14 PM

32. Sounds like the type Nancy Lanza would have befriended at a shooting range.

The shooting range and the bar seemed to have been her social venues, although she and Adam were parishoners at St. Rose of Lima.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:06 PM

34. This substantiates my original opinion

that extreme self-centered jealousy motivated Lanza to go to the school to kill the children. At first, I thought she was a teacher there, but even after finding out that this was not the case, I figured that her involvement with the kids at that school provided the fuel for the jealousy of this narcissistic little asshole.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:35 PM

36. If she was that worried she should have secured her firearms better.

She owed that to society long before Friday.

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