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Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:43 PM

Why do people continue to criticize this President?

When no deals have been made with the Republicans up to this point? A lot of ideas have been floated about but nothing has been agreed upon.

Does it do any good to express your thoughts and concerns about possible "deals" that have not yet been made? Would it not be better to just put your faith in President Obama and the Democratic Party and trust that they will do the right thing for all of us? Would not it be better that we stood behind them no matter what they might say in negotiations, because in the long run, they are not going to screw us? Don't we have to believe that?

Or are you of the opinion that you have to keep the heat on them at all times? It is for the best to not trust any politician, not even those of your own Party, when so much is at stake? Is that your reason for disagreeing with President Obama?

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Reply Why do people continue to criticize this President? (Original post)
kentuck Dec 2012 OP
enlightenment Dec 2012 #1
demosincebirth Dec 2012 #2
Zoeisright Dec 2012 #3
Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #4
HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #5
KharmaTrain Dec 2012 #6
hughee99 Dec 2012 #7
jsr Dec 2012 #8
cynatnite Dec 2012 #15
dawg Dec 2012 #24
forestpath Dec 2012 #9
dawg Dec 2012 #10
Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #11
Skip Intro Dec 2012 #12
Bucky Dec 2012 #13
R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #14
Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #16
AllyCat Dec 2012 #17
DJ13 Dec 2012 #18
MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #19
woo me with science Dec 2012 #20
CakeGrrl Dec 2012 #21
Marr Dec 2012 #22
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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:50 PM

1. Democracy does not function in silence, kentuck.

You know that.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:50 PM

2. the old saying; "damn if he does and damn if he does't." On DU, no one is ever happy.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:50 PM

3. There are a lot of whiny people in this country.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:51 PM

4. Reactionaries on the right and left...

 

Getting sick of both of them.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:53 PM

5. Because he asked us to hold his feet to the fire?

Because DU is a collection of "chatroom" where people can talk about those concerns?

Excuse me my dear Kentuck, but in the words of the sage from Oklahoma...

we aren't an organized political party. We are democrats.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:55 PM

6. The "Empowerment" Of The Innertoobs...

Back "in the day", we'd piss and moan to a good friend or maybe write a letter to the editor when something honked us off. Today, you race to the puter and type til your fingers get sore. Any thought or feeling can and is shown out here...including lots and lots of emotion. Thus when something finds its way into the news or even if its just posted here, it's gonna get a lot of response...positive and negative. To me, that's what makes this place fun...watching the sturn and drang as a story develops.

More to your point...there are many who feel they are "owed" for their vote and/or support of the President. We all have our pet issues and thresholds....some hit them faster and more frequently than others.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:55 PM

7. IMHO, we're not required to believe they're not going to screw us.

Especially now, just after an election. We're as far from the next election as we can be, if politicians are going to screw their own constituents, NOW is the time they do it. That's why these sort of issues aren't at the forefront just BEFORE the election.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:56 PM

8. Silence is consent

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Response to jsr (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:02 PM

15. Not. n/t

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Response to cynatnite (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:24 PM

24. Is too. n/t

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:58 PM

9. President Obama has OFFERED to throw seniors to the wolves. That's why.

 

It's irrelevant whether the Republicans have accepted his offer or not.

It tells me everything I need to know about President Obama.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:58 PM

10. If we wait until the deal is done, it's too late to criticize.

Silence is the same as acquiescence as far as I'm concerned. And it is obvious that the chained CPI is being discussed. Now is the time to criticize this horrible idea.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:59 PM

11. An easy way to stop the rumors. Televise the negotiations.

Report every word, smile, wink, handshake.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:00 PM

12. "better to just put your faith in President Obama and the Democratic Party"


No, no blind faith in any politician for me, thanks. That is a scary, scary proposition.

Obama is a politician, not a god.

And talk is cheap, even when spoken with great eloquence.

We didn't come to have the Patriot Act and Dept. of Homeland Security without the Dems.

We didn't come to this place in our history without the Dems help.

Better than the repubs.

But politicians just the same.

None deserving of blind faith.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:00 PM

13. People who complain after the fact have no real power.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:02 PM

14. I agree that no deal has been signed as of yet, and I await to see what will come.

I also awaited to see what would come last time when a deal was struck that ensured that the rich would continue getting gravy they didn't need. Progressives were upset with that outcome while they were told to STFU, and that it was for the good of the middle class.

Let's hope that it doesn't happen again this time in the form of cuts to SS through a chained CPI.

And I get on my knees and pray, we don't get fooled again...

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:03 PM

16. I wish they'd hurry and settle on something... I need something new to watch in the news. nt

 

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:08 PM

17. Because he is offering to "not cut social security" by cutting social security?

He made the offer. Reid confirmed it is on the table. If he moved to there, the only other way to go is even more cuts.

So frustrating how spineless these Dems are. Just go over the cliff already and be done with it.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:13 PM

18. Because he's just a politician

And politicians lie to win your vote, then stab you in the back once they are in power.

Same as it ever was.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:14 PM

19. They wait with bated breath for a chance to jump on Obama. Any excuse will do.

 

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:19 PM

20. This is not just about Social Security and Medicare.



This is not just about Social Security and Medicare
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2020314

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:21 PM

21. There are some who have expected nothing from him but failure since 2008

They're looking for the excuse to be proven right, and bizarrely relying on a biased MSM to confirm their worst fears.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:22 PM

22. Because the second he makes the deal, the same people

who now insist that he never would, will switch to "thank got it passed" and "it was the best anyone could hope for" and "the Republicans MADE him do it".

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:24 PM

23. I'm a cynic.

Place me in paragraph 3.

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