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Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:26 PM

Dick Durbin: No cut in Social Security benefits

Dick Durbin: No cut in Social Security benefits

Posted by Greg Sargent

This may cheer liberals who are worried that the White House is giving too much ground to Republicans by proposing “Chained CPI” for Social Security as part of a final fiscal cliff deal — in effect agreeing to a cut in Social Security benefits.

In an interview with me this morning, Senator Dick Durbin, a top ally of the White House, told me he opposes including Chained CPI in the final deal unless it completely exempts Social Security. He said it would be difficult for Democrats to support Chained CPI for Social Security if it ended up in a final deal, though he said it was premature to say anything definitive about how they would vote.

“We ought to deal with Social Security in a separate conversation that is not part of deficit reduction,” Durbin told me. “To do it at this stage is the wrong way to go.”

Durbin has said this before, but it’s notable that he’s repeating it in the wake of the White House’s reported offer of a deal that includes Chained CPI for Social Security.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2012/12/18/dick-durbin-no-cut-in-social-security-benefits/

White House Rejects Boehner’s Fiscal Cliff ‘Plan B’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022020334

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Reply Dick Durbin: No cut in Social Security benefits (Original post)
ProSense Dec 2012 OP
1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #1
freshwest Dec 2012 #9
Cha Dec 2012 #10
teddy51 Dec 2012 #2
Avalux Dec 2012 #12
Enrique Dec 2012 #3
leftstreet Dec 2012 #4
woo me with science Dec 2012 #7
1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #11
woo me with science Dec 2012 #5
ProSense Dec 2012 #6
ProSense Dec 2012 #8
Liberalynn Dec 2012 #13
forestpath Dec 2012 #14
woo me with science Dec 2012 #15
woo me with science Dec 2012 #16
Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #17

Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:30 PM

1. But .. But ... But ...

President Obama hasn't said he rejects the chained CPI! Why is this coming from Durbin and not President Obama himself? What else is he hiding?

{Yes ... I'm being sarcastic.}

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:45 PM

9. Something more than the secret printing press cranking out birth certificates? OMG!

SSDD. Rumors and he said, she said. I still wish he'd gone to Hawaii for an extended holiday so the media wouldn't be able to create this misery in the minds of millions. Oh, then they'd say he'd bailed and charge him with dereliction of duty. Can win an election, but still can't win, huh?


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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:02 PM

10. Mass Hysteria incites thread Vowing to.. wait for it..

stay home in 2014 to Teach the Cavers A Lesson!

'Cause it worked so well in 2010.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:30 PM

2. Still doesn't totally rule it out, but I guess that's as close as were going to get for

 

a guarantee that SS won't be touched.

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Response to teddy51 (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:29 PM

12. I'd say it is a guarantee, since he's working closely with the WH.

I'll take his word over the media or anyone on of the hysterics here on DU, thank you very much.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:33 PM

3. this is a good sign, imo

Durbin usually gives Obama cover.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:35 PM

4. Wait. Why is Durbin responding to the lying, distorting media?

what?

If the WH didn't actually make these statements, why is Durbin responding as if they did?

Where are the Talking Points people on this?

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:19 PM

7. Indeed.

What a sick, vicious joke this whole performance is. The trial balloons and the propaganda are coming fast and furious.

Now we have Durbin saying that chained CPI is okay as long as SS is exempted from it. Never mind that it affects many other programs and many other groups of vulnerable people.

Fuck the disabled, veterans, and federal retirees. It's all good!

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:27 PM

11. Uhmmm ...

You think Dirbin might ... just might ... be responding to YOU!

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:37 PM

5. So go ahead and fuck federal retirees, veterans, the disabled?

It's fine as long as they can get a headline saying SS was spared?

SS is not the only program that will be affected by a chained CPI.

These people know no shame.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:12 PM

6. "It's fine as long as they can get a headline saying SS was spared?"

Yeah, no raise in Medicare eligibility age and "SS was spared."

So far so good, and a reaching a deal doesn't look promising.


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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:24 PM

8. WH Spokesman Carney: Chained CPI "Something Republicans Wanted"

WH Spokesman Carney: Chained CPI "Something Republicans Wanted"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022021289

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:56 PM

13. 'though he said it was premature to say anything definitive about how they would vote.'

Note the qualifier.

ETA: Emailed the White House, called Pelosi, and Ried, telling them to vote no on any deal that contains chained CPI no matter who proposes it.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:58 PM

14. They will do what their corporate bosses want them to do. Why do they even PRETEND otherwise?

 

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:59 PM

15. Durbin is arguing FOR a chained CPI here, not against it.

He tries to appear as an advocate for the vulnerable by saying that its use should be exempted for Social Security benefits, but he wants to let this scam take hold in our government and affect other vulnerable groups: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022020805#post7

A chained CPI affects many other programs and vulnerable groups apart from Social Security recipients. By advocating its use at all, Durbin is saying,

Fuck the disabled. Fuck veterans. Fuck federal retirees.

What a disgusting charade from self-described "Democrats."

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:02 PM

16. And Durbin is also arguing for a regressive tax hike.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:09 PM

17. It's the difference between Bush Sr's "no new taxes" and thinking he said

"no taxes" So Durbin says no cuts to benefits does not equate to no changes at all.

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