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Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:34 PM

Thomas Jefferson quotes that support the right to bear arms are dubious

Just in case someone posts certain Thomas Jefferson quotes like:

"No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms"

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one."





The Thomas Jefferson Foundation, on its Monticello website, has basically said these quotes are not real in part or full:

http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/no-freeman-shall-be-debarred-use-arms-quotation (this one is sort of valid, being from a draft of the virginia constitution, but by the 2nd and 3rd versions read: "No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms (within his own lands or tenements)" and wasn't included in the final version of the Virginia Constitution.)

http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/strongest-reason-people-tokeep-and-bear-armsquotation

http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/laws-forbid-carrying-armsquotation

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Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:48 PM

1. Freeman in the 18th century isn't what they actually think it means.

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Response to AZ Progressive (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:53 PM

2. Well, this fellow Virginian had something to say and he influenced others at the time:

 



That's from a speech that Patrick Henry delivered on June 9, 1788, and one which Thomas Jefferson was no doubt aware.

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