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Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:32 PM

 

Mandatory RFID chip on all guns

if not installed it is a felony. RFID chips now have a range more than 325 ft. A receiver could be installed in any location and a siren could sound. It would also give law enforcement a heads up to anyone carrying. One manufacturer has already made the move and is the ire of gun extremists. If a few select and trained individuals were allowed to be armed at schools then they would be alerted and would have time to prepare. Even in the old west many towns had laws forbiding weapons while in town. Even with the 2nd ammendment. With the technology we have today and the fact making sure our children are safe it is our duty and obligation at any cost. I myself, personally, after retiring would stand guard at schools if possible. I did it for the Army I can do it at home also. That is what I was trained for. To protect the country and it's citizens. It is a right to own a firearm and that will never be abolished. It only takes one round to kill. One child is too much in my heart. We need to strive for something obtainable and a high level of results across the board.

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Reply Mandatory RFID chip on all guns (Original post)
RegieRocker Dec 2012 OP
srican69 Dec 2012 #1
X_Digger Dec 2012 #2
RegieRocker Dec 2012 #14
X_Digger Dec 2012 #15
RegieRocker Dec 2012 #16
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #17
alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #3
RegieRocker Dec 2012 #4
RegieRocker Dec 2012 #5
srican69 Dec 2012 #7
Control-Z Dec 2012 #9
srican69 Dec 2012 #11
RegieRocker Dec 2012 #6
Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #8
OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #12
RegieRocker Dec 2012 #13
libdem4life Dec 2012 #10

Response to RegieRocker (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:36 PM

1. excellent Idea - but not enforcable

what about the 300 million guns in circulation?

what if the killer yanks out the RFID chip ... the gun will still work

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 05:36 PM

14. Not if you don't know where it's located

 

in the weapon and possibly multiples? Someone mentioned ammunition also.

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Response to RegieRocker (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 05:40 PM

15. Line your holster or sling bag w/ copper.

RFID isn't magic, it's easy to block.

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:20 PM

16. I am sure top minds in the field could find a way

 

To come up with a system that would be very hard to block.
http://www.skyrfid.com/RFID_Weapons_Management.php

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Response to RegieRocker (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 10:02 PM

17. Not technically possible

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Response to srican69 (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:43 PM

3. Obviously, some people are going to break the law

How about the guns now in circulation?

1) We make it mandatory to scan the chip/bar code at shooting ranges. No scan, no service with that gun. Currently owned guns without the scanning/ID can be brought in for scan/ID installation: at the owner's expense, of course. Shooting ranges found to be in violation are subject to fine and shutdown. It will be like the smoking ban in bars: people will gripe and skirt the law for a few months or even years, but most places will implement in short order, especially with strong enforcement task forces the first two years of the statute.

2) You must have the scan/ID installed on the weapon if you are going to sell it. Again, installation is at the owner's expense.

You don't HAVE to get a scan/ID installed - but the expense of the grandfathering is that you 1) cannot use your non-ID'd gun at shooting ranges and 2) cannot sell it. Needless to say, removing an installed ID or violating either of these provisions should be a felony.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:45 PM

4. You get it.

 

Refreshing.

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Response to srican69 (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:47 PM

5. Think about what you just said.

 

If this isn't enforceable then how would any ban on existing guns and hardware be?

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Response to RegieRocker (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:51 PM

7. I think the choke point is ammunition ... ammo is the consumable that can still be controlled ..


you might have a 100 cars - but If I dont get you the fuel - your cars are no good.


So Fuck Gun Control - it should be all about Bullet control


We are looking at the problem the wrong way.

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Response to srican69 (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:58 PM

9. How about

both?

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Response to Control-Z (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 05:08 PM

11. yes ....agreed

plus

1) it will increase cost to user
2) allay fears among public ( which is a good thing)

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Response to srican69 (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:50 PM

6. Embed it in firing pin?

 

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Response to RegieRocker (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:54 PM

8. That would be a serious piece of engineering...

 

Wouldn't affect what's out there but I would be impressed by a piece like that that can both function and act as RFID.

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Response to RegieRocker (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 05:18 PM

12. Firing pins are wearable items.

 

Most firearms have easily replacable firing pins. I could probably make a replacement firing pin for most guns with a dremel and piece of steel in just a few hours. The better component to RFID tag would be the barrel or chamber (if separate frmo the barrel). Each is necessary for firearm function, much more difficult to improvise, and dangerous to mutilate (in removing the RFID).

Unless you have access to nice machines/equipment or have spare parts onhand, it would be difficult to deface/defeat the RFID chip. Most gun guys don't carry spare cyclinders, barrels, or chambers in their spare parts kit.

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Response to OneTenthofOnePercent (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 05:33 PM

13. Great idea

 

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Response to RegieRocker (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 05:01 PM

10. I thought about that too...a great job for a returning vet...around kids and mostly fun, until the

worst happens. Then they know what to do. Station a few around malls, too. Yeah. Full employment for returning vets. And it would only be 5-6 hours a day, which would be good for some.

Zero tolerance.

This is doable...and still provides for sanity around guns which we will always have with us, for those who feel they need them, safe guns for protection of public places.

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