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Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:22 PM

These photos are not funny, & these people could be your neighbors.







Just the average family next door to you, right down the street from you. Some of these photos have the kids also packing assault rifles and pistols.

I wonder how many heavily armed Americans there are altogether? I wonder if my next door neighbor might have a stockpile. And every one of these assholes is frothing at the mouth to kill somebody, and every one of these morons is preparing for war.

Just the average American family, right next door to you.

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Reply These photos are not funny, & these people could be your neighbors. (Original post)
Philosoraptor Dec 2012 OP
TheCowsCameHome Dec 2012 #1
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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:26 PM

1. That's from that asshole gun group in Arizona, isn't it?

They look sickeningly familiar.....

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:15 PM

28. Editing note: "Asshole gun group" is a redundancy.

Last edited Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:29 PM - Edit history (1)

Mention of the latter inexorably implies -- and confirms -- the former.

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Response to villager (Reply #28)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 10:18 PM

80. Especially when they are located in Arizona!



I do NOT mean to disparage the good Democrats of the state, even the gun owning Democrats.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #80)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:48 PM

112. +1 nt

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Response to csziggy (Reply #80)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:34 AM

127. Yeah that does make it a triple.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:30 PM

2. The third is particularly disturbing with that little boy in front...

They're scum...knr

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:32 PM

5. Oh yeah, a future, deeply disturbed teen in the making.

Maybe that little boy will have mental problems, and growing up in a house full of loaded weapons certainly won't help.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:05 PM

106. Or as a friend says to me about some children in those situations, that they

are building a little psychopath from the bottom up.

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:23 PM

33. Plus, he's wearing his hat like a rapper!!!



These people are scary.

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:33 PM

38. You mean the kid who's getting ready to blow his foot off?

I own guns, but I swear to God, those idiots make me want to puke.

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:52 PM

41. The third one is from Western Colorado. (nt)

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 10:25 PM

81. It looks that little kid is holding a real handgun. Look at how he's holding it. It's heavy.

Irresponsible assholes.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:30 PM

3. Absolutely vile.

Those photos show exactly why these horrors happen here -- because we invite them. Every gun-owner in Ameica is fuckig gguilty. Yeah I said it. I am SICK TO THE TITS of you and your fucking rights to kill. I'm SICK of the culture of violence, the joy of killing, the party of murder and mayhem. Go on, celebrate your proud 2nd amendment rights and bury your 6-year-olds, you scum.

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Response to rivegauche (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:16 PM

101. because we invite them

EXACTLY!!!!!!

The legend of the vampire, who may not enter a house unless invited, illustrates a deep truth.

Everything depends on what we as human beings do.
Do we choose to change? Do we choose to backbite and submerge ourselves in petty trivialities?

Do we determine (and re-determine, and re-determine again) to do better in any given moment, in our individual arena?

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Response to rivegauche (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:14 PM

107. Every gun owner in America is guilty?

Obviously you're so upset you can't even type, but really, EVERY gun owner?

That is without a doubt the most asinine thing I've seen on DU. Ever.

Bake

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Response to Bake (Reply #107)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:06 PM

116. Can't imagine why she might be just a little bit upset, Bake.

I'm about out of patience with you Responsible Gun Owners® too. I'd stick to getting wasted and playing guitar if I were you, Bake.

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Response to Chorophyll (Reply #116)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:17 PM

117. Getting wasted? Not lately. Not in a long while.

Sure, I understand people being upset. I'm upset about the massacre. I've said elsewhere in GD, several times, that I would support an assault weapons ban.

But the post to which I responded? Asinine, and obviously has no place in rational discussion. All gun owners are guilty? Of what? Breaking the law? Nope. Killing schoolchildren? Nope. So I repeat, this is the most asinine comment I've ever seen on DU, and it has no place in any rational discussion of gun control.

Banning all guns is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS COUNTRY. NEVER. There's a lot of knee-jerk crap being spouted here since the tragedy. But a total ban (some go so far as to call for confiscation of all guns) is just never going to happen. I'd vote against it, and a lot of other Dems would too. So let's talk about RATIONAL common-sense gun control, like an assault weapons ban.

And I'm sorry for your dearth of patience. That's your problem. I responded to your post in a rational way, without resorting to ad hominem b.s. or slurs like your "getting wasted" comment, which frankly I don't appreciate.

Bake

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:31 PM

4. They probably are my neighbors

This is a rough area and I imagine most of them have guns.

You'd have to change the skin color, though. Most of my neighbors are brown, with a sprinkling of the rest of the human rainbow.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:33 PM

7. I know a few dozen of these types.

I'm in the Kansas City area.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:33 PM

6. I got them all around me. I bet every gun shop in America

will sell out of Bushmasters by the end of this week. People were standing in line for them at Cabela's in Wheeling this weekend.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:33 PM

8. Cuz Merkins Lurv Thur Guns

Lurv Lurv Lurv um

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:39 PM

9. It makes you wonder

What kind of moron would give that little blonde kid a loaded gun, unless they want the kid to shoot himself "accidentally."

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:41 PM

10. Shooting range here is sponsoring photos of family, guns, and Santa Claus.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:48 PM

15. they very much want their psychosis to be seen as normal

time to let them know exactly how wrong they are

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:44 PM

11. Cool. I wonder how much help they'll be to their owners when

the next shooter decides to bust in and open fire at the next mall, or darkened theater, or beauty shop, or school? Do they carry these things along and have them at the ready?


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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:44 PM

12. Long time no see. Philo-rapt.

Hey there

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Response to annabanana (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:04 PM

21. hey there back atcha anna

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:45 PM

13. Let me tell you a story. A couple weeks ago, my neighbor rang my doorbell. He asked if I'd seen


anyone suspicious around and that someone had knocked on his door but he didn't see anyone there when he came to the door. Told me about how he had his gun on him in case anything bad was going on.

I told him maybe it was trick-or-treaters.

It was halloween, after all.

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Response to Erose999 (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:03 PM

47. Oh. My. Gawd. So paranoid they don't even recognize Trick or Treaters!

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:47 PM

14. Do these people have any idea how they appear

to the rest of the sane world? Death-porn loving, gun-humping sociopaths.

ETA: Just look at that grinning asshole in the second photo--hugging his first love, an AK-whatever, closer than his son. The kid is obviously a secondary interest. You can see his hierarchy of priorities.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:48 PM

17. no, and it is up to us to let them know

they have long tried to normalize and mainstream their fear and ignorance but thinking Americans are fed up with them

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 05:22 PM

19. They're proud of their de-evolution into animals

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Response to Philosoraptor (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 05:39 PM

20. +1,000!

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Response to Philosoraptor (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 10:05 PM

77. animals are so beautiful, predators only kill for food

these things are something else all together....

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:10 PM

26. No.

In fact, they actually think the opposite.

"Boy, I bet my neighbors think of me as the ultimate macho man who'll save their life one day with my high powered rifle and I'll be a hero. That hot chick at work is probably fantasizing about me because I keep bragging to everyone around how many guns I have."

Or some version of that.

As someone who is a psychologist just told me, stop trying to apply rational thought to irrational people.

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Response to llmart (Reply #26)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:17 PM

30. Yep, you can't reason with unreason! You can only stay as far away from it as possible...

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #30)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:34 PM

39. Yep.

I've made it a point to keep the crazies out of my life. I don't have enough years left on this earth to waste any time on them.

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Response to llmart (Reply #26)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:18 AM

123. You might want to reconsider either your opinion of gun owners or your avatar...

Or both:







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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #123)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:50 AM

128. No, I don't think so on either of your suggestions.......

Another ridiculous gun nut comparison. One photo from a different era has nothing to do with what we live with now.

Maybe you can Google Annie Oakley and post that one too, huh? That would sure change some minds - NOT.

And now, I'll once again use the Ignore feature.

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Response to llmart (Reply #128)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:45 AM

137. Annie Oakley...

was not a first lady of the united states of america either. When campaigning for civil rights in tennessee, Mrs. Roosevelt kept a handgun in her glove box for protection from those who wanted to stop her.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:25 PM

34. And his wife is cradling her gun exactly as you'd hold an infant. Ugh! eom

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Response to truth2power (Reply #34)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:33 PM

37. Yeah, noticed that too. Like she was rocking it to sleepy-bye...sick freaks!

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:02 PM

46. I see little if any difference between those photos and this famous one.




Just a matter of degree, same statement is being made.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #46)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:27 PM

59. Ooooh...Come to sexy

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #59)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:06 PM

69. Looks like my Uncle Joe, wearing a habit.

Joe wasn't near as mean, though, he was a good egg.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #46)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 10:03 PM

76. yes agree 100% they are the same people

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #46)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:04 AM

91. Only differences? More modest wardrobe taste, better hairdresser and photographer...

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #46)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:12 PM

109. I didn't know this one was famous

But don't you just love how these gun morans think that they even have to show off the boxes of bullets?

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:48 PM

16. I dunno, the look on Santa's face is pretty damn funny.

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Response to renie408 (Reply #16)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:51 PM

18. you're actually able to discern a "look" on santa's face in that photo...?

 

or did you just forget the sarcasm tag?

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #18)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:09 PM

24. It's in the eyes, they are the windows to the soul n/t

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #24)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:44 AM

89. you're seeing what you want to see...not what's actually there.

 

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #18)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 07:51 PM

44. No, the other poster is right. His eyes are just a little bugged out...

he kind of looks like he is silently screaming, "HELP ME".

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Response to renie408 (Reply #44)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:46 AM

90. you're just seeing what you want to see...

 

how can you tell his "eyes are a little bugged out"..? one eye is totally blocked by his hat, and the other is partially covered. and he's wearing glasses.

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #90)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:00 AM

95. Boy, I bet you are loads of fun at a party.

I see what I saw. I had no idea that it would bother you so much you would feel that it needed pursuing. Not that I give a rat's ass.

Are you also chastising the other poster who thinks he looks a little freaked?

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Response to renie408 (Reply #16)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:17 PM

53. He looks like he's telling myself over and over, "It's just a gig. It's just a gig.

They won't shoot me instead of paying me, will they? It's just a gig."

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:08 PM

23. Neighbors?

Try family..

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:10 PM

25. In my case that is more true than for many others.

Which really sucks butt.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:13 PM

27. What, no happy family photo of the man who took his son to a gun show

and let him fire a machine gun, which immediately shot him dead as the father watched?

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:16 PM

29. Piece on Earth -- Merry Christmas from the Gunfuckers

n/t

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:20 PM

31. After learning about the craziness of some gun owners

Especially their hatred and paranoia (such as doomsday preppers), I am scared to death of my neighbors. Some are decent gun owners and hunters, but there are some who have "hate Obama" signs and confederate flags. All my home doors will be locked from now on.

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Response to mrsadm (Reply #31)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:41 AM

119. I know how you feel.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:22 PM

32. Freaks.

They worship their cold metal phalluses more than anything else.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:25 PM

35. They should move to a country like Somila where they would get an opportunity to really use their

guns.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #35)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:36 PM

40. +1,000! Move someplace where they could get in some serious, up-close trigger time!

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #35)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:01 PM

45. I wonder how many of the fathers in these photos

really served in the military?

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #35)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:07 PM

48. Poor Somalia has enough problems. Let them go to their very own private island.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #35)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:48 PM

111. Every time someone asks them about why they don't want to move there,

the answer is always "because I don't want to get randomly shot". Go figure.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:28 PM

36. Disgusting!

Proud to be American

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:55 PM

42. It really is a fetish for them. An object they imbue with special power and personal meaning.

I honestly cannot fathom that mindset at all. To choose an instrument of death as one's most cherished talisman, as the outward manifestation of one's inner spirit. It's incomprehensible to me.

sw

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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #42)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:04 AM

124. Well put.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 07:32 PM

43. Alamogordo had its armed teaparty protest Jan 2010

On youtube: Armed Protest in New Mexcio (shows dogs with guns in holsters (who knows if they were loaded?))



Alamogordo Tea Party Protest, January 2, 2010
(I"m at the very end of this one with a sign supporting our President and healthcare for all)

More Tea Party Protest, Alamogordo, January 2, 2010.mov



You're so right...these armed gun nuts ARE my neighbors. Sad, scared folks.


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Response to duhneece (Reply #43)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:12 PM

50. That dog was not happy. His tail was not wagging. It was between his legs. I hate seeing that.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:08 PM

49. Everyone is old enough to know not to put their finger on the trigger..except little dude

and *THIS* is why so many kids are killed with their parents weapons

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:16 PM

51. Bunch of degenerates. nt

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:17 PM

52. If there were a reason to wage war with Iran, it would be to draft these people

into combat. See how long they last.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:20 PM

54. plea for help

 

These people will be the first one you come to begging for help when something bad goes down. Whether it be a crazy person shooting up your town, a military take over of your area or when someone is robbing you. You want to call these people morons but when the shit hits the fan, you will be begging them for help.

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Response to commonsensevoter (Reply #54)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:26 PM

56. military takeover?

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #56)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:27 PM

60. ...While visions of Red Dawn dance in his head... nt

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #60)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:11 AM

92. Totally. That's it, right there.

"WOLVERIIIIINEEES!!!!"

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #92)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:34 PM

113. They're actually remaking that one

I saw a preview for it.

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Response to commonsensevoter (Reply #54)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:26 PM

57. It is more likely that these nuts will be the cause of the problem,

Or will be shot dead.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #57)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:26 AM

96. Experience, history & statistics say "you're right"

But the gun nuts will continue to delude themselves.

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Response to commonsensevoter (Reply #54)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:28 PM

61. Enjoy your stay.

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Response to Sedona (Reply #61)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:51 PM

66. TS'ed after 3 posts! nt

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Response to commonsensevoter (Reply #54)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:30 PM

62. So, did the military takeover happen before or after you were abducted by aliens? n/t

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Response to gkhouston (Reply #62)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:47 AM

120. You mad me LOL!

Thanks, I needed that.

What a horrible vision this OP is showing us...

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Response to commonsensevoter (Reply #54)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:44 PM

63. If theres a crazy person shooting up my town,

People like these will be that crazy person.

Military takeover? These people will shoot me if I look hungry.

Robbery? Shit. Take my dumb stuff.Have it all! My crap isnt worth anyones' life.

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Response to commonsensevoter (Reply #54)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:46 PM

64. Yeah, because your stupid little guns will surely stop a military takeover involving drones.

Go back to your cave. If shit hits the fan and these are the only people that survive I'd rather be dead. Neanderthals.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:21 PM

55. Help...I'm blinded by the white

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:27 PM

58. Walking talking self-fulfilling prophecies every last one of them & when that day comes in which

they prove themselves right, the will swear every step of the way was someone else's fault.

And, you know, I could live with all of that if it weren't for the fact that they VIOLATE MY RIGHTS AS A FREE PERSON TO CHOOSE MY OWN COURSE and the reason they are oppressors is because the nature of guns is unavoidably such that the consequences of their actions will not affect just them alone, but they don't care whose rights to self-determination and life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness they violate as long as they can have any gun they want.

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Response to patrice (Reply #58)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:49 AM

121. +1,000 to what you said.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:46 PM

65. They don't scare me one bit. nt

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:53 PM

67. Repulsive. And these people are not my neighbors. I live in a large Northeastern liberal city.

We aren't gun worshippers and I am glad of it. I cannot understand the worship of guns. I cannot even stand the sight of one. Am I the only person that thinks that guns are just a sick fetish?

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #67)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:32 PM

108. There are millions of us. And we all need to be putting the pressure on lawmakers to DO SOMETHING!

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:54 PM

68. Could be? These people are our neighbors.

Don't you get pictures like this tucked into Christmas cards?

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:16 PM

70. Do these idiots not realized how stupid they look?

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:31 PM

71. Oh, aren't they tough.



The people in those pics aren't funny. They look ridiculous.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:44 PM

73. Oh but you're wrong. It's not that they could be - they ARE

I have neighbors like that. Scary as hell.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:45 PM

74. My Republican neighbors look like them

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:52 PM

75. The photos weren't intended to be "funny"

And this is one type of average American family.

I live in a rural area where lots of people have guns. I don't have a gun--and even if I did, I could never bring myself to shoot an animal. I couldn't even stand to go fishing. But other people hunt, and hunting keeps wild animal populations in check so that animals don't die a slow death of starvation.

But these are kind people who have helped me clear snow out of the driveway when there was too much for my little snowthrower to handle. They're the people who let us take cover in their basements during tornado warnings, because our house has no basement. They're the people who have mowed my lawn for free, when I got hurt and couldn't do it myself. These people are so much kinder than the people I used to live around in the city--people who freaked out over guns, but would let you die on the street rather than do anything to help.

(And yes, that very nearly happened to my uncle. He collapsed near his car, and people just walked right over him. He managed to crawl into his car and park it sideways on the road, to force somebody to call the police--who called an ambulance, and saved his life.)

But in the small town where I live, and where guns are just another tool, there's virtually no crime. And people help each other.

My friends and neighbors who own guns are not "frothing at the mouth to kill somebody". They're just hunters and/or collectors of guns. They're not even survivalists--they're barely prepared for tornadoes, let alone any apocalyptic breakdown of society, LOL.

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Response to lbrtbell (Reply #75)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:46 PM

131. Finally.

It's nice to see someone who isn't spewing hatred.

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Response to Styles828 (Reply #131)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:08 PM

132. So people think this picture is not funny and silly that means we are "spewing hatred"

Sorry these pictures look ridiculous.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #132)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 10:00 PM

134. Yes

I think they're silly too. That is not what most of the comments say, sadly.

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Response to Styles828 (Reply #134)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 10:06 PM

135. Look gun owners are welcome here. We have many gun owners here.

The majority of people here are for gun control. A vocal minority are against it. You are welcome to challenge any post you want to my friend. There will be heated discussion because of last weeks tragedy.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 10:07 PM

78. There are people right here on DU that saw nothing wrong with those, and worse gun stuff.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #78)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:40 PM

82. OK, what's wrong with the pictures?

Don't just assume I should viscerally feel them as "wrong" like you do. Articulate what's so offensive about them.

On edit: the one with the kid holding the gun wrong is troubling, yes.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #82)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:47 PM

83. You wouldn't understand. Enjoy your guns.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #83)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:48 PM

85. I don't have any guns

Seriously, I want to know why you think you know so much about these people based on what they're holding in a portrait.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #85)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:00 AM

100. I know that they are flashing guns around their children

and that one boy is even holding a gun - incorrectly. Hope he doesn't blow his leg off.

Common sense people....buy some if need be.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #82)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:04 AM

129. Going to explain once

why the family pic with child holding gun is wrong, so pay attention. That child is no more than 3 years old, you never ever ever in life put a real gun in a baby's hands. And if you do, or you think it is just okey dokey - what's the prob, Bro? then you have as big of a problem mentally as that family. Your choice - which is it?

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby

BabyFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search
A baby Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Babies

A baby is a very young human who is usually born after coming out of a woman. A child is a month old, a baby until he or she is about three years old, and a preschooler between 3 years old and school.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 10:08 PM

79. Err... they're not meant to be funny

This is an actual part of America, and they're probably very nice people.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #79)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:48 PM

84. Maybe , sans guns.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #84)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:49 PM

86. Guns turn good people into bad people?

That seems like an odd thing to think.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:56 PM

87. Damn, but DU got super judgemental lately.

Any of those folks do something wrong that you all are collectively mocking them?

I mean bad pics aside.

But what I really love is this quote, "And every one of these assholes is frothing at the mouth to kill somebody, and every one of these morons is preparing for war."

Is that so?

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Response to flvegan (Reply #87)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:36 AM

94. Apparently you've never met any of these folks

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:28 AM

88. Show us you Guns! - SNL 1975

This is a clip from what I think was the very first SNL episode in 1975.

People who are old enough to remember might recognize that the parody was based on a cigarette commercial from a few years before that (Show us your Lark pack). In 1975, this was satire, today you wouldn't need actors.

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/75/75aguns.phtml



Pretty sure that I spotted Al Frankens former comedy partner, the late Tom Davis, on the truck.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:12 AM

93. Santa looks like he's being held hostage.

"Call The Poliiiiice"

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:32 AM

97. The Santa photo is definitely funny

 

The other two aren't because they are boring and also because arming a child is pretty creepy.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:44 AM

98. What a bunch of pathetic losers.

I mean really really weak and pathetic.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:54 AM

99. I don't freak out over things like this.

 

If they are felons and can't own guns arrest them.

Top pic has a minigun , the person probably owns the company and sells to our government
or it is only one of 3 privately held ones in the country.

Bottom pic has people out having fun shooting in the desert , so what..

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:23 PM

102. These people ARE my neighbors!

Well, not quite, but there is a family who lives right next door that has pictures very similar to these in their living room. They may as well be my neighbors. The slogan on my actual neighbor's picture (that shows him posing with 2 AK-47s pointing diagonally outward and upward from his hips) is "guns for Jesus". The only explanation I can come up with as to why these people are the way they are is the same one I come up with regarding fundamentalist extremists of all religions/ideologies: they have been brainwashed since birth.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:53 PM

103. Cringeworthy

Yikes.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:58 PM

104. Creepy people.



Makes me want to emigrate ...

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:04 PM

105. Those people or people like them are my neighbors. They are also

problem neighbors with untrained dogs roaming around and large, loud trucks that they make sure you know are coming down the road with their loud music. Strange that they are all white people in your pictures. It's the same in my neighborhood. Although I know a tendency towards violence comes in all ethnicities. I know they have arsenals in their homes. I don't fear they will come and shoot me as they don't survive by criminal activity, but I am waiting for the day that they will kill each other and it will happen. There have already been incidents of violence on their property, particularly a son who hits his mother and then there is a fight between all the members of this extended family. The sheriffs are aware of the domestic violence but can't do anything but sit and wait for a tragedy to happen. The families live in two homes on the property.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:17 PM

110. Now, THIS is true pornography...

Dark and twisted, phallus worshipping... a sick mix of domesticity with tools of murder, etc.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:57 PM

114. What a bunch of trash.

pure trash

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:03 PM

115. Nauseating.

Tell me again that we don't have a sick Cult of the Gun in this country.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:26 PM

118. It's A Cult

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:53 AM

122. 89/100 have guns

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:06 AM

125. It's that kind of fear

That started the gun-nuts hysteria in the first place. Let's not meet them on their level.

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 07:19 AM

126. Well, if they are your neighbors

and thieves come in the middle of the night to break into homes, maybe you'll be lucky and their homes will be broken into before yours.

Naw, the thieves will see the NRA stickers on their pickup trucks and windows, and decide to go for your house with the tofu containers in the trash...

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:16 AM

130. My favorite line from the old TV show "ER".........

was "Stupid people shouldn't be allowed to breed."

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:57 PM

133. Please read in entirety.

I think the level of hatred and demonization here is chilling.

There are fringe-groups, in every bastion of society imaginable. The gross majority of gun owners are not in this fringe group. The majority of gun owners are responsible, level headed, law abiding citizens enjoying a legitimate sport. They are no more dangerous than the his hypothetical neighbour growing roses, or the college student renting the house across the street.

If the comments I am seeing here tonight were directed at any identifiable group but the easily vilified gun owners, it would be considered hate speech. This is appalling to see in an otherwise inclusive and modern society. Never in all my debates about all subjects under the sun have I seen this level of ignorance, hatred and absolutely corrosive language. Fifty-five Million American Citizens have just been dubbed 'assholes, frothing at the mouth with bloodlust' to paraphrase.

Ladies, Gentlemen, those with non-binary sexual identities, we as gun owners are not the boogeyman. We are not as portrayed by the media. We are not the ghoulish, lifestealing abominations the commenters in this thread believe us to be.

The first picture features an M134 Dillon Minigun. It is illegal for citizens to own. It is either a prop, or is owned by a weapons manufacturer doing Holiday Pictures. The woman is holding a Kalishnikov Variant. Civilian legal and well suited to hunting (a shock, I know). The man is holding an AR15 (Armalite Rifle model 15) Variant with what is supposed to look like the M203 grenade launcher. It in all likelihood is the more common 37mm flare launcher, attached to the rifle because the owner thinks it looks 'neat'. The AR15 is also an excellent hunting rifle. It is black and plastic because black plastic is light, durable and requires no oiling. The Machinegun appears to be an M60 GPMG. This one I may be mistaken on. It requires a Class III License to possess. They are yet to be used in a crime.

The second photo features two generic AR15 variants. As mentioned above, both suitable hunting rifles.

The third looks like a family shooting trip. One where the little tike is facing his first introduction to firearms, shooting, and all the safety with it. The comment that it is dangerous because the firearm is loaded is preposterous. It is beyond unlikely that a loaded (appears to be a glock, or perhaps another striker-fired pistol) handgun to a child. All the guns in this picture are hunting rifles or handguns. Nothing spicy in there, save for the attractive young woman in red. They all had a fun day and no-one shot up a pharmacy.

We, as firearms owners, are not frothing at the mouth. We do not long to kill. We do not get drunk and beat our wives. We are not religious lunatics waiting for doomsday. We are your doctors. Your soldiers. Your teachers, Lawyers, police officers, cabdrivers, construction workers, businessmen, fathers, mothers and tax bastards.

I, as a gun owner, hope I never am in a situation where I may have to take a life. The taking of life is something, even under entirely lawful and morally justified circumstances, that will change a person and stick with them forever. The very wise Dave Grossman is a man I would consider the world expert on human aggression, violence and the effects of those on society. I recommend his books highly. He writes on these subjects and it would be a great service for everyone, nomatter what their views, to read them.

Hunting both for sustenance and management is a good thing. No one is more concerned with and involved with the management and success of wild animals than the hunter. We fund it, we participate in it. We gain from it, as it in turn does from us. It is historically valid. It is currently relevant.

The continuing transubstantiation of guns for 'phalluses' is gratingly ignorant. I cannot kill a 3/4 tonne moose with my penis. I can with my hunting rifle. It will then go in to my freezer and provide me with freerange, organic meat for many months. I do not wish for a bigger penis. I don't own guns out of penis envy, spite or compensation. I own them for the same reason as I own any of my other tools. They fulfill a specific function. I cannot begin to imagine how the phallus argument would apply to the large and growing percentage of female shooters, including my wife. I don't care to imagine her filling a penis-insecurity with a firearm.

Stop the hatred. 1000 years ago it was the jews. 100 years ago it was blacks. 50 years ago it was gays and women. Now it is gunowners - be them hunters, sport shooters or collectors.

I would like to condemn in the strongest possible terms those who abuse firearms. People who commit acts of unprovoked violence are evil. I wish all these acts could be prevented, I really do. Mental health is in my opinion a bigger issue than is that of guns. Maybe this will be addressed by Obamacare. Maybe it will be addressed by the horrific tragedy in Newtown. I know when I heard about that terrifying act, I hugged my daughter tightly, and shed more than one tear for the victims and families of such unthinkable violence and mental illness.

If nothing else, take away from all I have written this: We are just like you. we have kids. We have wives. We have cars and jobs and houses. We care and vote and read and eat just like everyone else. Stop making us out to be monsters. Monsters we are not, no more than the Jews, Gays, Blacks and women hated before us. Attitudes like this are the reason there is violence in the world. The gun, knife, fist, bomb, and anything else that has ever been used to hurt someone was used in anger. In hatred. Because one party detested, hated or wouldn't accept another. Accept one-another. Even people who's skin is different. People who worship a different god, or none at all. People who are richer or poorer, more or less intelligent. People from all walks of life. People who are gay, straight or transgendered or curious. People who hunt. People who are shameful enough to speak with hatred.

Violence and murder need not be. They are both facilitated by the attitudes I see here. Love and care for, and watch it dissappear. Accept me as I have accepted all of you. Together, stand against violence. Against thuggery. Against corrupt and self serving politicians thriving on tragedy. Unite against the glorification of violence and death by the media. Unite for the simple reason on not being divided.

Love. Be loved. Care for and be cared for. Do not focus on the gun. Focus on people. People are the makers and doers of everything in this world.

-Dan

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Response to Philosoraptor (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:17 AM

136. That kid in the center on the bottom picture

seriously needs to be taken from his parents. Handing a kid that young (What the fuck is he? Three or four?) a gun, loaded or not, is neglect.

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