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Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:07 PM

"a greater danger of swimming accidents" Quote from gun lobby HQed in Newtown.

Wonder what this guy is thinking right now?

That quote is from a meeting held in Newtown, CT in August. There had been complaints of loud gunshots near residences.

But in the last couple of years, residents began noticing loud, repeated gunfire, and even explosions, coming from new places. Near a trailer park. By a boat launch. Next to well-appointed houses. At 2:20 p.m. on one Wednesday last spring, multiple shots were reported in a wooded area on Cold Spring Road near South Main Street, right across the road from an elementary school.

Yet recent efforts by the police chief and other town leaders to gain some control over the shooting and the weaponry turned into a tumultuous civic fight, with traditional hunters and discreet gun owners opposed by assault weapon enthusiasts, and a modest tolerance for bearing arms competing with the staunch views of a gun industry trade association, the National Shooting Sports Foundation, which has made Newtown its home.

....“We’re growing,” Ms. Jacob said in an interview on Saturday, describing a town where hikers and mountain bikers now compete with gun owners for use of the many trails and wooded areas. “The police chief is not looking to change behavior or go after a group of people, but rather he’s trying to give his officers the ability, if an incident occurs, to react appropriately. Right now, if you’re standing on your property and my house is 20 feet away, you can shoot.”

The first meeting took place on Aug. 2, with about 60 people crowding into the room. Some spoke in favor of the new rules, the meeting minutes show. But many voiced their opposition, citing the waiting lists at established gun ranges. Among the speakers was a representative of the National Shooting Sports Foundation, who was described as saying he believed there was a greater danger of swimming accidents. “No privileges should be taken away from another generation,” he said.

In Town at Ease With Its Firearms, Tightening Gun Rules Was Resisted


That gun lobby is located across the highway from Sandy Hook School.

From The New Republic:

The Second Most Powerful Gun Lobby Is in Newtown, Connecticut

Just across the highway from Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, in a stately white building with an American flag flying out front, is the headquarters of the United States’ premiere industry association for gun retailers.

It’s not the consumer-focused National Rifle Association. The National Shooting Sports Foundation has kept a lower profile over the years, but is likely the second-most-powerful force for firearms use in the country.

Take its lobbying activities. While the gun lobby in general has spent less in 2012 than it has in recent years, the NSSF’s spending has exploded, spiking from about $100,000 in 2008 to $500,000 so far this year (in comparison to the NRA’s $2.2 million). The lion’s share of that went to Patrick Rothwell, the group’s director of government relations, who served for three years as chief of staff to the House Republican Policy Committee. He spent a lot of time this year working on legislation that would prevent the Environmental Protection Agency from regulating chemicals in gun ammunition and fishing equipment, and the organization has backed a slew of concealed-carry bills.

The NSSF was also active this election cycle, rallying members under the hashtag #gunvote, though its campaign contributions only came to about $26,000. Its general counsel, Larry Keane, is widely quoted in the media making the case for gun ownership.

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msongs Dec 2012 #2
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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:18 PM

1. Dumb fucks, don't know the difference between accidents and pre-meditatated murder.

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Response to demosincebirth (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:00 PM

5. It was a weird statement.

Even comparing the two is ridiculous.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:20 PM

2. every gun incident has a cause, there are no such things as "accidents" nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:47 PM

4. They have framed the message so long they don't understand otherwise.

Accident, causes blend into one for them.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:21 PM

3. About the exploding targets: “If you’re good old boys like we are, they are exciting"

More from the New York Times link in the OP:

"On High Rock Road, where many gunfire complaints originated, what appeared to be three or more gun ranges were set back from the road.

The owner of one, Scott Ostrosky, said he and his friends had been shooting automatic weapons since he bought the 23-acre property more than 12 years ago. It is safe, he said, because his land is sandwiched between two other gun ranges, the 123-acre Pequot hunting club and the 500-acre Fairfield club.

The explosions his neighbors hear are targets that are legally available at hunting outlets. “If you’re good old boys like we are, they are exciting,” he said. He said he was distraught at the school massacre but said guns should not be made the “scapegoat.”

“Guns are why we’re free in this country, and people lose sight of that when tragedies like this happen,” he said. “A gun didn’t kill all those children, a disturbed man killed all those children.”

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