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Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:49 PM

Yes, today IS the day to talk about gun control, you know what today is NOT the day for?

Gun apologists to crawl out of the woodwork to defend their fetish in internet forums. What are they so afraid of, we don't control policy/legislation. If anyone wants to spend their time during this tragedy & National mourning defending gun culture, feel free to write to your fucking Senators and express your concern. Here we vent by imagining a world not filled with violence. A world where we strive for good. One where where we give a shit more about healthcare & well-being of our citizens instead of corporate profits. We look for solutions and exchange ideas.

PS: And for fucks sake these were legally purchased guns which as far as we know weren't even locked up! Is it too much to ask these gun freaks to at least start locking up these goddamn weapons somewhere safe?! I'm all FOR free speech, I've been bloodied defending it in my life, but I'm also FOR knowing when to shut the fuck up.












Sorry about the rant, but the more these details keep rolling in the more horrified I become. This will psychologically damage our Nation. As a parent of a Pre-K child myself, this is a nightmare scenario that will live with me everyday I send my child to school for the next 18+ years. Every. Single. Day. And all I/We ask is that we take steps to ensuring these scenarios can be minimized or even neutralized.

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Reply Yes, today IS the day to talk about gun control, you know what today is NOT the day for? (Original post)
JaneyVee Dec 2012 OP
union_maid Dec 2012 #1
Indydem Dec 2012 #2
NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #3
Indydem Dec 2012 #5
NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #9
Bradical79 Dec 2012 #20
AndyA Dec 2012 #6
_ed_ Dec 2012 #7
Squinch Dec 2012 #19
jeff47 Dec 2012 #11
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #12
apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #22
TheCowsCameHome Dec 2012 #4
liberalmuse Dec 2012 #8
Squinch Dec 2012 #15
Squinch Dec 2012 #10
Logical Dec 2012 #13
jeff47 Dec 2012 #14
Logical Dec 2012 #18
jeff47 Dec 2012 #21
Squinch Dec 2012 #16
ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #17

Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:53 PM

1. You're making sense to me n/t

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:53 PM

2. Believeing in gun rights does not make you a gun fetishist.

The use of that term is immature and does not belong in a serious discussion about firearms.

Before MorningFog, the biggest troll on DU finds this post and points it out, I admit to being a proud member of the National Rifle Association, the largest gun training and safety organization in America.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:55 PM

3. And you wrote that last phrase with a straight face? Really?

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:57 PM

5. Which part seems to be offensive to you?

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Response to Indydem (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:59 PM

9. If you have to ask....sorry, I can't do this.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:28 PM

20. Probably your portrayal of the NRA

as simply a gun safety and training organization.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:58 PM

6. I'm sure the Republican Party appreciates your support

Because that's where most of the NRA money goes. Very few Democrats see any of it. Kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face, isn't it? (Unless gun rights are more important to you than all else.)

What's immature is the failure of gun rights supporters to accept the fact that there are other rights besides the second amendment. Like the right to live your life. In instances like this, the rights of some are being infringed upon by others.

Without life, there is nothing, so I think the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness trumps the right to bear arms. If you're dead, you don't need any rights.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:59 PM

7. It takes a special kind of selfishness to praise the NRA today

You are a useful idiot for the NRA and the gun / ammo corporations that they represent and the Republican politics they fund. Congratulations on being part of the problem.

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Response to _ed_ (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:12 PM

19. +1

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Response to Indydem (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:02 PM

11. Believing gun rights supersede all other rights does make you a gun fetishist.

I admit to being a proud member of the National Rifle Association, the largest gun training and safety organization in America.

Strange you're so proud to belong to an organization that just failed so spectacularly.

It's also quite odd how that same organization works so hard against laws regarding firearms training and safety. Almost like that line is marketing bullshit designed to separate fools from their money.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:02 PM

12. That also pushes for loosening of gun laws and stand your ground laws

With their pals at ALEC, and would like everybody to be well armed. They are not your parent's NRA.

Now those used to advocate for open spaces and gun safety.

You go on defending these guys...and you are an extremist.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:39 PM

22. GO. AWAY. n/t.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:55 PM

4. Yesterday, and the day before, was the day to stop talking about it,

and take action.

The apologists? - fuck them. Every one of them.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:59 PM

8. They always do, though. Guns >>>> People.

I know gun owners who tell me all the time that if someone breaches their property, they're dead. It's not about defending themselves. It's about defending STUFF. Sadly, there are people who care more about things than people and who defend a gun as if it were some innocent victim - a sentient being. It's something they stroke and coddle, all the while turning a blind eye to the blood and destruction their little precious is capable of. Jesus.

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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:07 PM

15. I don't even think it is about defending their stuff. It's about proving they're still the king

of the playground. It's compensation.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:02 PM

10. Amen. And don't you dare apologize. What you are saying is simple common sense.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:02 PM

13. "which as far as we know weren't even locked up".....

The shooter was 24 years old. Maybe they were locked up and he knew the code or had a fucking key.

Safes are to keep guns from children and thief's. Not adults in the house.

And in your mind there are either normal people or gun-nuts. No one in between. How progressive of you!!

I assume a Democratic gun owner who hates the GOP and NRA but owns guns falls in your "Gun apologists" group?

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Response to Logical (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:06 PM

14. 20. He was miss-identified as his 24-year-old brother.

Safes are to keep guns from children and thief's. Not adults in the house.

No, they're quite effective against adults. Unless you're stupid with the key or combination.

I assume a Democratic gun owner who hates the GOP and NRA but owns guns falls in your "Gun apologists" group?

They do when they pretend there's no way to keep guns stored safely.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:12 PM

18. What if the mother in this case secured the gun but the son knew the access code? The son was....

not 14? He was at least 20. Which is an adult.

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Response to Logical (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:37 PM

21. He still wasn't old enough to own a gun in CT.

That's 21.

And I find it very unlikely that she would have given the combination to a son she knew was mentally ill. Because requiring her to use a gun safe would have required her to consider her son getting a hold of her guns.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:11 PM

16. And I see a couple of the very creatures you describe have joined the conversation.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:12 PM

17. I welcome opinions from all sides of the gun debate any day of the week.

Reading opinions that differ from my own doesn't usually upset me very much.

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