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Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:32 PM

 

Mom had a 50 caliber Henry? (per CNN)

That's not a typical weapon someone looking for defense would buy. That's the type a kid might buy after watching a movie.

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Reply Mom had a 50 caliber Henry? (per CNN) (Original post)
Whovian Dec 2012 OP
sandyshoes17 Dec 2012 #1
JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #2
Posteritatis Dec 2012 #9
slackmaster Dec 2012 #3
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #11
alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #15
Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #4
slackmaster Dec 2012 #5
Posteritatis Dec 2012 #6
Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #8
Posteritatis Dec 2012 #10
OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #16
JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #24
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #7
Edweird Dec 2012 #12
Squinch Dec 2012 #27
FarCenter Dec 2012 #13
Edweird Dec 2012 #14
former-republican Dec 2012 #17
Posteritatis Dec 2012 #19
former-republican Dec 2012 #20
Posteritatis Dec 2012 #22
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #21
dionysus Dec 2012 #30
DevonRex Dec 2012 #31
dionysus Dec 2012 #32
DevonRex Dec 2012 #34
malaise Dec 2012 #18
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #23
Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #25
godai Dec 2012 #26
tularetom Dec 2012 #28
malaise Dec 2012 #29
bettyellen Dec 2012 #33

Response to Whovian (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:36 PM

1. They have been saying

she was an avid gun collector. She went to ranges and taught her sons to shoot.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:39 PM

2. That's an antique collector gun.

Don't let the fifty caliber fool you into thinking it's a modern killing machine.

Here's an old Henry Rifle owned by one of my favorite TV hostesses:

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:52 PM

9. Yeah, the caliber stops meaning quite as much once you're out of the twentieth century

A Brown Bess was, what, .75 caliber or so?

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:41 PM

3. That's a very expensive rifle that would be bought by a serious collector or target shooter

 

If it was an ORIGINAL Henry it would be worth a whole lot of money.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:53 PM

11. Wondering if it was a reproduction

Pretty common, many imported.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:05 PM

15. She was receiving $250,000 a year in alimony

So, wouldn't be surprised.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:47 PM

4. A Henry is an Old West era lever-action rifle.

They look like this:


To the best of my knowledge, neither the originals or modern replicas are chambered for any .50 caliber cartridges. The originals were chambered for .44 Henry rimfire, a rather weak round by modern standards. Most modern replicas are chambered for .44-40 Winchester or .45 Long Cole (pistol rounds).

It's kind of hard to know what most media outlets are actually talking about when they mention firearms. They tend to get technical things really wrong a lot.

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:48 PM

5. I have a Martini-Henry

 

Not at all the same thing, just a data point.

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:48 PM

6. Meh, looks just like an AK-47 to me!

*ducks and runs, giggling while dodging thrown objects*

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Response to Posteritatis (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:51 PM

8. Here's a handy chart for ID'ing guns:

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:52 PM

10. The car always cracks me up. (nt)

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:06 PM

16. Ha! First laugh I've had in a couple of days! Thanks! nt.

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:26 PM

24. Hahahaha

Funny because it's true that media personalities in general know little about firearms, but that doesn't stop them from talking about them. It's all about the image they want to impress upon viewers.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:50 PM

7. Or a collector

I would not mind a Henry for the wall. It is also fairly accurate, even today, for hunting. Hell, a Winchester, the next gun in the series, is a great hunting riffle.

She was a collector.

For the record, the only Henry I have ever seen have been reproductions that a friend of ours uses in civil war recreations.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:56 PM

12. She needed it to compensate for the size of her penis. Being a teacher, she knew that.

 

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Response to Edweird (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:40 PM

27. She wasn't a teacher.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:00 PM

13. Henry rifles were made in New Haven, CT.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:04 PM

14. You just can't handle the fact that a female teacher owned and enjoyed shooting guns

 

can you? Here's the real kicker: she's far from being the only one.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:07 PM

17. Yikes!!!!!!!!!!

 

What did she want to do " shoot down helicopters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to former-republican (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:20 PM

19. Not that likely with a mid-nineteenth-century rifle. (nt)

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Response to Posteritatis (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:21 PM

20. Stop using logic

 

We are talking guns here.

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Response to former-republican (Reply #20)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:24 PM

22. D'oh. Sorry.

Ahem.

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Response to former-republican (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:24 PM

21. There were no helicopters in the civil war

This is a civil war riffle. The 50 caliber is the caliber not the actual power. The Henry had good penetration for the age, it was the first lever action, why the Rebs used to joke, you could load it on Monday and shoot it all week but was a northern weapon used by mounted formations capable of rapid fire when compared to the muzzle loaders of the Confederacy.

The photo of Rachel using it is the actual gun. These days it make a fine hunting riffle.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #21)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:49 PM

30. a riffle is a rocky shoal or sandbar lying just below the surface of a waterway. are you talking

about a rifle perchance?

sweet jesus if you want to be taken seriously about firearms spell "rifle" correctly, please...

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Response to dionysus (Reply #30)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:58 PM

31. oh my

I thought ripple at first glance. Kept trying to figure out what a civil war ripple was. Ice cream? A drink? The ripples of violence still rippling? Lo and behold it was a rifle all along.

Hey I'm on my nexus 7! So cool.

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Response to DevonRex (Reply #31)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:05 PM

32. the rebels used to lure the union soldiers down to the killing riffles. while their horses

were trapped in the deadly riffle, they were cut to ribbons with cannon fire.

does the nexus have an app for the cruise missile console?

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Response to dionysus (Reply #32)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 08:36 PM

34. I control the universe

with my Nexus 7.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:08 PM

18. Apparently the mom also took her kids to the range

Ah well

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Response to malaise (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:28 PM

23. If you have guns at home and children, old enough, like

Eight or above, it's a good idea to take them to the range and teach them gun safety and what to do around them...Adam was a broken young man, but I will not fault mom for familiarizing them with guns.

That in fact, is a recommendation from even my local PD, to have gun locks, but teach gun familiarization and safety to mature children. It takes, most of the time, the aura of mystery away and prevents accidents. Tom was a cop, if we had kids, of eight to ten, we'd be going to the range regularly and they would become very familiar with those guns.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:28 PM

25. Collected guns and taught her sons how to kill... you really do reap what you sow. nt

 

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #25)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:39 PM

26. Sad but true.n/t

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:45 PM

28. I'm pretty sure the original Henry rifles were not produced in .50 caliber

I have two antique .50 caliber rifles but they are muzzle loaders and not cartridge guns. Consequently they would be next to worthless as a home defense firearm.

As far as I know, the original Henry's were rimfire .44 caliber.

They were superseded by the 1866 Winchester (known as Yellowboy because of its brass frame). The Henry's front loading magazine proved difficult to use under combat conditions so it did not see wide use during the Civil War. Nevertheless it was the model for a long line of Winchester and Marlin lever guns including the famous Winchester 94, which only stopped production a few years ago.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:46 PM

29. What if he killed her to get to her weapons?

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Response to malaise (Reply #29)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:49 PM

33. it would seem that way, since he first tried to purchase one.

maybe they were all locked up away except for one she left handy.

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