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Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:10 AM

Gun sanity: "It won't work because..." <---This is BULLSHIT

It won't work because...

"There are already 3 million legally owned guns in America. You gonna round 'em up and take 'em away from law-abiding citizens, Nazi?"

"Spoons don't make you fat blah-blah-blah..."

"The Constitution blah-blah-blah..."

I'm having a really, really hard time not writing something to the effect of "go fuck yourselves and the spavined, diseased nags you rode in on," but that would not be productive.

In no particular order:

So fucking what if there are already a buttload of legal firearms owned by law-abiding citizens. Does that mean we should just give up and not even TRY to stem the tide of proliferation?

The Constitutional arguments can go on an on. The reality is that rights to do things are infringed, abridged, and denied ALL THE FUCKING TIME in the name of public safety. You don't have the right to drive a car unlicensed. You don't have the right to "pursue happiness" in a whole lot of ways that might harm your neighbor. States don't necessarily have blanket regulatory and legislative powers in the absence of a specific Constitutional mandate or prohibition. We interpret the Constitution based on the needs of our society, that's its function. Keeping weapons that were appropriate for an 18th-Century militia that might be called up, regulated, and required by legally constituted authority is not the same as GUNZ GUNZ GUNZ, everywhere, anywhere, for everyone, WHOOOPEEEE!!!!

"Spoons don't make you fat."

Oh.

Fucking.

Please.

Bite me. Just bite me.

Yeah, if you're determined to harm someone, you can do it with just about anything from bare hands to a piece of wire to a molotov cocktail, and no, we can't outlaw that shit. But we're not talking about "harming someONE." We're talking about highly-effective engines of mass slaughter. The point here is not that 99.99 percent of law-abiding gun owners would never dream of committing mass slaughter.

The point is that when you have highly-effective engines of mass slaughter readily available, the people who DO dream of committing mass slaughter have the means of doing it with relative ease. In order to "protect the rights" of (I'm trying to be nice, here...) a minority of legal gun owners who have a REALLY FUCKING WEIRD OBSESSION with being able to obtain GUNZ, GUNZ, and MOAR GUNZ easily and to keep those guns any fucking place they want for any fucking reason at any fucking time, we have decided that it's okay to take the risk that any sick, criminal, confused, angry, drunk asshole who wants to show the world something apocalyptic has the means to do just that.

Well, that might have been a low-risk equation at some point, but now? It's been abundantly demonstrated that there are PLENTY of sick fucks who will, indeed, avail themselves of those readily-available engines of mass slaughter to-- SURPRISE! --commit mass slaughter!

There are more gun dealerships in America than there are grocery stores.

Think about that.

The manufacture, marketing, and sales of guns are less regulated than just about any potentially hazardous product that can be purchased by the average consumer, including children's pajamas.

Think about that, too.

Would it really, really, be such a horrible thing if there were controls on who can deal in guns, and on how and to whom such sales could be made? If gun owners were required to be licensed to own guns, and if each gun sold had to be sold to a licensed individual who was then legally liable to ensure that said gun was used only by themselves, for legal purposes, and that license was required to be inspected and renewed occasionally, and the legally owned firearms were also required to be inspected occasionally?

Would that be the fucking end of the world? Would that really, really result in the death of democracy and the grinding iron heel of authoritarian dictatorship crushing the life out of our communities, families, and recreational pursuits?

Would that be worse than burying children killed because we think it's more important to have efficient engines of mass slaughter freely available to just about any sick asshole who has something to prove?

Would it?

Would it REALLY?

It's long past time for gun sanity. It's long past time to begin reining in the proliferation. It's long past time to stop listening to NRA bullshit.

LONG past time.

Demanding sanity --regulations, requirements, controls, licensing, etc.-- is NOT unreasonable. It is NOT the thin end of the wedge of Pol Pot implementing killing fields in Nebraska. It's a reasonable, intelligent way to reduce the very real and tragically demonstrated risk that efficient engines of mass slaughter will be used to commit mass slaughter.

So let's cut the bullshit.

Let's have some sanity.

And I apologize for all the f-bombs, but sometimes they're the only safety valve available.

beseechingly,
Bright

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Reply Gun sanity: "It won't work because..." <---This is BULLSHIT (Original post)
TygrBright Dec 2012 OP
MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #1
ben_thayer Dec 2012 #2
tk2kewl Dec 2012 #14
Scootaloo Dec 2012 #3
Skittles Dec 2012 #4
doc03 Dec 2012 #5
TygrBright Dec 2012 #7
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #6
sheshe2 Dec 2012 #8
stonecutter357 Dec 2012 #9
Whovian Dec 2012 #10
SamKnause Dec 2012 #11
HawkeyeLibkid Dec 2012 #12
JohLast Dec 2012 #20
Major Nikon Dec 2012 #13
etherealtruth Dec 2012 #15
Doodler71 Dec 2012 #16
eallen Dec 2012 #17
TygrBright Dec 2012 #18
AdHocSolver Dec 2012 #19
Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #21
cynatnite Dec 2012 #22

Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:16 AM

1. K&R for a seriously fucking great post!

 

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:22 AM

2. Can I get a FUCKING AMEN?!

nt

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Response to ben_thayer (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:33 PM

14. amen

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:22 AM

3. K&R; gun proliferation is a problem, but "gun culture" and the cultists that revere it are the cause

n/t

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:22 AM

4. it's the NRA talking

I love it when they claim to be cops who say NOTHING WILL WORK!!!

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:23 AM

5. I can't buy a switch blade knife but I can go out and buy a

semi-auto pistol or an AR-15 with a 30 round magazine. We don't have a knife lobby in Washington I guess.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:53 AM

7. If the potential profit offered by knives matched guns, we'd have a knife lobby.

Look at who funds the NRA, and to what tune.

grimly,
Bright

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:25 AM

6. I offer this regarding the second amendment (and it's history)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021986720

Second amendment "fans" starting with the NRA are way selective.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:49 AM

8. K&R TygrBright

K&R!

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:52 AM

9. K&R

SGA must Strike!

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:54 AM

10. Well said!

 

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:06 AM

11. Guns

There are 300 million guns in America !!!!

There are 1 million people in Florida alone that have concealed weapons permits.

300 million guns for a population of 315 million.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:09 AM

12. For real

How come the mythical NRA concealed-carry heat-packing hero is never where the maniac with the legal assault rifle is?

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Response to HawkeyeLibkid (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:52 AM

20. Why,

 

maybe because the concealed carrying person followed the law and did not bring his/her gun into areas where it is illegal to have it, such as schools, hospitals and malls.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:11 AM

13. The argument about there being too many already is childishly simple to refute

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:42 PM

15. I feel your rage

The gun and NRA worshippers are beyond disgusting.

I think I will "spam" the gungasm posters with the following:

"The contrast here is not only between the civility of the children and the cruelty of the shooter, but between what was asked of them at this moment and how little the public and elected officials ask of themselves when it comes to doing s...omething about gun violence. ... How do we find ourselves asking kindergarteners to be more courageous in the face of a gunman than politicians are in the face of the gun lobby?"

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/12/the-newtown-shooting-kindergarteners-and-courage.html

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:05 PM

16. Yes x1000000 Yes!!

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:45 PM

17. Likely, not in my lifetime. For what it is worth....

Your estimate of 3 million legally owned guns in America is off by a couple of orders of magnitude. It's closer to three hundred million.

It's going to require a large cultural change. It won't happen quickly.



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Response to eallen (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:49 PM

18. The size of the task does not constitute a reason not to start the task. nt

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:27 AM

19. Promoting fear and violence maintains the power and profits of the one percent over the 99 percent.

Arming fearful and violent people who are quite willing to commit terrorist acts, such as shooting up schools, is much easier and more profitable in controlling a population (the 99 percent) than trying to maintain an obvious police state.

Busting unions that present a countervailing force to the corporations controlled by the one percent is a form of violence.

Denying affordable health care to millions of Americans is a form of violence.

Denying women the ability to control their own health care is a form of violence, as is a "concept" of "legitimate rape".

Something to consider: Why did the U.S. spend hundreds of billions of dollars on a war in Iraq to get their oil when the U.S. could have bought the same oil for one-tenth the amount of money without all of the destruction?

Promoting fear and violence is a tool of the one percent to maintain power in its war on the 99 percent. Keep the 99 percent fearful and fighting one another and the power remains with a united one percent.

One has to understand the big picture.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:54 AM

21. To me the valor is in fighting a difficult fight. We MUST keep fighting.

 

The deplorable NRA, GOP, and death merchant gun companies.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:56 AM

22. If it were possible to rec this at least a thousand times, I would. Thank you for saying it! n/t

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