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PennsylvaniaMatt

(966 posts)
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:30 PM Dec 2012

Michael Savage: "People Are Going To Call Me A Liberal, But Enough Is Enough"

He actually made a very good point in saying that we have many forms of gun control, in the form of the Gun Control Act of 1968, which prohibits many different people from owning firearms, but not people who are on anti-depressants.

He also went on to say that "Why did a woman who has a mentally unstable son have several different guns in the house?" and "Conservatives are the ones politicizing the issue by telling liberals not to politicize it"

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Michael Savage: "People Are Going To Call Me A Liberal, But Enough Is Enough" (Original Post) PennsylvaniaMatt Dec 2012 OP
SUn shines on a dogs butt from time to time. Hopefully, this was the final straw. morningfog Dec 2012 #1
Pigs fly. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2012 #2
And broken clocks are correct twice a day. And I'm sure there's a room in Hell that's a deep freeze. calimary Dec 2012 #34
OMG!!! He's having an unpsychotic episode! n/t backscatter712 Dec 2012 #3
lol nt Tigress DEM Dec 2012 #5
Omg abelenkpe Dec 2012 #40
Broken clock Hayabusa Dec 2012 #4
if it's liberal to care more about the lives of children than the rights of cowards Skittles Dec 2012 #6
agreed ! nt steve2470 Dec 2012 #11
Isn`t that an interesting thought process? nt Sadiedog Dec 2012 #30
Savage has done too much damage for me to see anything this pig says as redeemable. Lint Head Dec 2012 #7
+1 AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #24
and no doubt he thinks himself quite virtuous for this. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2012 #49
I agree - after years of "vermin", "cockroaches", "scum", "rats", etc. flung our way . . . hatrack Dec 2012 #52
Well It is Pretty Impossible for even people like Savage and Limbaugh dballance Dec 2012 #8
LOL. Just went to his wikipedia page and it has been vandalized RZM Dec 2012 #9
.........more like embellished. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2012 #10
That got reverted 3 days ago... alp227 Dec 2012 #43
Not sure what that means RZM Dec 2012 #48
Anti-depressants? lbrtbell Dec 2012 #12
Speaking as someone who takes prozac LTR Dec 2012 #15
A coworker of mine who was taking prozac committed suicide. MH1 Dec 2012 #54
Antidepressants affect different people in different ways LTR Dec 2012 #56
WERE there ant-depressants in 1968? underpants Dec 2012 #16
People took Valium in 1969. I know someone who did. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #22
Not to split hairs, but Valium is an anti anxiety drug, not an anti-depressant Siwsan Dec 2012 #53
At that time, Valium was given for depression, at least in the case I am familiar with. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #57
Mother's Little Helper. nt Curmudgeoness Dec 2012 #23
Amitryptyline (Elavil) has been around since 1961. Frank Cannon Dec 2012 #45
I think the only real danger people on anti-depressants justiceischeap Dec 2012 #46
'Conservatives are the ones politicizing the issue by telling liberals not to politicize it.' Okay. freshwest Dec 2012 #13
This one line Lordquinton Dec 2012 #44
Holy shit...I think I saw a pig drifting past my second-story balcony! bullwinkle428 Dec 2012 #14
LOL underpants Dec 2012 #17
Me to nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #18
That might have been a Pink Floyd pig anneboleyn Dec 2012 #20
Mephistopheles: "Hell has indeed frozen over" (on twitter) anneboleyn Dec 2012 #19
Hell has indeed just frozen over Marrah_G Dec 2012 #21
Michael Savage Liberalagogo Dec 2012 #25
That makes sense - are you SURE NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #26
I agree with Michael Savage? A man I call America's least favorite Fascist? Nanjing to Seoul Dec 2012 #27
Link!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nt OhZone Dec 2012 #28
Not to deflect from the issue, but I agreed with something I heard from him last week ... about Flaxbee Dec 2012 #29
Yes, he is a big animal advocate... PennsylvaniaMatt Dec 2012 #38
His mother may have been a "Straw Buyer" ragulli Dec 2012 #31
Maybe you don't get out enough. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #33
Uhhh....the man changed his last name to "Savage"; tells you his general world-view. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #32
Yeah, the real problem is depression, not gun proliferation BainsBane Dec 2012 #35
Hate radio is part of the general climate of fear & mistrust in this country. I don't want to hear patrice Dec 2012 #36
Michael Weiner is a shithead SHRED Dec 2012 #37
No, Savage... defacto7 Dec 2012 #39
I listened to the first 2 segments of the Savage Nation tonight, since Mike Malloy was off tonight. alp227 Dec 2012 #41
Meanwhile Freepers are booing Savage: alp227 Dec 2012 #42
Here's a rule: _ed_ Dec 2012 #47
+1 PennsylvaniaMatt Dec 2012 #50
He should be proud NOLALady Dec 2012 #51
Whaaaaa???? librechik Dec 2012 #55

calimary

(80,700 posts)
34. And broken clocks are correct twice a day. And I'm sure there's a room in Hell that's a deep freeze.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:23 AM
Dec 2012

Maybe something's starting, though. Maybe we've reached some sort of critical mass? I'm actually kinda glad to see this. Just hope what's fired up at the moment - doesn't fade.

That's all too often what our side tends to do, though. Make some inroads. Then assume the problem's solved, and it's time to roll over and go back to sleep. UNFORTUNATELY, that's the moment when the opposition is up, and dressed, and out the door - hellbent on overturning or dismantling whatever gains we just made. While we have our nice nap...

Skittles

(152,967 posts)
6. if it's liberal to care more about the lives of children than the rights of cowards
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:40 PM
Dec 2012

then yes Michael I will call you a liberal

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
49. and no doubt he thinks himself quite virtuous for this.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:29 AM
Dec 2012

That means he will wave it around, much like anti-woman forced pregnancy fetishists think themselves compassionate.

He will intensify his other hatreds because he feels so impressed with himself.

Edit: I have to admit however, that I am surprised--amazed, actually--he sees and exposes this basic repuke game: Conservatives politicizing issues by demanding that Liberals who expose repuke lies stop politicizing.

hatrack

(59,446 posts)
52. I agree - after years of "vermin", "cockroaches", "scum", "rats", etc. flung our way . . .
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:46 AM
Dec 2012

Whatever, Mike.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
8. Well It is Pretty Impossible for even people like Savage and Limbaugh
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:42 PM
Dec 2012

to endorse executing kindergarteners. I'm glad they finally found a line they don't want to cross.

Still not sure where Coulter and Malkin will come down on the issue. I'm sure some how it will be Obama's fault.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
9. LOL. Just went to his wikipedia page and it has been vandalized
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:46 PM
Dec 2012
'Savage was born Michael Alan Weiner in the Bronx, New York, one of three children of Benjamin and Rae Weiner; he comes from Russian Jewish heritage. He described his childhood as difficult, as he is a total douche. His father, the owner of an antique shop, died of a heart attack at age 57, and his mother died in 2003.'


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Savage

lbrtbell

(2,389 posts)
12. Anti-depressants?
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:57 PM
Dec 2012

That would discriminate against everybody with fibromyalgia or other pain syndromes who depend on those meds to ease their pain.

I don't have a gun, nor do I want one. But I certainly resent the implication that people like me are a threat, simply because we take medications that take the edge off our constant pain.

I do, however, fully agree that the shooter's mother--knowing he was mentally unstable--had NO business keeping guns in the house.

LTR

(13,227 posts)
15. Speaking as someone who takes prozac
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:38 PM
Dec 2012

I have never once had the desire to go on a shooting rampage.

Easy to demonize people he knows nothing about. Though I feel Savage is in more dire need of medication than anyone.

MH1

(17,537 posts)
54. A coworker of mine who was taking prozac committed suicide.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:56 AM
Dec 2012

Different than going on a shooting rampage but indicative that your experience might not be the same as others'.

Anecdotal in either case and therefore not worth much as an argument.

LTR

(13,227 posts)
56. Antidepressants affect different people in different ways
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:08 PM
Dec 2012

I didn't say prozac is for everyone. There are many different options out there, ranging from medication to therapy to a mix of both. And any medication should be under the strict supervision of a medical professional.

That said, I was a bit hesitant about prozac at first, as I had heard horror stories. But it has been fixed over the years to avoid the nasty side effects. Again, it should be under supervision. My first dose was for two weeks.

All I can say is that I personally have benefitted from it, but everybody's different. And I can guarantee I won't go off on a violent rampage.

Siwsan

(26,178 posts)
53. Not to split hairs, but Valium is an anti anxiety drug, not an anti-depressant
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:53 AM
Dec 2012

It can also work as a muscle relaxer. Anti-depressants are usually a more intense sort of medication.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
45. Amitryptyline (Elavil) has been around since 1961.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:21 AM
Dec 2012

It's a tricyclic antidepressant that's still in use today.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
46. I think the only real danger people on anti-depressants
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:29 AM
Dec 2012

are is to themselves. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one though and extrapolate that he was oversimplifying the issue for his listeners...you know, so they'd understand.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
13. 'Conservatives are the ones politicizing the issue by telling liberals not to politicize it.' Okay.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:06 PM
Dec 2012

Otherwise, STHU, Michael the savage Weiner.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
44. This one line
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:36 AM
Dec 2012

could describe pretty much anything that's happened in the last 30 years, not to diminish the matter at hand, but it all plays into each other issue.

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
25. Michael Savage
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:53 PM
Dec 2012

is still a worthless piece of shit, no matter what he says. And note how he frames being called a liberal as something bad. FUCK YOU SAVAGE.

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
29. Not to deflect from the issue, but I agreed with something I heard from him last week ... about
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:02 AM
Dec 2012

poaching of elephants, rhinos, etc.

Turns out he's also very much an animal protection advocate. Who knew?

PennsylvaniaMatt

(966 posts)
38. Yes, he is a big animal advocate...
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:39 AM
Dec 2012

He also is very much into natural health practices, natural medicines, etc.

Every once in a while, I listen to him when he is not ranting about how President Obama is a communist and sometimes he has some interesting insight into non-political areas or life in general.

ragulli

(3 posts)
31. His mother may have been a "Straw Buyer"
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:20 AM
Dec 2012

I don't know of any kindergarten teacher that has an interest in this type of heavy duty gun arsenal. I think she purchased the guns for him.

BainsBane

(53,003 posts)
35. Yeah, the real problem is depression, not gun proliferation
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:33 AM
Dec 2012

Fuck that shit. There is always an excuse from those who support policies that lead to mass murder. Let's institutionalize discrimination against those with mental illness because the stigma isn't already great enough.

Most people with mental illness are not remotely violent. I myself am a long time sufferer from depression, own no guns or weapons, and have never struck anyone since a fight in the fifth grade. So fuck Michael Savage. The problem is not those of us who seek medical treatment for an illness; its the national insanity that pretends millions of guns have nothing to do with the purpose they were designed for: killing.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
36. Hate radio is part of the general climate of fear & mistrust in this country. I don't want to hear
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:33 AM
Dec 2012

about politics from Mike Savage. I'd rather hear about his proposals for Mental Health parity in all health insurance coverage, then I'll consider listening to whatever else he has to say on this topic.

I don't think we should be offering hate radio a platform here at DU.

alp227

(31,962 posts)
41. I listened to the first 2 segments of the Savage Nation tonight, since Mike Malloy was off tonight.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:24 AM
Dec 2012

If you're looking for a liberal talk show for the 9pm-midnight slot, check out Mike Malloy's show, stream at http://server2.whiterosesociety.org:8000/truthseeker or http://am950ktnf.com/

Malloy, who has an 8-year-old child, explained why he took tonight off:


I will not be on the air tonight. I can’t do it. I cannot sit behind a microphone and talk about yet another incomprehensible act of gun violence – this time against the complete innocence and vulnerability of children.

There are no words that can be said to provide any sort of comfort to the parents, grandparents, sisters and brothers of the children murdered in the sanctuary of a school classroom. The pain they will feel is beyond description – there is no way to express this sort of horror.

As for me . . . I am choking on the tears and anguish that other parents – those whose children were not murdered this bright Winter’s day – must be feeling.


I'll find audio of Savage's gun control commentary on YouTube over the weekend, since his fans upload the show on YouTube to make up for the lack of a formal podcast, and post at V&M.

In contrast, Savage's former timeslot competitor Mark Levin began accusing liberals of attacking liberty at first instinct after gun violence. Essentially a more eloquent, articulate version of "Obama's gunna take away awr gunz!" Until October, both Savage and Levin had shows in the 6-9pm ET timeframe, with different distributors. Now, both are syndicated by Cumulus Media, and Savage's show at 9pm ET is live after Levin.

alp227

(31,962 posts)
42. Meanwhile Freepers are booing Savage:
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:28 AM
Dec 2012
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2968887/posts

Tonight he’s snuggling right up to our Kenyan King at the globalist table and I’m bummed.

I think there is a pretty good chance that this and previous massacres may have been influenced if not “arranged” by various nefarious means in order to advance an agenda. The timing, right after re election and failure of the UN Small Arms treaty to disarm the American Peasantry is way too convenient for the regime to be a coincidence. Yet Savage refuses to even consider the possibility.

Has Savage been gotten to by the regime or is he just getting soft in his old age?

I took about 5 minutes of this leftist loving pap and shut him off.


After the shooting happened today I knew it would be a waste of time to listen to Savage tonight. He took the same stance during the Colorado shooting, blabbering on and on about restricting drum mags and blah blah blah. That is just one of those issues he is liberal about. He doesn’t seem to know much about firearms either which may be a big part of it. I’ll tune back in next week when he is done ranting about it.

librechik

(30,663 posts)
55. Whaaaaa????
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:56 AM
Dec 2012

this is more proof that the cons are just pushing bullshit, and they know what would help the country, but they're too hateful and political to drop their endless opposition. Kinda like after Nov 6 when suddenly cons were saying, oh well, what would it hurt to raise the tax rate a few points? after all their whining and screaming that it would kill the economy.

So they CAN drop the bullshit for a moment, under the right circumstances. Good to know.

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