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Mr.Bill
(24,228 posts)If you are responsible and keep them secured. If you have no intention of using them, remove some critical parts that will make them not function and store the parts in safe deposit box.
eppur_se_muova
(36,246 posts)jschurchin
(1,456 posts)Period.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I think, nothing should happen to you or your pistol and rifle.
Sorry to hear about the passing of your father.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,360 posts)former-republican
(2,163 posts)As to the handgun
Do you keep that as self defense handgun in your home?
You can acquire a small safe that is finger print recognizable for easy access.
Then have it bolted to the floor somewhere in the home.
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former-republican
(2,163 posts)problem solved if you think you have one.
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(24,360 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)can you think about the kids for a minute or is it all about you?
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former-republican
(2,163 posts)and one was passed on to you , either way then it's your responsibility to have them locked up and secured in your home.
I think keeping one in your dresser while you are not home and the other in a closet or where ever you keep it
is not being a responsible firearm owner
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)...is your question. Like you and your 2 guns really matter here.
You're not serious, are you?
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)If he wants to keep them, perhaps a gun safe would be a reasonable investment.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Why keep old junk you don't use? Since it has no value, & it would be hard to say a gun is a good reminder of someone's father.
have the guts to junk em.
lbrtbell
(2,389 posts)You're mocking someone's sentimental attachment to something that belonged to his father?
I think I'm going to puke....
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)but people can collect too much junk. These things are not useful to the OP, nor to anyone else.
I'm advising him to let go of them in a responsible way and stop clinging to them like some symbol of "safety."
It's exactly like when I gave away my deluxe hammock. I liked to look at it, but I never ever had the leisure time to lie in it. It was only a symbol of leisure. These guns he has are only a symbol of safety.
As for the sentimentality, he probably has better memory tokens.
lbrtbell
(2,389 posts)Would you be demanding that none of us be allowed to keep fertilizer in our garages?
Have you any idea of what terrifying explosives can be built with ordinary things like styrofoam? Or how they can be larded with nuts and bolts as a heaping helping of shrapnel? How naive are you, not knowing that the internet is filled with plans for weapons that would cause unimaginable carnage?
Can you think about reality for a minute, or is it all about your personal fear of guns?
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)The guy has a couple of junker guns he has no use for. Just like junker cars, time to let em go....
And he needs to let go of the idea that guns will keep him safe.
Don't worry, y'all who need em for "protection" get to keep your guns no matter how many kids are mowed down. You know that's not going to change, so quit being so defensive.
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marions ghost
(19,841 posts)I know people who keep old guns around because it makes them feel safer. What other reason is there for it? They're just so much trash if they are locked away forever.
Just be free of em. Get rid of them in a responsible way so you will never have to worry about them being misused.
reACTIONary
(5,766 posts)... as pleasing aesthetic objects and as historical relics. Just like old cars that no longer run, or aren't driven so much as displayed and coveted.
Guns also have value as a socially expressive possession that identifies and creates a cohesive group of like-minded people.
reACTIONary
(5,766 posts)...and fertilizer is now chemically "tagged" so its source can be traced after an explosion. These are reasonable and practical measures that HAVE been taken in response to violent acts, and it is even EASIER to take such measures in the case of guns.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Anyone who has read my posts knows I'm anti-gun. And I hate that stupid phrase about guns and killing.
However, I have learned a great deal lately, regarding emotional trauma, and I am absolutely positive that guns are not the problem. Emotional health IS.
I do not want to make the mistake of focusing on the wrong thing. Talking about guns is the wrong thing.
Having said that, until we have a society of well, conscious, people, guns in the wrong hands can be a big issue.
However, the problem is also that our notion of mental health is about as advanced as our notion of physical health. As in, Dark Ages.
What we have to do right now is begin a new context withing which to discuss what comprises mental health.
I said it in another thread- All of this comes from mistreatment of children.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)lbrtbell
(2,389 posts)Somebody gets it.
I've felt so alone up to this point. Thank you for having the good sense to see the real problem at work in all these horrible crimes.
REP
(21,691 posts)I'm not sure I agree entirely about it all stemming from the mistreatment of children; that can very well be a big part of it, but I think mental illness is an illness, like diabetes or Crohn's or any other inheritable, genetically-linked disease and like those, they can be maintained and controlled with a combination of medicine and behavior modification (such as CBT).
I can't agree enough that mental illness is not treated well or often enough for too many, and there is still too much stigma attached to having a mental illness - an illness one did not bring upon oneself or cause to happen, but then again, some are quick to shame those with certain physical diseases as well.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Why is it either/or?
donco
(1,548 posts)inherited weapons as well,including a Winchester 25/20 that they no longer make ammo for that my grandfather had.Collectors item.if i found ammo for it i believe that it would blow up in my face if i tried to fire it.
Jonny
(25 posts)Something should definitely happen.
I am not sure what, and this is a difficult problem.
Since you have done nothing wrong, the effect on you should be minimal.
If not already done, you should be required to register these weapons with some authority, and demonstrate what safety precautions you have in place, and your intended use for these weapons. Since one of them is an assault rifle ( I think ), it could possible be handed over to authorities.
What's more important is what should be done about all future purchases of weapons.
Since so many weapons are already out in the hands of people who should not have them, it will take a long long time to get effective gun control working. But the time lag is no excuse to not start working on the problem right away.
This is a good discussion to have. Thanks for starting it.
REP
(21,691 posts)Assault rifles are select fire (full auto or semi auto); his is semi-auto only. The assault versions of that rifle is either the M2 or M3 Carbine, and it is illegal to own one without a special permit.
banned from Kos
(4,017 posts)By force of law against your will.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)JanMichael
(24,872 posts)to a club because we like them so much.
I think people are fools to send money to those clowns. They don't do a damned thing for you. *I edited this sentence because it implied you were a member of the NRA; I meant the "collective you," but it did not read that way.
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)but if it were necessary to rid myself of them for the common good, so be it.
reACTIONary
(5,766 posts)... would take against you and your guns?
I would say that the first steps in creating stronger and more reasonable gun control laws would involve restricting the range of new weapons that could be manufactured and sold and make it harder and less attractive to buy, sell and carry guns. So, I wouldn't foresee stricter gun control affecting you for quite some time.
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ileus
(15,396 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)to have stronger containment for them than your drawer and living room. A locking gun cabinet would be a good option. Even police departments lock their guns up, why should a citizen not have to do the same?
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)If they break in...well, I need to get the gun out, anyway.
Those gun cabinets don't help anything and are expensive. My brother's gun collection, among other things, was stolen while he was away. He had expensive guns in a safe that sits on teh floor. They took the whole safe! Then he had rifles in a gun cabinet. I guess the key wasn't hidden well enough. Plus...most gun cabinets have glass, I think. Maybe the rifles are locked into their positions inside the cabinet. I don't knkow.
SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)However should you decide to sell, whoever is the next owner should be required to register them.
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)If you're keeping your father's revolver as a keepsake of him, I suppose it's condition doesn't matter.
If you intend on ever using them though, you may want to have them looked at (assuming you haven't cleaned them in 10 years.) A dirty gun is dangerous, and could fail in unexpected ways.
Warpy
(111,122 posts)Then one hopes you sell them, hock them, or whatever.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)But...if it were up to me, you wouldn't be able to buy that rifle legally, now. That would be considered an assault rifle, wouldn't it? Its purpose is to kill people, not for hunting or skeet shooting. But for rifles inherited or previously bought, what you own is what you own.
I have a 38 revolver, myself, for protection.
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Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)A bit of overkill for a rabbit, I should think. (pun intended)
REP
(21,691 posts)The M1 is semi-auto only and is not considered an assault rifle.
renie408
(9,854 posts)Being a bit of a drama queen, aren't we??
I agree with whoever said you should be required to register the guns. And I might throw in the requirement to show proof of having attended a gun safety course.
I think your access to large amounts of ammunition should be limited and your name and registration as a gun owner should be noted in a national data base that can be cross checked with mental health records.
But you can keep your guns, if you want them.
randome
(34,845 posts)then file off the trigger mechanism or plug the barrels up with cement. Anything to prevent some crazy nutbag like the guy in Connecticut from stealing your guns and killing someone.
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Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)You should be aware, though, that your .30 cal carbine can be classified as an "assault weapon" just for the mere fact that it can hold a high capacity magazine.
I have several weapons myself, and so does my son. We have them for 3 reasons: #1- For hunting. We don't shoot anything we don't plan on eating, unless we happen to come upon the occasional copperhead. We limit ourselves to one deer each, and the meat really helps save on grocery bills. #2- We enjoy target shooting on our property, which is 15 acres out in the sticks. We use our .22s or pellet rifles because the ammo is very inexpensive, and it gives us plenty of quality time together. #3- Protection... I live way out in the sticks, in the 4th smallest County in our State. Our whole County is 7 miles wide and about 35 miles long. At any given time, we have 3 sheriffs deputies on patrol. Response time can be anywhere from 20 minutes to over an hour. We have been told by the sheriff, point blank, that we are "basically on your own. You do what you HAVE TO DO to keep yourselves safe until we arrive".
One of my rifles is also classified as an "assault weapon"... but it truly *IS* one. It's a 1958 Romanian Military Issue SKS. I've modified the stock by taking the factory wooden one off and adding a TAPCO Composite stock, with a 20 round magazine. The other thing that makes it an "assault weapon" is that it still has bayonet on it:
What should happen to me and my son, and our weapons?
Ghost
A HERETIC I AM
(24,360 posts)"What should happen to me and my son, and our weapons?"
Not a god damned thing.
BainsBane
(53,012 posts)So no one can get at them, no nut job sons, nephews, or innocent little ones who might accidentally hurt themselves. Behind LOCK AND KEY, in a fucking safe. ANd if anyone accesses those guns to harm someone, you go to jail for a long time.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,360 posts)Deleting the OP. Night.