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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:37 PM

 

Do our Corporate masters, who institute policies and laws dismantling our social care system

Contribute to the lack of social conscience? The ability for some of us to disconnect from the humanity that serves us to care for and about each other?

And the increase in the number of these "leaders" that infiltrate our political system through revolving doors, only to reinforce the greed and focus on the accumulation of material as a lifestyle and desirable means to that end?

Massacre, torture, sickness to the point of devastation. Jesus people, what are we becoming?

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Reply Do our Corporate masters, who institute policies and laws dismantling our social care system (Original post)
cbrer Dec 2012 OP
dkf Dec 2012 #1
democrattotheend Dec 2012 #11
dkf Dec 2012 #13
Fumesucker Dec 2012 #14
Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #2
2naSalit Dec 2012 #3
KT2000 Dec 2012 #4
woo me with science Dec 2012 #9
madrchsod Dec 2012 #5
woo me with science Dec 2012 #6
libdem4life Dec 2012 #7
upi402 Dec 2012 #8
meow2u3 Dec 2012 #10
moondust Dec 2012 #12

Response to cbrer (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:44 PM

1. Our social care system disconnects us from each other.

 

Back in the day you knew you would take care of your elderly parents. Nowadays you expect the government to take care of them.

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Response to dkf (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:51 PM

11. What are you saying?

Are you saying we shouldn't have Social Security and Medicare, or that we shouldn't expect those things for our elderly parents who paid into the system their whole lives?

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:06 AM

13. I am saying we no longer take personal care of others because we expect the government to do it

 

That's not to say people aren't entitled to get back what they contributed but that creates distance between us.

Oh unemployment will take care of them...
They are entitled to food stamps...
They can get housing assistance...

Help nowadays is assistance to find a government program.

It is what it is.

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Response to dkf (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:10 AM

14. Food stamps were instituted as a result of the draft in WWII

So many of the young men were failing the induction physical due to malnutrition it was determined that something had to be done by the government to see that people got enough to eat.

I remember my father telling me a tale of his childhood, asking another boy if he could have the core to the apple the boy was eating, the answer was that there wasn't going to be a core to that apple.

Your entire thesis is bullshit.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:48 PM

2. Wow, are you on target!

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:58 PM

3. Something to consider...?

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:59 PM

4. corporate and right-wing

believe in throwing overboard all they deem not worthy. The wingers have taken that to heart and feel superior for that. Dehumanizing groups of people is an acceptable political postion now. But I have to wonder what does the world look like that they are fighting so hard to achieve.
Do they stop to think what alienated, armed to the teeth, "rejects" will contribute to a constructive society?
Theirs is a short-sighted, self-centered perspective.

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Response to KT2000 (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:34 PM

9. The dehumanizing occurs on both sides,

and it is deliberately stoked by the corporate one percent with propaganda. The most significant way that the one percent retain their power is by fomenting sheer hatred between the red and blue teams, so that we attack each other instead of joining together against what they are doing to all of us.

We are unable to achieve a united opposition to policies that are unconscionable, because the "team mentality" has become so extreme and sick and disconnected from political values that we will excuse what we deplored and recognized as wrong from the other side, just because it is our team doing it. How sick has the argumentation become, when the response by a predictable group here to news that a Democrat and a Republican have joined together to force greater disclosure on murderous drone strikes, is to viciously attack the attempt, for the mere reason that the Republican is involved?

How on earth will we EVER achieve the power and numbers necessary to stop what the corporate, neocon one percent is doing to this country and to all of us, if we keep letting them divide us to the point of absurdity...to the point that the hatred of the "other side" is so blind that we will abandon core values and principles of our party, just to defend our "side" and remain in opposition to theirs?

We need to reclaim our humanity and our political values and convictions in the face of the deliberate, hate-stoking propaganda. This political psychosis of shifting what we will tolerate and condone based on who is doing it needs to stop.


This insanity, this GARBAGE, this deliberate partisan political PSYCHOSIS has to stop.
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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:57 PM

5. yes.....

we are becoming those who disregard the dignity of others we disagree with. we fail to understand the people we hate are no different than ourselves.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:05 PM

6. Thank you.

We live in a very sick and propagandized society.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:11 PM

7. For all the wounded today, thank God for Obamacare, Social Security disability,

Medicare, and when necessary, the Social Safety Net. It doesn't all seem quite so liberal today.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:13 PM

8. Reagan facilitated the closing of mental health facilities

Putting mentally ill folks on the streets. Free to get guns and execute school kids and movie-goers, and ad fucking infinitum.

It was a pro-profit business policy decision - not a social policy program decision. Shit has happened.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:29 PM

10. Absolutely!

Corporate supremacy has everything to do with the gun violence epidemic in the streets. When you take away workers' rights, dismantle the social safety net, and pit Americans against Americans, coupled with impunity when a powerful individual, group of people, or entity commits crime after crime that would send you or me to prison for a long stretch, you're bound to end up with violent reactions by those who are or feel screwed over by the system.

Take away the social and economic inequality and double standards of justice and watch the social conscience become restored.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:59 PM

12. "Profits over people"

has led to massive inequality and a lot of stress and hardship for millions. Wall Street rewards corporate profits derived from downsizing and layoffs, offshoring and automation--leaving behind a hollowed out economy with fewer jobs and many paying less, massive unemployment, foreclosures, massive debt, social strife, and associated medical, psychological, and emotional problems of all kinds.

Yes, as more victims are created, those most responsible for that sick economy continue to try to dismantle the programs that provide some relief to their victims, calling them "welfare queens" and "moochers."

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