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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:09 PM

Wayne LaPierre should be forced to dig 26 graves with his bare fucking hands.

Then he should be compelled to explain to 20 sets of parents why his right to own as many guns as he can afford, including semi-automatic weapons, trumps their right to watch their kids grow up. After that, the fucking imbeciles at Fox and Friends must explain to those same grief-stricken parents that "now is not the time" to discuss rational gun control limitations because that would just be "politicizing a tragedy".

Fuck 'em, each and every damned one of them!

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:11 PM

1. +1,000

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:12 PM

2. Make that 27...

 

Any person with a sense of decency, upon hearing how his life's work caused the deaths of so MANY children would feel suicidal remorse.

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Response to a geek named Bob (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:17 PM

9. You have to have a soul for that

LaPierre sold his a long, long, time ago.

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:29 PM

18. then dumping him into hole 27 wouldn't be murder...

 

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:26 PM

93. agree

agree

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:13 PM

3. Agreed nt

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:13 PM

4. Plus one billion.

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Response to Zoeisright (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:13 PM

89. Plus ANOTHER one billion!!!

Their deaths lay at his feet. Anyone promoting and defending the wanton use and ownership of guns with NO restrictions - deserves that, too.

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Response to compintheusa (Reply #139)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:06 PM

141. We do not have enough gun control laws! The NRA is an evil group!

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:13 PM

5. Fuck them all with their god damned assault rifles

fuck you greedy self centered me only republican assholes for the shitty example you are setting. fuck you fox spews for spreading hatred. fuck you nra

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:14 PM

6. he should have to bury his own children after they die of gun violence

that would be suitable karma

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:08 PM

34. that's a really ugly thing to say

why wish his children ill? they are no less innocent than those who died today.

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:27 PM

40. Shame on you. That's a horrible thing to say. And it has nothing to do with karma.

Edit: I alerted on this horrific post only to find it was allowed to stand. Advocating the death of children.

I would appreciate knowing how the jury rationalized killing children.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #40)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:31 PM

45. I'm not ashamed. He's been making a living for over 30 years pushing

extreme positions.
So in my book, I attribute some percentage of the over 250,000 deaths by gun violence to him.
He's a mass murderer.
He will never change until it affects him personally.

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #45)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:33 PM

46. You are shameful. Advocating the killing of children to make him feel badly. Please self delete. nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #46)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:35 PM

49. he doesn't have small children

and I didn't advocate killing children.
I said that he should have to bury his children, not that someone should go and find his children and kill them.

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #49)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:39 PM

54. You imply that his children should be killed and he bury them. You shouldnt imply anyone be killed

here. Maybe you didnt mean that, maybe an edit would fix it.

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #49)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:35 PM

70. It sounded to me like you in fact DID

suggest his children sould be killed.

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #49)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:32 PM

98. So he should bury them alive?

Or do you just wish that they spontaneously die?

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #45)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:59 PM

63. He is a mass murderer, but I wonder if he'd change his tune if one of those children had been his

I doubt it. He's a blood sucking, money-hungry shithead. For him, money is more important than lives.

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:17 AM

120. Vile and unworthy of this forum.

This post violates the TOS.

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Response to mahina (Reply #120)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 08:55 AM

124. The Jury, and the overwhelming majority of DUers, seems to say otherwise.

 

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Response to Spryguy (Reply #124)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:42 PM

143. No so.


The reason for the alert was:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

You added the following comments:

What could be more over the top than suggesting this? Vile and unworthy of this forum.

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this post at Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:34 AM, and voted 3-3 to keep it.

Thank you.

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:24 AM

127. I hope you don't mean that...

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:54 AM

133. NO!

Whether one agrees with LaPierre or not, one should never ever wish anything like murder to befall his or anyone else's children. Shame on you for suggesting such a thing.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:14 PM

7. Fuck him and everything he has done.

And fuck all those who lap up his poison, as if it were candy.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:16 PM

8. It's never been about his rights to own guns

It's always been about the rights of gun makers to sell their tools of death to anyone who can come up with the money.

All LaPierre and the other slags at the NRA care about is the money they make as lobbyists for the gun makers!

And I agree with you about him digging each grave with his bare hands, but make sure it's in frozen ground!

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:28 PM

16. Right on the money!

And that is what it is all about, money.

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:13 PM

87. And that's why LaPierre and NRA sponsors regard today as a MARKETING OPPORTUNITY!

At the same time the Michigan GOP Legislative caucus passes obscenity after obscenity, one making concealed carry legal in schools (but don't light a fucking cigarette in the parking lot!), they actually 'respond' to this unspeakable tragedy by proposing that teachers carry guns!!! (One teacher owned four guns ... and look what her 20-year-old son did with them!!)

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Response to TahitiNut (Reply #87)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:47 AM

136. Right on!!!

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:19 PM

10. Damn right. And have those hugging their guns tonight help.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:28 AM

119. Hit the nail on the head! Those hugging their guns SHOULD be digging 26 graves by hand & be ashamed!

Never thought I would see that day that 20 little children would be murdered and it wouldn't matter one iota to any of these people holding so tightly to their precious guns. Why are people so attached to their damn guns??? I cannot fathom one reason why anyone who has seen the horrific scenes from today and those terrorized little kids and their parents, and not be willing to, at the very least, put stricter controls on who can own these guns and where they can buy them!

You can bet your ass that if it were one of their kids, or their nieces or nephews, they would then be the ones demanding stricter gun controls. Why is it that it always takes someone in one's own family to be hurt, killed, or contract a deadly or dibilitating disease before we do anything about it?? How many more children have to die??

Sorry about the rant!

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:22 PM

11. we should also be there to watch him.

it should be televised -- each bruising, painful scrape with his god forsaken hands.

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Response to xchrom (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:32 PM

20. +++++++++++++++++ n/t

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:22 PM

12. Fuck 'em with dried corncobs.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:23 PM

13. 27. He can bury himself alive in the last one. nt

 

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:30 PM

19. You read my mind.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:26 PM

14. he should be tried for murder 100,000 times over

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:27 PM

15. indeed

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:28 PM

17. But, guns are LaPierre's business; he's rich from promoting fear and gun fetishes.

Business is holy, getting rich anyway possible is holy, as long as the perp wears a suit and can hide behind a title.

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Response to Zookeeper (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:47 PM

95. That's right

if somebody can make $millions, then it's okay no matter who else gets hurt or killed... in a capitalist society, money is all that matters.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:39 PM

21. Wayne LaPierre don't care and either does most

GOPpers and insane conservatives because GAWD forgive you try and take their guns as well as their bibles.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:50 PM

58. Many people here at DU agree with Mr. LaPierre.

They are usually present in every thread after something like this happens spouting their pro-gun crap veiled as Constitutional rights.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:40 PM

22. k&r...

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:41 PM

23. I'd throw him in the first one he digs n/t

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Response to malaise (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:36 PM

51. I'd throw the pos in the last one he digs n/t

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:43 PM

24. Completely agree



He's probably having drinks with his buddies right now, caressing their guns and laughing it up.

Diseased piece of fucking scum....



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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:45 PM

25. In frozen ground, in the middle of winter, with no coat or shirt on!

Then he should be tarred and feathered!

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:52 PM

27. Him and everyone else who insists on keeping guns easily available.

Yep. Every last one. I don't care who they are. They own this collectively.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:52 PM

28. Every gun supporter is part of this.

There's no other way to add this up.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:04 PM

29. I agree. n/t

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:05 PM

30. +1000000000000000

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:06 PM

31. LaPierre is an asshole.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:07 PM

32. The FOX news staff should join him.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:07 PM

33. How many more will have to die before the gun nuts get serious

about some sort of reasonable process to regulate weapons.

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Response to japple (Reply #33)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:34 PM

48. There is no limit. Guns are more important that sex to them. nm

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:09 PM

35. Vietnam All Over Again

I was an Army Medic in Vietnam '69 and seeing children as young as this being murdered is even beyond what I care to comprehend. I saw a lot of children killed in Vietnam, but that was a war zone and expected. However, that doesn't excuse it for happening, but when I was checking out of Vietnam to catch a flight home on the Freedom Bird, Whole Baggage would not allow us to take an AK-47 with us as a souvenir because it was illegal and considered a weapon for combat use only. Get these combat weapons off the street - period. I've had enough!!!!!

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:11 PM

36. Knife-wielding man injures 22 children in China

 

And what are you going to cry when they take away the guns and the knifing starts?

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:17 PM

39. What would you do if there were no hypotheticals?

Nobody's going to take away guns; it's an NRA circle-jerk fantasy.

But requiring a psychological background check of those owning or wanting to own a gun might be something worth considering.

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:35 PM

50. The death toll will be significantly less-to-non-existent.

Welcome to DU, mass-murder apologist.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #50)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:01 PM

65. Can you believe it?

Or maybe the post was meant to show that a knife injures while guns murder. I dunno. Either way, it's a crazy post.

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:38 PM

53. I'm tired, and you're tiresome. Go away.

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:44 PM

57. Do you have a point?

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:52 PM

60. Guns are for chicken-$hits. They don't want to get close to their victims.

It takes someone really bold, crazy, or whatever to actually have to get that close to someone with a weapon. If the perp can see the faces of the people they think they want to slay, it's tougher.

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:08 PM

66. did all 22 die?

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:39 PM

74. Here's how you can tell you're a moron:

How many of those 22 died?

Zero.

Thanks for making our point that tight gun control saved 22 lives.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #74)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:54 AM

132. Probably saved hundreds of lives

imagine that fucker with a semi-automatic mowing down those kids. The gun whackos are too stupid to realize this undermines their own argument. Fucking idiots.

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:40 PM

75. Enjoy your stay

Burn in Hell.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #75)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:58 AM

137. Reading this thread

 

It must be the DU you seem to miss. Was it filled with fear and hatred? I don't think so.

“We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear — fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts, or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer.” Hunter S. Thompson “

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:42 PM

78. Hey, Dumbshit. Did you notice the difference in death tolls between the two attacks?

You've just made the OPPOSITE point of what you intended.

Do you see this boy? He is a victim of the knife attack. He is ALIVE. If he'd been hit by a bullet in Connecticut, he would be DEAD.

Wake the fuck up.

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #78)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:09 AM

118. may want to look at the total # of cases

There is a higher fatality rate with edged weapons than from handguns.

Regardless, I'm stunned by this all. Pure satanic savagery. My 12 year old daughter was pretty shook up about it when she got back from gymnastics.

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Response to RegexReader (Reply #118)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:57 AM

134. What an utter steaming pile of bullshit

Higher fatality my ASS. Post link. Bonus points if the link doesn't say something about distance from victim.

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Response to RegexReader (Reply #118)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:10 PM

145. I can see why this is true at least in civilian cases.

Although if you include those that were killed in war I'd highly doubt that. If you look at it world wide., most people cannot afford a gun. Or live in a country with strict gun control laws (most do). So of course the only weapon available is a knife.

The real question is how many more deaths there would have been if those knife murderers had had a gun instead.

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:44 PM

79. Pizza time troll

put these words together any way you can;


you're


fucking


gone


like


sewage

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:02 PM

83. How many died in the knife attack, asshole?

Go play with your gun.

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:06 PM

84. INJURED 22--how many DIED?

NONE.

P.S. You're bringing a spork to a knife-fight.

F@ck the NRA and the gun-fetishists.

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:11 PM

85. And the souless speak

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:24 PM

92. I can outrun a man with a knife... I can't outrun one with a gun


Fuck you, freeper.

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #92)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:54 PM

146. Can you? Good for you.

I'm a pretty damn serious bike racer (former Cat 1 Women...race in the "old gals" class now), and I could probably outrun most people over distance: I have pretty good endurance. But could I outsprint a young, fit male, the group most statistically likely to commit assault? Maybe...maybe not. Fit as I am, I'm still only 5'4" (not a long stride) and built for the long haul, not bursts of speed (110'bs). If he could catch me in the first 40 yards, my greater endurance is irrelevant.

Hell, someone like that wouldn't need a knife if he got hold of me...

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:56 PM

107. You are an ignorant a**hole.

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:34 PM

111. Hey, 1 post asshole

Fuck off, teabagger asshole

RL

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:44 PM

113. Thank God he didn't have a gun.

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Response to tattulip (Reply #36)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:32 AM

130. Please!

The key word in your post is "injures". Let me guess, your next post is going to be "guns don't kill people....." I'm so fucking tired of the same fucking excuses.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:12 PM

37. 20 kids Bravo 20 children

I just watched the President's speech and I have tears in my eyes. I am hope today with my daughter because she was running a fever. She has been watching Holiday movies while I cleaned and I only got this story late this afternoon. I don't know why I am posting because there are no words. 20 kids. That is my daughter's school.

whew I just can't imagine. I have empathy but I just can't imagine what those families are going through.

Every meal is a banquet and every day a parade. That's an old Army saying about getting out but days like this really make you appreciate every second you get to have with your kids and your family. Or that you just get. This one person's madness was a 1,000 miles away but it feels like it is right down the street. 20 kids. children. unbelieveable.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:13 PM

38. Bravo, Bravo!

Couldn't have said it better myself. If now isn't the time to talk about gun control... when is?

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Response to LeftNeckChick (Reply #38)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:28 PM

42. Agreed! Welcome to DU, and I hope you enjoy the site.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:28 PM

41. +1000 nt

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:29 PM

43. I agree

I have to be careful here. I already got slapped down today for my anger at the fact waiters. Wait for the facts before saying this was an act of an insane person who should not have had access to a weapon. I am sad for the families and kids. The teachers and all who went through this will suffer for years. Only the walking insane can excuse this with a "let's not talk about this today." Yes this very minute the debate should start on assault weapons and extended magazines I have used them and their potential for damage is horrendous. Pox news can be depended on to embarrass themselves. Let them keep talking. Maybe people will finally see the soulless nature of a lot of their on air personalities. I just hope sanity will finally win out in this country.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:29 PM

44. post the pictures of the children and tag every one with the NRA.

I think it's time for the NRA to go away.

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Response to juxtaposed (Reply #44)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:12 AM

135. THAT is a strong idea

I hope to see that sometime.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:34 PM

47. I agree. We have thousands of unemployed veterans

we should train one as security for each and every school and mall in the country.
You should have to have a background check and a license to own a gun.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:37 PM

52. Faux won't have time to fit this story in.




They're too busy stirring the Benghazi shitpot.





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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:39 PM

55. I normally don't like seeing or using profanity in posts here but today is different...

...I just checked the NRA website - the cocksuckers don't have a SINGLE WORD about what happened today!

I doubt that asshole would be able to dig those graves with his bare hands - they're too stained with children's blood.

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Response to George II (Reply #55)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:36 PM

71. Requesting that you consider an edit this post.

Cocksucker has long been used as a homophobic slur, and while a jury let this stand, I thought you should know that it is highly offensive to many people.

Thanks for your consideration.

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Response to cbayer (Reply #71)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:04 AM

115. Appreciate your request, and respect it, but.............

...that word has more than one "meaning" and reference - it's not a homphobic slur in this case. I hope you understand.

We're reeling out of control in this country with the obsession with guns, rationalizing with the sacred "Second Amendment" - and the scumbag NRA prostitutes that amendment and hides behind it with their blindness and selfishness.

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Response to George II (Reply #115)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:28 PM

147. Many disagree with you and I generally maintain that those who are offended

trump those that see nothing wrong with what they say.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1240&pid=186703

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Response to cbayer (Reply #147)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:41 PM

148. It is offensively homophobic ONLY if you want to read homophobia into it..........

...........instead of the obvious way that I used the word.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cocksucker

Seven main definitions with 12 sub-definitions. Not a single one referring to a gay man, just about every similar to the way I meant it.

If one is going to consider the sexual aspect of the word, I've known hundreds more women that performed that act than men.

PS - many did NOT find it offensive in the context in which it was written.

PPS - my gay brother didn't find my post homophobically offensive.

PPPS - isn't posting the result of a jury (with the details, 4-2 in my favor, by the way) a violation of the TOS of this site?

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Response to George II (Reply #148)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:59 PM

149. Whatever floats your boat. Stand your ground and make all the justifications you want.

And no, the posting of jury results is not a tos violation.

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Response to cbayer (Reply #149)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:25 PM

151. I'm not making "justifications" - I know what I posted and so do you, and it clearly was NOT...

....homophobic. If you choose to read it that way, unfortunately that's your problem, not mine.

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Response to George II (Reply #151)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:26 PM

152. No, sir. It is most definitely your problem. But I will leave it at that.

G'day.

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Response to George II (Reply #55)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:37 PM

72. duplicate post - sorry about that.

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Response to George II (Reply #55)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:41 PM

94. I saw nothing wrong with your comment...

CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT!!

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:43 PM

56. Hear, hear - n/t

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:52 PM

59. Read Dr. Albert Bandura's article on Moral Disengagement practices. I assert the practice is cause

Moral Disengagement has been on the map for discussion since 2002.

When are we going to have this conversation publicly? And build policy that requires tax revenue
to bring rehab into the picture and avoid French revolutionary tactics toward those who are in the in-group
by those thrown into an out-group by unemployment and injustices that cannot be resolved for human beings who act
individually for the masses and kill themselves in the process of statements they are trying to make from their graves
which includes victims of the perceived in-groups?

Must read to understand what is really happening in our country from the man who gave us the BOBO Doll experiement.
Dr. Albert Bandura from Stanford.

http://www.stanford.edu/~kcarmel/CC_BehavChange_Course/readings/Additional%20Resources/Bandura/bandura_moraldisengagement.pdf

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:55 PM

61. K & R - He's a piece of sh*t nt

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:57 PM

62. A-FUCKING-MEN!

If this isn't the tragedy that finally propels this gun-loving country to finally do something about guns, then I really don't know what will.

Twenty babies, all dead. Six adults, all dead.

Is it still going to be same shit, different day, much as it has become as it concerns gun violence and any kind of discussion about guns?

Will we cry and wring our hands, and feel bad for everyone concerned for a day, or a week, or a month -- as we did after Columbine, Virginia Tech, Batman, and whatever other mass shooting du jour over the past 20-some years -- or will we dare to go beyond the rhetoric and ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING??

Wayne LaPierre and the NRA may own most of Congress. But ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Will the United States finally get the message NOW?????

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:01 PM

64. I blame ALEC more. The NRA is just PR for glorifying a RW agenda.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #64)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:22 PM

91. About A.L.E.C.

That is a very good point you make about A.L.E.C. being equally to blame for this.

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Response to another_liberal (Reply #91)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:21 PM

97. Part of the reason for the national epidemic is their push in every state to liberalize gun laws.

So all of this is legal, until someone gets killed. And then the mantra is, 'that's just the way it is.'

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:20 PM

67. I would like him to explain how the tragedy might have been stopped if someone at the scene

had a gun.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:24 PM

68. Actually i heard where this is not the worst case of gun violence in the US so..

so I expect the NRA will give this time time to blow over and then it will be business as usual..and watch and see..bet you anything they will attack Obama saying he wants to make political points over taking gun rights away.. Best defense being a good offense

History says that is the way it will work out..bet you anything that nothing is done...but if 20 sons and daughters of congressmen were killed..well then it would be a different story.. but money rules and the NRA has it and the parents of these kids dont..

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:33 PM

69. He should have to help clean the bodies. He should be forced to read all their little papers

learning the alphabet, vocabulary words, Christmas lists for Santa . . .

Fuck the gun-humping NRA anti-sanity brigade that enabled this tragedy, and would happily let the carnage continue as long as they can keep playing with their bang-bang toys at will.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:37 PM

73. I Really Don't Think He Cares Much... Nor

do I think so many Congressmen/women have the cohones to address this issue EVEN NOW!

This is almost an every day happening and simply OUTRAGEOUS! WHEN WILL this country WAKE up. Probably only when it happens to them. And even then they may not "get it!"

Even though there could be a risk, I try to do my shopping on line. But there are so many places you can't avoid. Lock my doors and become a recluse, we are no longer safe!

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:41 PM

76. With The Help Of Ted Nugent.


Nice post, 11 Bravo. Thanks.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:42 PM

77. you know that all day the NRA has been in meetings on how to "manage this situation"

I can't but I know if you went to the NRA web site you would see all kinds of
shit about Freedom and Liberty but what about our 1st amendment right
to life and liberty?

BTW I would be in favor of a national movement to drop off shovels in front
of the NRA so they can go help and dig the graves.

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Response to Botany (Reply #77)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:18 PM

90. They're not commenting until all the facts are in.

What MORE facts do they need????

They need to own their part in creating this mindless gun culture that we have. No way around it.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:45 PM

80. Nothing like Hypocrites.

think George Carlin had this one in the bag. Protection in the womb... but ones your out. your fucked. Usually they want live babies to grow up to be dead soldiers. Seriously they support a party that is severely pro abortion as long as it's not in the USA

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:49 PM

81. Not only on Faux, alas,

as you well know.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:01 PM

82. K&R! MSE!!!!!

 

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:11 PM

86. K&R.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:13 PM

88. Our current laws . . .

Our current laws regarding gun ownership are far too slanted in favor of open access to the most powerful small arms known. We must tilt that slant much more in favor of the innocent victims. And we must not forget that you and I may be among the ones murdered next time an insane outcast easily gets his hands on all the guns and ammo he could ever wish for.

The American people can shut the NRA and its lobbyists down any time they finally choose to act.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:11 PM

96. Wayne is busy bathing in the blood of children.

He'll be happy to bury the latest child sacrifices when he's done soaking.

Thank you.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:40 PM

99. Wayne LaPierre and Grover are in the same boat....

They are a remnant of the past.

Or,...as they say,..."Sooooo last century."

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:49 PM

100. Thank you.

K&R to every DU member and to anyone within the sound of my voice.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:31 PM

101. Works for me.

Everything you said.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:48 PM

102. K&R

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:53 PM

103. If anyone knows where he lives, bring 18 shovels,

no make that 29, and lay them on his lawn.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:59 PM

104. I feel the same way sometimes. Is it really necessary for a handgun to shoot 33 rounds without going

empty?

There has to be a constitutionally viable and reasonable way to have laws that encourage more gun safety in our culture.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:09 PM

105. My mom says Wayne LaPierre would have a different view of guns...

if it'd been him instead of those innocent little children, on the receiving end of those bullets he defends so much.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:56 PM

106. I can think of a different response for WLP.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:01 PM

108. So no one has seen the "new" info?

 

That it was the 20 year old son with personality disorder and autism, under heavy medication?
And that there are metal detectorts and tons of security measures normally in place to prevent this type of tragedy, but none were in used because it was the mentally ill son?

CNN was reporting this as of 6PM, Eastern Time

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Response to dpgillam (Reply #108)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:50 PM

114. Did you see the news about his access to guns? His mother had knives, too, AND a car, but oddly, he

CHOSE TO USE HER GUNS.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #114)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:26 AM

128. This.

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Response to dpgillam (Reply #108)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 08:17 AM

123. Anything to defend the gun manufacturers, eh?

Why didn't the mentally ill shooter use a baseball bat or a club? Do you think the easy access to guns made a difference today?

Do you feel good about yourself regurgitating NRA talking points?

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:06 PM

109. My son wanted to go to the midnight showing of "The Hobbit" last night -

he's 16. His friends were going. My husband jokingly said "those midnight shows are lethal, dude". In actuality, snow was in the forecast and neither of us wanted to pick him up at 3AM.
We are on the West coast, so we got the news of these murders quite early.
When will we learn? What will it take? We seamlessly included mass murder into our argument last night.
We are so ashamed.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:32 PM

110. K&R n/t

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:40 PM

112. Amen

You worded this perfectly. It really says it all.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:13 AM

116. Wayne LaPierre

could benefit from a good beating. And the country would be better off after said beating.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:49 AM

117. Insert "Bloody" after "Fucking" In The Title And You Have Nailed It n/t

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:38 AM

121. K&R

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 07:57 AM

122. BRAVO

Notice the gun clutching crowd from DU gungeon land aren't responding in this thread.

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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #122)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 08:56 AM

125. Theyt need to just shut down the fucking Gungeon.m They have no place in our party!

 

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Response to Spryguy (Reply #125)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:09 AM

126. Yea

....but unfortunately, those that can make that happen are unlikely to do so. They think that any gun discussion has to be in gungeon land. I disagree.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:31 AM

129. where is wayne? he should be out there defending his organization.

i imagine he's laying low and staying out of the limelight.

probably sending out mailers for new prospective members.

fuck wayne.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:38 AM

131. That sorry bastard and the NRA has the blood of innocent children

on their filthy hands!

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Response to compintheusa (Reply #140)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:12 PM

142. Oh my...

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:41 PM

138. I agree.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:58 PM

144. Are we ready to tackle the NRA?

I'm a small hand gun owner. I did not purchase the weapon, it was a gift from my deceased father. He demanded proof on his home shooting range that I could shoot straight and true. He also knew that I had never owned a gun. I could not, would not hurt another living being; humans, deers, rabbits, squirrels, quails, or turkeys.

So why did he gift me with a weapon? I like to think it was because he knew me, heart and soul.

My father was a lifetime member of the NRA. He would be ashamed of what their lobbyists have become. Is there a political will to shut down these bat shit crazy libertarians who practice irresponsible ownership, and turn a blind eye to guarding against fire arms violence on our children?

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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #144)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:31 PM

156. Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team)

 

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:00 PM

150. + 1

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Response to Dalai_1 (Reply #150)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:28 PM

155. what's wayne's home adress

 

I'll get on f*xnews and mention it - then wayne can sweat a few days before he's put out to pasture

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Response to pepper.spray (Reply #155)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:03 AM

158. Don't let your mouth write the check your ass can't cash

 

"before he's put out to pasture"


You talk the talk.........do you walk the walk?

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:32 PM

153. What if liability insuranse was compulsory for every semi-automatic weapon with a license issued.

The license would also include an evaluation yearly along with liability on each weapon. It might not stop all the violence but might exclude some from keeping weapons.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:32 PM

157. Bravo! I love an emotional response.

For what it is. Well done.

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